there are some very terrifying and creepy facts about suspected killer Brian coburger in
the murders of the four Idaho students Brian was arrested on Friday December 30th there had been 19
000 tips up to that point he was charged with four counts of murder and also felony burglary
with the intent to kill Brian has an associate degree in Psychology from Northampton Community
College and it was noted that he was on the Dean's List he has a bachelor's and Master's
in criminal justice from DeSales University and he was pursuing a PhD in criminology at
Washington State University which is just under 10 miles away from where these students were living
he completed the entire first semester which was after the murders and reports are saying that he
was also a teacher's assistant for the University now before we get into these creepy facts the
murder weapon is yet to be located and also as most of you are aware a Hyundai Elantra a white
Hyundai Elantra has been confiscated and said to have been Brian's now let's get into it
number one his behavior was different after the murders it was said by a classmate that Brian
was actually more animated after and profilers actually warned of this and I talked about it
in previous videos it says after the murders he was more animated and More in better spirits or
good spirits in the classroom Brian was not known to be like this the classmate said Brian seemed
more upbeat and willing to carry a conversation this classmate said that Brian was typically
more quiet and had an intense demeanor and would make people around him feel uncomfortable this
is a common theme with Brian the classmate said he sort of creeped people out because he stared
and didn't talk much but when he did it was very intelligent and he needed everyone to know he was
smart he says we took classes together this past semester we didn't work on any project together
but we spent an extensive time together because our courses were very long he even said that
Brian was odd from the beginning but people just thought it was because he was awkward about the
murders the classmate says I am in complete shock over this murder because he continued to attend
classes and continued on like nothing had happened I still can't wrap my head around it he did attend
class up until the end of the semester and seemed more upbeat honestly when disgusting class Brian
did not mention or contribute to the conversation of the murders We Were released from class early
after the murders to get home when it was still light out and Brian was in those classes with us
I've heard I think uh it was on Nancy Grace that they were also talking about how this was a topic
of discussion these murders in class and that Brian didn't participate when typically he would
have something to say I did a live stream just a few days ago and I had talked and wondered I
said you know it I wouldn't be surprised if Brian actually was online and you know discussing this
with other people and from what I'm reading today that's that's what seems to be the case I have yet
to see the proof of of that but if you have some examples or you know where I can find that just
let me know please in the comments below or email me at it's a crime to shame gmail.com now another
interesting thing is I mentioned earlier in this video that he was a teacher's assistant well Brian
graded differently before the murders and then different after according to a student they said
that Brian avoided eye contact with them and said he also harshly graded them and left extensive
notes on their papers it was said that everybody complained about this yet after the murders he
seemed to chill out on the extreme grading and didn't leave notes on their papers at all he was
also described as quiet and awkward and on his own there were other odd behaviors in class he
was said to be overly intrigued by his studies in criminology and he would come off as combative and
off-putting one girl was having a discussion with him it was a heated discussion it was said and it
was about a criminology concept which is something that I'd love to know what that actually was he
was accused of mansplaining to the girl and she got so upset she left the class and left
her belongings in there as well and the other thing that I read today was that he had made
some remarks about you know anti-lgbtq stances now according to a neighbor in his building it
was said that Brian seemed like he never slept there were complaints this neighbor said Brian
was normally a very late night person going to the bathroom and vacuuming at 1 or 12 in the morning
this neighbor says I have kids so sometimes I thought of speaking to him or complaining but
never did it seemed like he never slept because he was always doing something all night which
is interesting if you're a student you'd think he would be you know going to bed I mean fairly early
I mean they are young but this guy is 28 he just turned 28 just a couple weeks after the murders
are not even just like not nine or ten days and another thing the neighbor said they thought it
was weird because usually in this housing unit that it's usually reserved for families they said
at first he moved in by himself and we thought his family would come later but he lived there alone
and they also made a remark that he doesn't look tough enough to be a killer but what does a killer
look like right other than the crazy black eyes that we see they said I don't know how he could
have killed people because he doesn't look that tough we are all PhD students here so it takes
a lot of hard work and smarts to get to this point you don't think someone like that could
do something like this the next creepy thing was that there was a survey done I did mention it in
my live stream but Brian had asked about research participation needed and there was some really
weird questions following this little statement he said hello my name is Brian and I'm inviting you
to participate in a research project that seeks to understand how emotion and psychological traits
influence decision making when committing a crime in particular this study seeks to understand the
story behind your most recent criminal offense with an emphasis on your thoughts and feelings
throughout your experience in the event that your most recent offense was not one that led to
a conviction you may still participate additional surveys are included after the open-ended section
as to best understand your unique traits the study should take about 15 to 20 minutes to
fully complete in this there was I believe eight questions he asked why did you choose that victim
or Target over others before making your move how did you approach the victim or Target please
detail what you were thinking and feeling and this is throughout his questions was please detail what
you were thinking and feeling after committing the crime what were you thinking and feeling
how was your life right before the crime occurred did you prepare for the crime before leaving your
home what was the first goal you made in order to accomplish your goal did you commit the crime
alone yes or no and if not how many people were involved and this is interesting because he had
asked it was said he was asked when he got arrested was anybody else arrested so that's
interesting I don't think that's out of fear in my opinion he says after arriving what steps did
you take prior to locating the victim or Target I.E person or object please detail your thoughts
and feelings how did you accomplish your goal and before leaving is there anything else you did how
did you leave the scene I am curious to know how many people actually participated in that survey
and what their answers were and how it's different from what he allegedly did now a criminal profiler
was actually talking about Brian and about the situation of the study and he says I suspect that
coburger was well aware of his dark nature and homicidal ideation and endeavored to discover more
about himself through his studies about the survey he says the questions in coburger's survey of
criminal offenders seemed focused on crowdsourcing the best ways to plan for and get away with crime
it certainly does I said this in my live stream as well that it almost feels like it's like how
to get away with murder right and this criminal profiler says this line of questioning hints
at an unsophisticated offender who was not confident in his own abilities and I guess in
my opinion the best way to do that is research I mean that's what they're known to do anyways
in school they're doing research and they're doing you know all these papers and stuff so hey
easiest way to find out I guess next Brian was said to have stalked the girls weeks leading up
there was reports of cell phone pings and it was said that Brian would be ending up the same area
as what Maddie and Kaylee and Zana and Ethan would be and it was said matched several times
to the locations this was said by somebody who was friends with one of the authorities who was
working the case there was a quote that said not sure if they ever interacted but his cell phone
pings followed their every move for weeks and I had an email which I'm very grateful for thank
you so much to those who has sent me emails I really appreciate it it's very very helpful
there were Instagram shots that I would received that showed Brian was following Zanna Kaylee and
Maddie and we don't know about Ethan because it was Private now the next interesting and creepy
thing was he had his car serviced and his dad came out to drive with him back now it's said
that Brian's dad flew out from Pennsylvania to go pick him up and then they drove their vehicle back
and they were pulled over twice it also said and I guess we'll wait to find out confirmation but
it was said that the dad actually had planned this long before that he would come out and then drive
with Brian back interesting his white Elantra from my understanding he never called that one in that
he drives it even though there was a lot of pleas for that we'll hear about that in court I'm sure
it says about the servicing of the vehicle the Father and Son apparently got the car serviced
on December 16th CNN reported but that shouldn't prevent the FBI from being able to find trace
evidence like hairs or fibers and blood stains which can be uncovered with and if they're looking
for the Hyundai Elantra and that was the car that was used in you know involved in the killings and
he went and allegedly went into the car and drove off he's gonna have some stuff in that vehicle so
can't wait to get the probable cause document can you let me know below next this was a red
flag from previous it was said that Brian would harass women at the bar staff included according
to a bar owner in Pennsylvania he said Brian would harass the female staff and other females at the
bar he'd often come into the bar alone and observe and watch and the staff said that he
would have two or three beer and then get a little uncomfortable around others the bar owner ended up
approaching him and saying hey you know hopefully this Behavior doesn't continue but Brian says you
know what are you talking about and denied his behavior and then never came back again but the
owner said I went up to him and said hey Brian welcome back we appreciate you coming back I just
wanted to talk to you real quick and make sure that you're going to be respectful this time and
we're not going to have any issues he said that that's when Brian was taken aback he said he was
shocked that I was saying that and he said I don't know what you're talking about you totally have me
confused he said that Brian had one beer and left and never came back to this Brewery it was also
said that Brian would ask the women who they were and where they lived now it was said that the bar
flagged Brian in their system this is where the staff could read notes about the patron once they
did you know their ID they said that the note said hey this guy makes creepy comments keep
an eye on him he'll have two or three beers and then just get a little too comfortable it was also
so that he made advances to one of the staff and called him a [ __ ] basically because she didn't
reciprocate what he wanted next he actually wore gloves after the murders and was wearing them for
quite some time he was seen at a grocery store obviously trying to avoid you know a trail of
evidence and the person who's reporting about this that he wore gloves said he's not stupid
and has been very careful but not too careful if he's caught so he was supposedly at a supermarket
and wearing these gloves would love to know where else he was wearing these next he actually studied
under a well-known forensic psychologist and she's also an author her name is Catherine
ramsland she's the author of how to catch a killer the mind of a murder the human Predator
historical Chronicle of Serial murder and forensic investigation and one of the courses that he took
that she taught was called a psychology of death investigations so very interesting Brian ented did
a tweet on this and said world-renowned forensic psychology professor and serial killer expert
Dr Catherine ramsland reportedly taught Brian coburger at DeSales University in Pennsylvania
she told me she can't make media statements about him at this time one of the students
in this criminology class said that Brian would often interrupt professor ramsland and said as
if he knew more about the subject matter than her and this Dr Catherine ramsland also also worked
on the BTK autobiography and there's a lot of chitter chatter around that and so it's going to
be interesting if there's some connections to both maybe he's studied this or got a thrill from it or
whatever stay tuned the daughter of the BTK killer said that she thinks that Brian's studies may have
led him to make contact with her father she said I have ongoing concerns knowing how common it is for
criminology students True Crime fans and others to correspond regularly with my father that co-burger
could have been in contact with my father at some point but require proof of this which currently I
do not know of she said I literally got physically ill knowing that there was now a connection back
to ramsland and she connects to my father it was just a lot obviously we know he studied my
father in criminology classes he probably studied him heavier since he had ramsland as a professor
but we need to find out if there's a deeper connection super interesting what do you think
let me know in the comments below now another professor at the DeSales University was talking
about Dr Catherine ramsland and said she's an absolute shock after hearing what her former
student has been accused of he's a brilliant student she says I'm shocked at what he's been
accused of I don't believe it but I get it then also another student said he had a particular
interest in crime scenes and serial killers she said at the time it seemed as if he was just a
curious student so if his questions felt odd we didn't think much of it because it fit our
curriculum now a boat has passed it was said that he was aggressive in high school there were people
who said he would become aggressive when referred to as overweight one person said his personality
changed as a teen becoming more violent and more confrontational one of the friends said that his
personality shifted dramatically and abruptly one summer going from an overweight and down to earth
High School junior to an aggressive senior who had become thinner than a rail he also said that
Brian took up boxing and was always looking for a fight he says he always wanted to fight somebody
who's bullying people we started cutting them off from our friend group because he was a hundred
percent a different person it was also mentioned that he had done heroin in high school there's a
little bit about that and then there was a running partner from 10 years ago and he said that they
were close around that 10 year ago Mark and they would go running and he said that they had many
many positive conversations he described Brian as being uplifting and often talked about wanting to
get in shape he said there was nothing really concerning about his behavior but he said I
would text him and be like hey you want to go for a run we'd go for six or seven five mile runs at
night so when I saw who it was I was just like in complete shock it was close to home now let's get
to the family and what they said Steve Gonzalez Kaylee's dad said we are in a path to Justice when
Steve first saw Brian's picture he said he saw a broken Soul pitiful human being he said the little
coward that had finally got caught running I still think everyone one's innocent until proven guilty
so I put that in the back of my mind that's kind of hard isn't it you have to think to yourself
yeah innocent until proven guilty but yet you have all these emotions because your baby girl is gone
and this guy allegedly was responsible and side note the chief is actually quite confident that
they have their guy Steve also said that no one in the family recognizes Brian but he said also that
they're starting to see connections between him and Kaylee that aren't ready to just be discussed
yet the family's attorney said now that there's a person in a name that someone can specifically
look for and see if there's any connections in any way so they're just trying to figure it out
Steve says this guy's gonna have to look me in the eyes multiple times and I'm going to be looking
for the truth that's really what I'm going to be looking for Kaylee's grandma said that the
family is relieved by this arrest she says this is what we wanted I also read a statement from
Ethan's family that said we are relieved this chapter is over because it provides a form of
closure however doesn't alter the outcome or alleviate the pain we miss Ethan and our family
is forever changed now according to reports Brian cannot afford a private attorney so there's one
appointed to him and the public defender says that he intends to waive his extradition hearing and
the public defender said he should be presumed innocent until proven otherwise not tried in the
court of public opinion Mr kohlberger is eager to be exonerated of these charges and looks forward
to resolving these matters as promptly as possible and reports are also saying that he's planning on
pleading not guilty and side note Idaho does have the death penalty so we'll see about that being on
the table and there were reports that his mother way back in 2008 made a statement about abortion
and also about the death penalty and said I pray we consider the children before the gun I do not
personally support abortion and by all means do not support the death penalty this is going to
be a little close to home State Sanctified murder is still just that Murder She said now there was a
statement from the University and that's from the Washington State University and they said they are
aggrieved by Brian's actions says the Department of Criminal Justice and criminology at Washington
State University is aggrieved by the alleged horrendous acts of one of its graduate students
we are relieved that Justice will be carried out our hearts are with the victim's family
it's also said that the department removed the list of graduate students from the website which