>> PETER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET’S BRING IN MIKE POMPEO, FOX
NEWS CONTRIBUTOR, FORMER
SECRETARY OF STATE.
GOOD MORNING TO YOU,
MR. SECRETARY.
>> GOOD MORNING, STEVE.
GOOD TO BE WITH YOU ALL.
>> Steve: GOOD TO HAVE YOU.
THE ADMINISTRATION CAN’T FIGURE
OUT WHY THE MIGRANTS ARE COMING.
I THINK IT’S EASY.
THEY ARE COMING BECAUSE THE
ADMINISTRATION IS MAKING IT EASY
FOR THEM TO DO THAT.
>> STEVE, I THINK THAT’S RIGHT.
THIS ISN’T ABOUT ROOT CAUSES.
WE KNOW WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO COME
TO THE UNITED STATES.
IT’S A GREAT PLACE.
IT’S THE GREATEST NATION IN THE
HISTORY OF CIVILIZATION.
THE REACH THEY ARE ABLE TO COME
AND THE REASON SO MANY ARE
ACTUALLY CHOOSING TO COME
BECAUSE THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS
ABANDONED ANY PRETENSE OF
PROTECTING AMERICAN SOVEREIGNTY.
THEY ARE FOCUSED ON SOVEREIGNTY
FOR THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE.
WE SHOULD DO THAT HERE AT HOME.
THEY GAVE UP ALL THE GOOD WORK
THAT WE HAD DONE FOR FOUR YEARS.
WE HAD LAID DOWN A SET OF
POLICIES THAT HAD SLOWED DOWN
PEOPLE COMING ACROSS THE BORDER
AND STEVE IMPORTANTLY SLOWED
DOWN FENTANYL AND DRUGS
IMPACTING OUR COMMUNITIES ALL
ACROSS AMERICA FROM COMING
ACROSS THE BORDER AS WELL.
AND WE SHOULD NEVER FORGET THERE
IS A LOT OF UNGOVERNED SPACE IN
MEXICO WHERE TERROR THREATS ARE
VERY REAL IF WE DON’T KNOW
WHAT’S COMING IN AND OUT OF OUR
COUNTRY.
IT’S NOT THAT DIFFICULT TO DO.
THE ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO BE
SERIOUS ABOUT IT APPARENTLY THEY
HAVE GIVEN UP.
PROGRESSIVE ELEMENTS INSIDE THE
PARTY WANT OPEN BORDERS AND
THAT’S WHAT WE HAVE GOT TODAY.
>> Brian: INCREDIBLE.
CHINESE GIVING FENTANYL TO THE
MEXICAN CARTELS POISONING US.
TOGETHER, THEY ARE HELPING
DESTROY AMERICA FROM DIZZYING
RATE FROM MIDDLE CLASS ON DOWN.
I.
TO GET TO YOU WEIGH IN ON THE
FACT THAT RUSSIANS AND
UKRAINIANS, PEOPLE FROM EUROPE
ARE NOW COMING TO OUR BORDER IN
RECORD NUMBERS.
IF THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ARE
SECRETARY OF STATE AND WHEN YOU
HAVE THE VICE PRESIDENT GO DOWN
TO HONDURAS, WHICH HE SAYS THE
ROOT CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM, WITH
PRIVATE MONEY THAT SHE RAISED TO
HELP HONDURAS REBUILD THEIR
ECONOMY, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT
THE WAY THEY ARE ATTACKING SOME
OF THE CHALLENGES OF THE BORDER
FROM ALL THESE DIFFERENT
COUNTRIES?
>> BRIAN, IT’S ONE THING, IT’S
FINE IF WE WANT TO PROVIDE
HUMANITARIAN ASSISTANCE OF SOME
KIND.
THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THE
IMPORTANCE AND THE PROJECTS
WHICH IS PROTECTING AMERICAN
SOVEREIGNTY AND PROTECTING OUR
BORDER.
NOT JUST OUR SOVEREIGN BORDER
BUT PORTS, TOO, WHERE FOLKS COME
IN AND OVERSTAY VISAS.
WE HAD COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM
AIMED PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
IF YOU COME HERE AND SEEK
ASYLUM, FAIR ENOUGH YOU HAVE ARE
NOT GOING TO STAY HERE WHY YOU
DO.
WE TELL THOSE FOLKS YOU ARE
GOING TO REMAIN IN MEXICO.
WHEN WE DID THAT PRETTY CLEAR.
SHUT OFF THE SPIGOT, MAGNET
TURNED OFF.
WE SUPPORTED ISIS AND CBP IN A
WAY THAT ENABLED THEM TO PROTECT
AMERICAN SOVEREIGNTY.
THESE DRUGS, THESE WEAPONS, ALL
OF THIS STUFF COMING ACROSS THE
BORDER IS IN EVERYONE’S BEST
INTEREST TO HATE AMERICA AND
WANT AMERICAN DECLINE.
WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR COUNTRY
IN A WAY THAT WE KNOW HOW TO DO
AND IS EASILY WITHIN OUR REACH.
>> Carley: I WANT TO ASK YOU
ABOUT AFGHANISTAN.
THE UNITED NATIONS SAYS THERE
ARE CREDIBLE ALLEGATIONS THAT
100 FORMER AFGHANISTAN
GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS TROOPS AND
THOSE WHO WORK WITH COALITION
FORCES HAVE BEEN KILLED BY THE
TALIBAN SINCE THE U.S. TROOP
WITHDRAWAL.
DEFICIT STATING NEWS.
NOT SURPRISING THOUGH.
BUT, THESE PEOPLE WERE KILLED
BECAUSE THEY WORKED WITH THE
UNITED STATES.
WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THIS?
>> CARLEY, WHEN YOU LEAF FRIENDS
AND ALLIES AND AMERICANS BEHIND,
THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT
HANS.
I HAVE SEEN THAT U.N. REPORTING.
BUT I ALSO HAVE FIRSTHAND
KNOWLEDGE THAT THIS HAS TAKEN
PLACE.
WE STILL HAVE FOLKS WHO WANT TO
GET OUT OF THE COUNTRY.
FOLKS WHO SUPPORTED OUR
SOLDIERS, OUR SAILORS, OUR
DIPLOMATS, INTELLIGENCE SERVICES
WHILE WE WERE THERE.
THEY HELPED US TAKE DOWN TERROR
PLOTS AGAINST THE UNITED STATES
FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
AND WHETHER THIS ADMINISTRATION
RIPPED UP THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION’S PLAN AND
ABANDONED THOSE PEOPLE.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT ONE WOULD
EXPECT TO WOO HAPPEN.
TO SAY YOUR POINT, CARLEY, THIS
IS NOT SURPRISING THAT BAD GUYS
ARE ACTING IN THIS WAY TO TAKE
VENGEANCE ON THOSE WHO FOUGHT
AGAINST THEM FOR YEARS WHEN THEY
HAVE VIRTUALLY UNFETTERED
CONTROL INSIDE OF HEIR COUNTRY.
>> Steve: MR. SECRETARY, LET’S
TALK ABOUT ANOTHER HOT SPOT.
THAT IS WHAT THE HECK IS GOING
ON WITH UKRAINE AND RUSSIA AS
WELL.
THERE HAVE BEEN DIPLOMATIC
NEGOTIATIONS, APPARENTLY DOESN’T
SEEM LIKE MUCH IS GOING ON.
YESTERDAY, NED PRICE, WHO IS THE
STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESMAN
CLASHED, LOCKED HORNS WITH THE
ASSOCIATED PRESS REPORTER MATT
LEE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS
HAPPENING?
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
WATCH THIS.
>> DID THE SECURITY COUNCIL
ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING?
>> THIS WAS NOT ABOUT ARING VOTE
THIS WAS ABOUT AN EXPOSITION OF
THE FACTS.
>> AND HASN’T THERE BEEN
EXPOSITIONS AFTER EXPOSITIONS,
AFTER EXPOSITION GOING BACK
MONTHS NOW?
YOU, YOURSELF, GET UP HERE EVERY
SINGLE DAY OR TALK ABOUT OR
WHENEVER YOU GET UP HERE AND SAY
JUST WHEN YOU ARE BRIEFING, YOU
GET UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT THE
G-7, YOU TALK ABOUT THE EU.
YOU TALK ABOUT NATO.
YOU TALK, ABOUT YOU KNOW, AND
ANY NUMBER OF INTERNATIONAL
WHERE THIS STUFF HAS ACTUALLY
COME OUT AND BEEN AGREED ON.
AND.
>> NOT GOING TO APOLOGIZE IN
ENGAGING IN ROBUST DIPLOMACY.
>> Steve: IN SECRETARY, THE
REPORTER FROM THE ASSOCIATED
PRESS HAS BEEN THERE A VERY LONG
TIME.
HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING
ABOUT.
TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IT LOOKS LIKE
THE ADMINISTRATION IS DOING TOO
MUCH TALKING AND NOT ENOUGH
DOING.
>> MOST IMPORTANT WORD IN THAT
CONVERSATION WAS TALK.
THAT’S WHAT THE REPORTER KEPT
REFERRING TO TALK, TALK, TALK.
IN THE END VLADIMIR PUTIN
UNDERSTANDS DEEDS OLIGARCHS AND
PEOPLE AROUND HIM NEED TO
UNDERSTAND THEY WILL BE CUT OFF
FROM THE THINGS THEY LOVE
TRAVELING TO LONDON AND PARIS
AND TO THE UNITED STATES.
ALL THE THINGS THAT THESE FOLKS
VALUE.
THEY NEED TO KNOW ARE ARE BEING
HELD AT RISK.
WHAT THEY ARE SEEING TALKED
ABOUT AFGHANISTAN.
TALKING ABOUT OUR BORDER.
SEEING WEAKNESS, A LEADER NOT
PREPARED TO DEFENDER THE THINGS
THAT MATTER MOST TO THE PEOPLE
ACROSS OUR COUNTRY.
PRICES OF RED WINTER WHEAT THAT
COMES OUT OF UKRAINE AND RUSSIA
ARE BEGINNING TO BECOME
DESTABILIZED.
30% GOES THROUGH THE BLACK SEA
UKRAINE.
THESE ARE THE THINGS AMERICAN
PRESIDENTS ALWAYS PROTECTED THIS
ONE DOESN’T SEEM TO BE PREPARED.
TO SAY WHEN IT’S TALK, TALK,
TALK.
A RUSSIAN ALSO UNDERSTAND ACT,
ACT, ACT.
>> Brian: HOW DO YOU FEEL AND
SOME PEOPLE DON’T HAVE A PROBLEM
WITH THIS.
MACRON SEEMS TO BE ON HIS OWN
WITH THE SO-CALLED NORMANDY
GROUP.
WE HAVE OURSELVES TALKING TO
LAVROV TODAY.
WE HAVE VLADIMIR PUTIN TALKING
WITH THE PRESIDENT OF HUNGARY.
DOES IT BOTHER YOU AND IT MIGHT
NOT THAT THE U.S. AND NATO AND
THE EU SEEM TO BE ON DIFFERENT
CONFERENCE SETTINGS?
>> NEEDS TO BE TOGETHER.
IT NEEDS TO BE -- THIS THE IS
THING PRESIDENT BIDEN PROMISED
HE WOULD DELIVER, WE ARE BACK,
OUR EUROPEAN FRIENDS WILL LOVE
US AGAIN.
WE NEED THE GERMANS AND FRENCH
TO GET ON BOARD WITH THE
AMERICAN EFFORT TO PUSH BACK
AGAINST VLADIMIR PUTIN.
WHEN THERE IS GAP OR SPACE,
BRIAN, YOU KNOW THIS STORY WELL.
WHEN THERE IS A PLACE TO RUN.
VLADIMIR PUTIN WILL FIND THAT
LOWEST POINT OF RESISTANCE AND
BUILD THE NORD STREAM 2 PIPELINE
AND THREATEN UKRAINIANS DO
THINGS THAT IMPACT PEOPLE ALL
ACROSS THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA.
>> Carley: RIGHT NOW IT’S A BIG
GUESSING GAME.
SOME FOREIGN POLICY EXPERTS SAY
THAT VLADIMIR PUTIN ISN’T GOING
TO INVADE UKRAINE DURING THE
OLYMPICS BECAUSE HE DOESN’T WANT
TO OUTSHINE HIS BEST FRIEND IN
CHINA.
AND THEN OTHERS SAY THAT IT’S
IMMINENT.
SO, WHEN DO YOU THINK THIS IS
GOING IT HAPPEN IF IT DOES AND
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE?
>> PREDICTING TIMELINES IS VERY
DIFFICULT.
XI JINPING AND PUTIN CERTAINLY
HAVE A COMMON ALLIANCE BUT THEY
ARE NOT PARTICULARLY CLOSE IN
THAT SENSE THAT WE SHOULDN’T
TAKE OUR EYE OFF THE BALL
EITHER.
WE WILL HOLD A GENOCIDE OLYMPICS
WHERE ATHLETES WILL BE FORCED TO
BE MUZZLED ON THE GROUND FOR
WEEKS PRESENTING REAL RISK FOR
THEM.
FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IT
MATTERS BECAUSE IF THE UNITED
STATES IS WEAK IN THE WORLD, THE
DOLLAR THE RESERVE -- INTEREST
RATES, WE COULD HAVE ENERGY
PRICES SKYROCKETING IN THE
UNITED STATES AS WELL.
WE NEED STABILITY IN THESE
PLACES.
THE UNITED STATES HAS THE
CAPACITY TO ACHIEVE THAT THAT
WILL JUST DO THE RIGHT THINGS
AND DETER AGGRESSION IN THE WAY
THAT WE DID FOR FOUR YEARS.
>> Steve: SURE.
OF COURSE, BEFORE YOU WERE
SECRETARY OF STATE, BEFORE YOU
RAN THE CIA YOU WERE A
CONGRESSMAN FROM THE GREAT STATE
OF KANSAS, THAT’S WHY YOU KNOW
ABOUT THE PRICE OF WINTER WHEAT.
WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW
THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN
HANDLING VARIOUS FOREIGN
AFFAIRS.
WHAT ABOUT DOMESTICALLY?
YOU KNOW, OUR LEAD STORY THIS
HOUR AND LAST HOUR IS CRIME IT
DOES NOT SEEM LIKE THIS
ADMINISTRATION IS PUTTING THE
SAME EMPHASIS ON CRIME THAT A
LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE
THEM DO.
>> STEVE, MUCH LIKE IN FOREIGN
POLICY WORK, THEY PUT CLIMATE
AHEAD OF EVERYTHING ELSE.
HERE THEY HAVE PUT THE IDEA
CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG AND
REFUSING TO MAKE SURE THAT BAD
GUYS ARE PUT IN JAIL IN THE WAY
THAT WE ALWAYS KNOW WE HAVE TO.
DO NOT ONLY TO DETER THAT
PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL AND TAKE
THEM OFF THE STREETS WHICH IS
COMMON SENSE.
TO SAY MAKE CLEAR IT’S
UNACCEPTABLE TO CVS OR
WALGREEN’S.
WE SAW THIS BACK FROM THE SUMMER
OF 2020 WHEN THE PROGRESSIVE
MOVEMENT ALLOWED THESE RIOTS TO
TAKE PLACE IN CITIES ALL ACROSS
AMERICA.
THEY SAID THIS IS JUST PEOPLE
VENDING.
THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE IN THE
UNITED STATES.
WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO
PROTECT EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN
AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS
NEED TO BE GIVEN THE POWER TO DO
SO AND DISTRICT ATTORNEYS NEED
TO PROSECUTE THEM TO THE FULL
EXTENT OF THE LAW.
>> Brian: REMEMBER, WHEN YOU
WERE SECRETARY OF STATE, CIA
DIRECTOR FIRST.
WHEN YOU WROUGHT UP THINGS LIKE
I THINK THAT THE VIRUS, COVID-19
CAME FROM A LAB.
YOU WERE MARGINALIZED LIKE TOM
COTTON OR TAKEN DOWN FROM
YOUTUBE.
NOW WE FIND OUT THAT NOT ONLY
WAS THERE SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL
TO THAT.
EVEN THE PEOPLE IN THE KNOW
THOUGHT OF THAT.
AND THEY WERE TOLD, BASICALLY,
THEY WERE TOLD TO MUZZLE UP FOR
THE GOOD OF SCIENCE.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS
GOING TO BE EXPANDED
INVESTIGATION.
HERE IS ONE QUOTE.
DR. NICHOLAI UNIVERSITY MEDICINE
PROFESSOR SAID THIS SHOT FROM
EVERY DIRECTION FROM PEOPLE WHO
WE NOW KNOW ARE ACTUALLY
THINKING EXACTLY THE SAME THING.
BUT HAVE CHOSEN TO SAY THE
OPPOSITE.
WHICH IS EXTRAORDINARY.
IT’S TAKEN TWO YEARS FOR THAT TO
FINALLY COME OUT AND BE EXPOSED
AND WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT
IS THE SCIENTISTS WHO SAID I
THINK THIS CAME FROM A LAB LEAK
AND THEN QUICK A CONFERENCE CALL
WAS PUT TOGETHER BY FAUCI AND
HIS BOSS FRANCIS COLLINS TO SAY
GUYS, LET’S GET ON THE SAME
PAGE.
THIS HAPPENED NATURALLY.
IN FACT, FAUCI SAID IT LAST WEEK
ON A PODCAST THIS CAME OUT
NATURALLY.
BRING US INSIDE THE MIND OF
SCIENCE AND INTERNATIONAL
RELATIONS.
>> I CAN TELL YOU THIS, BRIAN.
IN THE SPRING OF 2020, IT WAS
CLEAR TO ME PERSONALLY AND I
THINK TO A LARGE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE WHO HAD ACCESS TO THE
DATA, THAT THIS ALMOST CERTAINLY
CAME FROM THE WUHAN INSTITUTE OF
VIROLOGY.
I SAID IT PUBLICLY IN THE SPRING
I THINK IT WAS MARCH OR APRIL OF
2020.
WE WERE PILLARRIED.
NOW YOU ARE SEEING THIS BEING
UNPACKED.
I DON’T KNOW THE DETAILS WHAT
WAS GOING ON INSIDE THE MEDICAL
COMMUNITY, U.S. GOVERNMENT
MEDICAL COMMUNITY, IT IS NOW
VERY CLEAR THAT DR. FAUCI KNEW
THAT THERE WAS U.S. MONEY GOING
TO THE ECOHEALTH ALLIANCE.
ALMOST CERTAINLY TO BE
PERFORMING GULCH INSIDE OF CHINA
PROBABLY TO EVADE U.S.
RESTRICTIONS THERE IS A LOT MORE
TO LEARNING.
IT STILL MATTERS BRIAN TO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
DON’T FORGET THAT LAB WAS STILL
OPEN AND OPERATING INSIDE OF
CHINA TODAY.
>> Brian: MICK MULVANEY, I THINK
HE WAS CHIEF OF STAFF AT THE
TIME.
SAID THE PRESIDENT DIDN’T KNOW
ABOUT THIS.
HE DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT THE
EXCHANGE BETWEEN THE SCIENTISTS.
DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT ANY OF THAT
HOW UNBELIEVABLE IS THAT?
>> IT IS UNBELIEVABLE THAT HAD
YOU SENIOR MEDICAL OFFICIALS.
U.S. GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS THAT
WEREN’T SHARING WITH THE SENIOR
LEADERS OF AMERICA WHAT THEY
KNEW ABOUT WHAT WAS LIKELY THE
CAWLTZ OF NOW WHAT WE ARE SEEING
KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ACROSS
THE WORLD.
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS IN THE
UNITED STATES AND DID UNTOLD
DAMAGE TO AMERICAN SOCIETY.
>> Brian: LET ALONE 4 AND
5-YEAR-OLDS STILL DON’T KNOW
THEIR ABC BECAUSE OF IT.
>> Steve: WILL HAVE KILLED CLOSE
TO A MILLION PEOPLE IN THE
UNITED STATES.
IT IS TERRIBLE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. SECRETARY.
WE KNOW YOU HAVE GOT TO GO
TODAY.
>> THANK YOU, STEVE, CARLEY AND