>> Speaker 1: Everybody I know, who I've talked to, wants this app.
The most painful thing, that I'm a bum and I'm homeless.
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[LAUGH] >> Speaker 1: Trees for cars.
This would change my life.
I can work at Google, I can work at SpaceX.
This is gonna change my life in a magnificent way.
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>> Speaker 1: When I first launched my app it was good, I was excited,
everybody was excited, the press was excited.
And it was just a great moment.
>> Speaker 2: Learning it is hard, very hard.
So imagine doing it while homeless.
>> Speaker 1: The highlights was going to NBC.
It was great. We got to stay in a nice
hotel in the Rockefeller Plaza.
We had the red carpet rolled out in front of us, so that was like the highlight.
But then I also got negative comments.
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>> Speaker 1: The number one question I was asked why you're still homeless?
How much money did you make?
And it's very hard to tell people that it's an eco app.
>> Speaker 2: How much did you make from the app?
>> Speaker 1: I made about $10-$15,000.
Not bad for a first app.
Wherever I go, random people congratulate me on the app.
They use it, they bought it, they thought it was a good idea.
But once again, it didn't make millions of dollars like WhatsApp.
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>> Speaker 1: We keep in contact still and
we plan to do things in the future.
He's coming back supposedly.
What I would have done differently?
I would have probably came up with
a better idea for an application,
for a mobile application that
can generate a ton of revenue.
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>> Speaker 2: It isn't my choice and it never really has been.
And so the whole donating it [INAUDIBLE] timeline [INAUDIBLE].
Cuz it's his anyway.
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>> Speaker 1: What's funny is I'm not an average homeless person.
I consider myself to be eco-friendly and
I think other people don't know what that means.
All confused by that.
Woah. Okay, is it me or did the wind just pick
up?
I haven't coded as much as I should be.
I have the books.
I got the laptop.
I got the office space.
I just haven't been able to get over there as of yet.
I still plan to, but I just haven't been able to get over there
recently.
>> Speaker 3: Why?
>> Speaker 1: Because life, things going on, have to do this, have to do that.
>> Speaker 2: Homelessness is not a feature of someone or a condition.
It is something that people put a lot of people
into in a lot of different situations, in one giant box.
And it's not what people think it is.
It's not what I think it was.
And it's not even a way to describe someone.
>> Speaker 4: Coding is the language of a new American dream.
>> Speaker 5: If you make money off of this
app- >> Speaker 1: Right.
>> Speaker 5: Are you gonna go get an apartment?
What are you gonna do?
>> Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
Trump [INAUDIBLE] Hotel [LAUGH].
>> Speaker 4: And then there is his infectious inner peace all
the money in Silicon Valley just can't buy.
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>> Speaker 1: I'm still living on the streets.
You're hot one minute
you're gone the next,
you know, so.
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