Alright, nerd squad, you asked for more Superhero Couples Who Went Too Far and we heard you.
Today we will be counting down a part 2 of this list.
So I guess this makes it the top 20 or I guess just my take on the top 10 since Sasha did
our part 1.
So you if you haven't watched our part 1 yet, get to it.
I have and I can tell you it is awesome and funny and shocking.
All the things you could ask for in a list of this kind.
There are many different ways superhero couples can take their relationships too far.
Some do it simply by having a relationship in the first place, being controversial in
origin alone.
Others are just not good for another and need to split up but try to keep the romance going
for reasons beyond us, but reasons that the writers try to give us, or sometimes don't.
Which honestly is worse.
And some just leave us imagining things that well, we'd just rather not.
Who are some of your least favourite couples in comics?
Ones that you feel are not well suited or just take things a little too far?
Let us know in the comments.
I feel like Sasha hit the nail on the head for me with Superman and Wonder Woman.
Not something I needed to see Wonder Woman do personally.
Alright, let's get counting.
10 Venom and Eddie Brock
I figured I would though you a bro-mance of sorts too on this list, with Eddie Brock and
his relationship with his symbiotic friend, Venom.
Though really the two of them together are truly Venom.
Aww, true love.
The thing that really makes these two pretty nuts together isn't even that one of them
is technically an alien entity, it is the codependency.
When we look at relationships objectively, you want to have a certain sense of self.
There should be you, your partner's self and the relationship, in a sense all separate
entities.
With symbiosis we don't get this.
Heck the two entities have even admitted their need and love of one another to feel that
they are complete.
And they have basically had two children together.
And if you think Eddie has no part in the reproduction of his symbiote, check out Venom
issues 164 and 165.
The symbiote needs Eddie and his sweet love chemicals to live and Eddie is pretty much
straight up addicted to Venom.
And while I know the two have been villainous together in the past, ultimately Venom is
at this point an anti-hero, with even his newest film introducing him as such, an unconventional
violent hero that just loves tater tots and chocolate.
While my partner and I also love tater tots and chocolate we DO NOT need one another to
literally survive.
9 Black Widow and the Hulk
For some reason the MCU felt like this was a good relationship to establish, giving Natasha
the kind of soothing effect on Bruce that his cousin, Jennifer Walters in the comic
is sometimes able to have.
With Natasha and Bruce having a similar connection comparable to Jen and Bruce's connection.
I mean, it's not Natasha and Bruce are incestous in any means as they're not related but the
implications that come out of the similarity of the relationships are.
People had also dubbed the pairing Hulktasha.
Mashing up Bruce's superhero persona of the green giant with just straight up plain Natasha
is wrong on so many levels in terms of what you then are lead to imagine and picture.
I'm not going to get explicit here but you know what I mean.
This relationship also seemingly came out of nowhere, it is not based on any comic book
lore.
As such the MCU had to justify it a bit.
Leading us to this scene between Bruce and Natasha talking about how they both feel like
monsters.
The most problematic thing is being a monster in this scene equals not being able to have
kids.
Highlighting not the fact that Natasha is a monster because she's an assassin but because
she is sterile.
This whole scene is just odd.
This whole relationship really is.
Like they sell it well but I don't know if we ever really needed it.
8 Mystique and Professor X
These two are presented in the X-Men prequel films as having a father-daughter relationship.
Which is hugely problematic if you are familiar with these two in the comics.
Professor X and Mystique have often been presented as foes and even sometimes allies or childhood
friends in the comics.
Mystique's origins actually are widely mysterious.
We know a lot about her but we don't know exactly how old she is or even all the things
she has done.
We do know however that she was married to Professor X and while under the guise of Moira
MacTaggert had his son.
I would be almost willing to accept this random happenstance of romance had it actually been
explained in the comics but it's not.
It's offhandedly referenced in Uncanny X-Men and Battle of Atom, where we meet Charles
Xavier 2, their son, but that's it.
If you don't believe me that these two took it too far, just think about the name of their
son, Charles Xavier 2, really?
So unimaginative.
Why even have them hook up?
What's the point?
Mystique has had many relationships over the years, including a strange one with Sabretooth.
But one of my favourites has been her long time relationship with fellow mutant, Destiny
who has the power to see future possibilities.
The more nearer the possibility the better her site.
I love them together.
7 Silk Spectre and Doctor Manhattan
Awwww but it's such a sweet relationship.
It really isn't.
In the comics Silk Spectre is just a teenager when she pursues a relationship with Doctor
Manhattan who is a grown man in his 30s and beyond that a god, much to the displeasure
of her mother.
The film adaptation simply had Carla Gugino, the actress who plays her, look a touch younger
with some makeup, making their initial attraction feel less creepy than it is.
Beyond the fact that Silk Spectre is a teenager, the two end up together for 20 years while
Doctor Manhattan continues to grow ever distant.
The fact that they stay together for that long blows my mind.
Manhattan was already very disconnected from humanity when he met Laurie.
I can't imagine what maintaining a relationship for that long with one another was like for
either of them.
6 Iron Man and Black Widow
Where to start with these two?
They are kind of a big deal in the Ultimate Universe.
The two hook up to the disapproval of Tony's butler Jarvis and rightly so.
But we'll get why in a moment.
A highlight from them taking things too far is the fact that they made a sex tape and
that it got out.
And that it was also in circulation after Tony was betrayed by Natasha who was apparently
using him this entire time to get her hands on tech, double crossing not just Tony but
the entirety of the USA when she revealed that she was actually still working as a Russian
spy.
She even shocks Tony who seems amazed but she just laughs it off, mocking him for not
suspecting the Russian spy to double cross him.
Obviously Jarvis was right not to trust her not just because of the betrayal but because
this betrayal also leads to his death.
That's right, Natasha kills Jarvis.
Cruel.
5 Supergirl and Comet
The stories we used to tell in comics.
Remember that time that Supergirl dated her horse?
Supergirl used to travel around with her horse Comet, who used to be a centaur until he wanted
to become a man and asked Circe for her help.
But Circe gave him a potion that transformed him into a horse instead.
He followed Supergirl back to Earth one day in horse form and communicated with her telepathically
while accompanying her on missions as her Superhorse.
Anyways, he ended up meeting a wizard who was able to grant him the power to transform
into a man whenever a comet passed over head.
I know, oddly specific.
Comet had always loved Supergirl and so once he had transformed into a man he used his
form as an opportunity to get closer to her.
The thing that really makes this couple weird and too much is that Comet decided to withhold
that he was Supergirl's horse, fearing she would reject him.
Instead he just smirks about it whenever he kisses her.
Teehee, so funny.
Goodness.
4 Arisia Rrab and Hal Jordan
Arisia was a young girl when she first met Hal Jordan.
She inherited her spot on the Green Lanterns Corps through her family, being the fifth
person from the family to join the Green Lanterns.
She initially meets Hal and develops a bit of a crush with Hal seeing Arisia like a little
sister.
Everything got really weird with her and Hal when she was reassigned with some fellow Green
Lanterns to earth and started crushing really hard on Hal.
She subconsciously uses her power ring to alter her age and claims that she now not
only looks like a grown woman but has the mind of a grown woman as well.
This somehow changes everything and although Hal originally has some hang ups about starting
a relationship with Arisia, he ultimately gives in to his desire for her.
While it seems like the writers decided after introducing Arisia that they just wanted her
to be an older character, instead of just writing her out and writing in an actual older
character, they made this relationship really weird.
One of the most disturbing things it is implied that the pair do have sex and none of the
other Green Lanterns seem to see anything wrong with their relationship.
Some of them actually encourage it to the point that it's creepy like when Guy spikes
everyone's drinks at New Years.
3 Ant-Man and the Wasp
The comic version of these two are far less sweet than their MCU counterparts.
Why this relationship really went as far as it did is beyond me.
The two fell in love while on a mission to avenge her father's death.
But the two were really not meant to be.
They had a strange relationship in the beginning with Janet almost be presented as younger
than she was.
This was not helped by the fact that Hank always seemed to be mentoring her, helping
her to develop as a hero and babying her sometimes or looking after her, making the relationship
seem like it was doomed from the beginning.
It all went sideways when Hank's mental health started to deteriorate.
He had never felt confident enough to propose to Janet, believing he wasn't worthy of her.
But after a few mental breaks, he had adopted the alternate personality of Yellowjacket,
a strong-willed and almost manic persona.
He broke into the Avenger mansion and kidnapped Janet and proposed to her.
To the surprise of all of the Avengers, but maybe not the readers, she said yes, having
been waiting forever for him to pop the question.
You know you're wedding is a bad idea when it shocks the rest of your teammates.
The two were married and although Janet felt remorse for taking advantage of Hank while
he was mentaly unstable, she ultimately decided it was fine.
This of course led to Hank continuing to get even more manic and resulted in him being
not just a bad hero but a bad husband when he slapped Janet after she expressed concern
about one of his devious plots.
The two divorced but years later, the two have resumed being romantically involved!
Though at least Janet was smart enough to refuse his next marriage proposal.
2 Batman and Talia
Granted Talia isn't so much a superhero but she does often help Batman out.
The two are originally pitched as star crossed lovers in the comics from two different worlds.
Batman is a vigilante and a hero and Talia is the daughter of Ra's Al Ghul, Leader of
the League of Assassins.
The part where this relationship goes too far is where somewhere down the line DC decided
to spin off the son that Talia and Batman have together is a product of rape.
In the 1987 version of this story, Talia and Batman are practically married in Bruce's
mind and for all intensive purposes in love while for a time Ra's and Batman actually
work together towards a common goal.
During this time, Talia becomes pregnant but claims she miscarried, though it is later
revealed that she ended up having the baby.
When the story of Batman and Son was retold in 2006, DC decided to change the details.
In this retelling Batman was drugged by Talia and raped, which is how Damian came to be.
What's worse is the animated story Batman isn't even mad about this revelation and Talia
seems to reminisce about the time she raped him fondly.
Why?
1 Hulk and She-Hulk
If you've watched some of our She-Hulk videos you may have already heard me talk about this
relationship that never should have happened.
And if you haven't, you might be stunned that this even happened.
There were a couple instances actually where this comes up but the most disturbing is the
events of an Old Man Logan storyline where Bruce and Jenn apparently hook up in a post-apocalyptic
future and have a whole brood of kids.
So you know this happened more than once.
It's also never really specified as to whether or not this is consensual sooooo that is also
a huge issue when it comes to this awful incestous relationship.
Just try to close your eyes and imagine that it never---nope, not working.
Making me imagine it more.
Ick.
Thank you so much for watching, nerd squad.
I hope you had fun counting down these 10 more superhero relationships that went just
way too far in our (comic) books.
Are there any couples we have still yet to mention that you think go way over the top?
Who are some of your favourite relationships from comics?
I personally think we should do a list on superhero couples that didn't take it far
enough.
There are so many small romantic dalliances that could have been so good had we actually
given them the time and space to be developed and flushed out.
What do you think?
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