>> PRESIDENT TRUMP DID NOT FAIL
TO ACT DURING THE 187 MINUTES
BETWEEN LEAVING THE ELLIPSE AND
TELLING THE MOB TO GO HOME.
HE CHOSE NOT TO ACT.
>> Bret: REPUBLICAN
CONGRESSMAN ADAM KINZINGER AND
THURSDAYS PRIME TIME JANUARY 6
COMMITTEE HEARING, LAYING OUT
THE ARGUMENT THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP IGNORED PLEAS
FROM HIS INNER CIRCLE TO CONDEMN
THE ATTACK ON THE U.S. CAPITAL.
JOINING US NOW FROM WYOMING IS
THE VICE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE,
CONGRESSWOMAN LIZ CHENEY.
WELCOME BACK TO FOXLEY SUNDAY.
>> Representative Cheney:
THANKS, BRET, GREAT TO BE WITH
YOU.
>> Bret: YOU SAID ("THE DAM
HAS BEGUN TO BREAK."
WHAT’S THE NEWEST, MOST
SURPRISING INFORMATION YOU’VE
UNCOVERED OR DISCOVERED AS VICE
CHAIR OF THE JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE
COMMITTEE?
>> Representative Cheney:
WELL, CERTAINLY WE’VE SEEN OVER
THE COURSE OF THE LAST SEVERAL
WEEKS, AND REACHING BACK A
LITTLE BIT BEFORE THAT, A REAL
INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF
INFORMATION AND THE NUMBERS OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING FORWARD.
I THINK THAT CERTAINLY KASSIDY
HUTCHINSON’S TESTIMONY HAD A LOT
TO DO WITH THAT, BUT EVEN BEFORE
THAT, THE REALITY IS THAT THE
COMMITTEE HAS COLLECTED SO MUCH
IN TERMS OF DOCUMENTS AND IN
TERMS OF TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE
THAT THE REAL CHALLENGE FOR US
IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
PROVIDING THAT TO THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE IN A WAY THAT HELPS TO
ORGANIZE AND CONVEY THE THREAT
THAT THE NATION FACED, AND THAT
WE ARE PUTTING IT INTO OUR
PROCESS TO COME UP WITH
LEGISLATIVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO
HELP MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING LIKE
THAT EVER HAPPENS AGAIN.
>> Bret: WHAT’S THE ULTIMATE
GOAL OF THE COMMITTEE?
IS IT TO MAKE SURE THAT
DONALD TRUMP DOESN’T EVER BECOME
PRESIDENT AGAIN, OR IS IT TO
MOVE FORWARD, LAY OUT A CASE,
PROD THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO
MOVE FORWARD WITH CHARGES?
>> Representative Cheney:
WELL, THE GOAL OF THE COMMITTEE
AND OUR OBLIGATION IS OUR
LEGISLATIVE PURPOSE OF LOOKING
AT WHETHER OR NOT, FOR EXAMPLE,
WE NEED ENHANCED CRIMINAL
PENALTIES FOR THE KIND OF
ACTIVITY DONALD TRUMP ENGAGED IN
WHEN HE ATTEMPTED TO PRESSURE
THE GEORGIA OFFICIALS, OR FOR
EXAMPLE WHETHER WE MIGHT NEED
ENHANCED CRIMINAL PENALTIES FOR
SOMETHING LIKE THE SUPREME
DERELICTION OF DUTY THAT WE SAW
FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP ON JANUARY
JANUARY 6TH.
IF SO THAT’S OUR OBLIGATION,
THAT’S OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
THIS WAS A FUNDAMENTAL ASSAULT,
AN ATTACK ON OUR DEMOCRACY.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD A PRESIDENT WHO
SENT A MOB HE KNEW WAS ARMED TO
THE CAPITAL TO ATTACK AND INVADE
WHILE WE WERE COUNTING ELECTORAL
VOTES, DELAYED THE COUNT OF
THOSE VOTES, AND WHILE THE
ATTACK WAS UNDERWAY, IT IS
UNQUESTIONABLE THAT HE DID NOT
TELL THEM TO GO HOME FOR HOURS,
AND INVESTIGATING THAT ATTACK
AND WHAT LED TO IT AND WHAT WE
NEED TO DO LEGISLATIVELY TO MAKE
SURE IT NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN IS
OUR FUNDAMENTAL -- OUR
FUNDAMENTAL RESPONSIVITY.
>> Bret: SO DO YOU BELIEVE THE
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP SHOULD
FACE CHARGES?
>> Representative Cheney: I
BELIEVE THAT’S A DECISION THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WILL MAKE.
I BELIEVE THAT THE FORMER
PRESIDENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A
MORE SIGNIFICANT BREACH OF HIS
CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY THAN ANY
PRESIDENT IN OUR HISTORY.
I THINK THAT WHAT YOU’VE SEEN --
AND REMEMBER, OUR TESTIMONY HAS
COME PRIMARILY FROM REPUBLICAN
WITNESSES, FROM REPUBLICANS IN
DONALD TRUMP’S JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT, FROM REPUBLICANS IN
HIS CAMPAIGN, FROM REPUBLICANS
IN HIS WHITE HOUSE.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME FORWARD TO
SAY THAT HE ATTEMPTED TO
OVERTURN AN ELECTION THAT THE
ELECTION WAS NOT STOLEN, THAT
THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE OF FRAUD
SUFFICIENT TO OVERTURN THE
ELECTION.
EVEN RUDY GIULIANI, HIS LAWYER,
YOU KNOW, MADE CLEAR THAT HE DID
NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO
OVERTURN THE ELECTION.
IT SIMPLY WASN’T STOLEN, AND
DONALD TRUMP HAS PREYED ON THE
PATRIOTISM OF HONORABLE AND GOOD
PEOPLE ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY
WITH THE BIG LIE, AND IT’S VERY
IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO
UNDERSTAND THAT IT’S SIMPLY NOT
TRUE.
>> Bret: THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
SEEMS RELUCTANT.
THIS IS WHAT HE SAID THIS WEEK.
>> THERE IS A LOT OF SPECULATION
ABOUT WHAT THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT IS DOING, WHAT IT’S
NOT DOING, WHAT OUR THEORIES
ARE.
WE HAVE TO DO TWO THINGS.
WE HAVE TO HOLD ACCOUNTABLE
EVERY PERSON WHO IS CRIMINALLY
RESPONSIBLE FOR TRYING TO
OVERTURN A LEGITIMATE ELECTION,
AND WE MUST DO IT IN A WAY WITH
INTEGRITY AND PROFESSIONALISM.
>> Bret: DO YOU HAVE ANY
INDICATION THE DOJ IS MOVING
FORWARD?
>> Representative Cheney: I
THINK WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
SAID THERE IS EXACTLY RIGHT, AND
I THINK THAT IT’S VERY CLEAR
FROM WHAT’S AVAILABLE PUBLICLY
THAT THEY ARE ENGAGED IN -- IT’S
THE LARGEST CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION IN U.S. HISTORY.
YOU’VE ALSO SEEN PUBLICLY
INDICATIONS THAT WHAT THEY ARE
ENGAGED IN IS QUITE BROAD.
YOU’VE SEEN JEFF CLARK’S PHONE
SEIZED AND JOHN EASTMAN’S PHONE
SEIZED.
YOU’VE SEEN A FOCUS, SOME OF
WHICH IS PUBLIC, AND SOME
BUSINESS, BUT THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT’S OBLIGATION IS TO
FOLLOW THE FACTS AND EVIDENCE,
AND DATE -- THAT IS A SOLEMN
OBLIGATION THAT THEY MUST
PURSUE, NO MATTER WHETHER THAT
MEANS FOLLOWING THE FACTS AND
EVIDENCE WITH RESPECT TO THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
OR RESPECT TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO
INVADED THE CAPITAL.
BUT LET ME ALSO SAY, BRET, THAT
JUDGE CARTER, A FEDERAL JUDGE,
HAS ALREADY INDICATED AND HAS
ALREADY RULED THAT IT’S MORE
LIKELY THAN NOT THE
PRESIDENT TRUMP VIOLATED AT
LEAST TWO CRIMINAL STATUTES WITH
RESPECT TO HIS EFFORTS TO GET
VICE PRESIDENT PENCE TO
ILLEGALLY REFUSE TO COUNT
ELECTORAL VOTES.
SO I THINK WE’VE ALREADY SEEN A
BASIS FOR THAT.
>> Bret: A COUPLE QUICK
SPECIFICS.
WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO HEAR FROM
TONY OR NOT,-PRESIDENT TRUMP’S
CHIEF OF STAFF, NOW
SECRET SERVICE TRAINING
OFFICIAL.
BOBBY ENGEL, PRESIDENT TRUMP
LEAD SECRET SERVICE AGENT UNDER
OATH?
IS THERE HOLD UP YOUR?
DO YOU EXPECT TO HEAR TESTIMONY
FROM THEM?
>> Representative Cheney: I
DO.
WE HAVE ALREADY HEARD TESTIMONY
FROM THEM.
I EXPECT THAT WE WILL AGAIN.
HE HAS RETAINED PRIVATE CRIMINAL
DEFENSE COUNSEL, AND WE’VE SEEN
THAT ALSO WITH RESPECT TO ONE
OTHER SECRET SERVICE AGENT.
I THINK THAT IS SIGNIFICANT.
BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE NOT JUST
THEM.
CERTAINLY THEM, BUT LARGELY WHAT
HAPPENED AT THE
SECRET SERVICE -- AND I SAY THIS
AS SOMEONE WHO HAS HUGE RESPECT
FOR THE SECRET SERVICE.
I WAS PROTECTED BY THEM FOR
EIGHT YEARS.
BUT THE EXTENT TO WHICH THERE
ARE NO TEXT MESSAGES FROM THE
RELEVANT PERIOD OF TIME, THE
EXTENT TO WHICH WE HAVE NOT HAD
THE KIND OF COOPERATION THAT WE
REALLY NEED TO HAVE, THOSE ARE
ALL THINGS THE COMMITTEE IS
GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IN MORE
DETAIL IN THE COMING WEEKS.
>> Bret: WHAT WILL THE
COMMITTEE’S REPORT HAVE TO SAY
ABOUT WHY THE ASSETS LIKE
NATIONAL GUARD WEREN’T PREPPED
AND READY?
IS THERE A TESTIMONY ALREADY
GATHERED ON SPEAKER PELOSI’S
DECISIONS OR THE SERGEANT OF
ARMS IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE ON
THAT REGARD?
>> Representative Cheney:
YEAH, WE HAVE AN ENTIRE TEAM --
WITH GOT FIVE DIFFERENT TEAMS IN
THE INVESTIGATION.
ONE OF THEM IS TOTALLY FOCUSED
ON ALL OF THOSE ISSUES OF
SECURITY AT THE CAPITAL AND THE
RESPONSE OF THE CAPITOL POLICE,
THE RESPONSE OF THE
NATIONAL GUARD, THE RESPONSE OF
THE CAPITOL POLICE BOARD, WHAT
WAS GOING ON AT THE PENTAGON
THAT DAY.
SO IT’S AN ENTIRE FOCUS, THE
INVESTIGATION.
YOU WILL SEE IN OUR REPORTS, YOU
WILL LIKELY SEE AN UPCOMING
HEARINGS, SO IT IS CERTAINLY
SOMETHING WE ARE GOING TO BE
VERY FOCUSED ON.
BUT WHAT WE AREN’T GOING TO DO,
BRET, IS BLAME THE CAPITOL
POLICE, BLAME THOSE IN
LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR
DONALD TRUMP’S ARMED MOB THAT HE
SENT TO THE CAPITAL.
I BELIEVE THERE WERE
INTELLIGENCE FAILURES -- CLEARLY
THERE WERE INTELLIGENCE
FAILURES, CLEARLY THE SECURITY
SHOULD HAVE OPERATED BETTER THAN
IT DID.
BUT THIS WAS A MOB DONALD TRUMP
SENT TO THE CAPITAL, AND I THINK
THAT’S IMPORTANT TO KEEP OUR EYE
ON.
>> Bret: THERE ARE SEVERAL
WITNESSES WHO SAY THEY MET WITH
PRESIDENT TRUMP ON JANUARY 4TH
AND HE OFFERED SOME 20,000
NATIONAL GUARDSMEN TO PROTECT
THE CAPITOL BUILDING ON
JANUARY 6TH, BUT THE OFFER WAS
REJECTED.
IS THAT TRUE?
DO YOU KNOW THAT TO BE TRUE?
>> Representative Cheney:
WELL, HIS OWN ACTING SECRETARY
OF DEFENSE SAYS THAT’S NOT TRUE.
CHRIS MILLER HAS TESTIFIED
PUBLICLY THAT DONALD TRUMP NEVER
ISSUED ANY ORDER TO DEPLOY THE
GUARD TO PROTECT THE CAPITAL.
AND SO I WOULD POINT PEOPLE TO
HIS OWN SECRETARY OF DEFENSE’S
PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT ON JANUARY
WAS UNDERWAY, DONALD TRUMP DID
NOT PLACE A SINGLE PHONE CALL TO
ANYONE AT THE PENTAGON.
HE DIDN’T PLACE A SINGLE PHONE
CALL TO ANYONE AT THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT TO SAY DEPLOY
LAW ENFORCEMENT.
HE DIDN’T PLACE A SINGLE PHONE
CALL TO ANYBODY AT THE
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY,
AND SO THE NOTION THAT SOMEHOW
HE ISSUED AN ORDER IS NOT
CONSISTENT WITH THE FACTS.
>> Bret: OKAY, WE WILL LISTEN
TO WHAT COMES OUT OF THE
HEARING, BUT YOU KNOW THE
CRITICS OF THE JANUARY 6
COMMITTEE SAY IT’S A SHOW TRIAL.
YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO
THAT?
THEY LIST THESE THINGS, THEY SAY
IT’S PRODUCED BY TELEVISION
PROFESSIONALS WHO CLEARLY LEAN
LEFT, IT AIRS IN PRIME TIME.
THERE’S NO OPPORTUNITY FOR THE
TARGET TO DEFEND OR PUT FORTH A
DEFENSE.
THERE’S NO CROSS-EXAMINATION OF
WITNESSES, A DUTY DEEPLY
INGRAINED, THEY SAY, IN AMERICAN
NOTION OF NOTIONS OF DUE PROCESS
THEY REQUIRE ROLE FOR A MEMBER
TO BE PUT FORWARD BY THE
MINORITY.
THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE
FACT THAT YOU ARE THAT RANKING
MEMBER EVEN THOUGH YOU WERE
SELECTED BY HOUSE
SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI.
SO HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THE
CRITICISM?
>> Representative Cheney: I
THINK IT’S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER
THE FACTS.
AND THE FIRST FACT IS THAT WE
ALL SUPPORTED A BIPARTISAN
OUTSIDE COMMISSION.
KEVIN McCARTHY HIMSELF SAT ON
THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE WE NEEDED
A BIPARTISAN OUTSIDE COMMISSION
TO INVESTIGATE THIS ATTACK AND
THEN AFTER HE NEGOTIATED WITH
THE DEMOCRATS AND GOT ALL OF THE
TERMS HE WANTED, HE PULLED THE
RUG OUT FROM UNDER THE
REPUBLICANS WHO WERE SUPPORTING
IT AND MADE SURE THAT IT WAS
DEFEATED IN THE SENATE.
AND SO ONCE THE BIPARTISAN
OUTSIDE COMMISSION WAS DEFEATED,
THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE LEFT TO US
WAS THIS COMMITTEE.
AND AFTER KEVIN McCARTHY NAMED
HIS MEMBERS TO THE COMMITTEE AND
SPEAKER PELOSI REJECTED TWO OF
THEM, JIM JORDAN AND JIM BANKS,
FOR GOOD REASON.
I SUPPORTED HER DECISION TO DO
THAT.
KEVIN McCARTHY WITHDREW ALL OF
HIS OTHER NOMINEES, AND SO THE
NOTION NOW THAT SOMEHOW THE
COMMITTEE IS INCAPABLE OF
GETTING TO THE FACTS OF WHAT
HAPPENED BECAUSE KEVIN
McCARTHY WITHDREW HIS NOMINEES
IS NONSENSICAL.
IT ALSO IS A DIVERSION.
AND I POINT OUT AGAIN, NEARLY
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR
WITNESSES HAS BEEN A REPUBLICAN.
YOU KNOW, RUSTY BOWERS, BRAD
RAFFENSPERGER.
>> Bret: I UNDERSTAND, WE HAVE
THE LIST.
CROSS-EXAMINATION IS AN
IMPORTANT THING IN COMMITTEE
HEARINGS, RIGHT?
>> Representative Cheney:
THAT’S RIGHT.
BUT I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT
I THINK IT IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY,
AND I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE,
THAT ANY OF THOSE WITNESSES’
TESTIMONY WOULD BE ANY DIFFERENT
AT THE QUESTIONING BEEN
DIFFERENT, AND IT IS -- IT IS --
IT WOULD BE A DERELICTION OF OUR
DUTY TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE
BECAUSE KEVIN McCARTHY DECIDED
TO WITHDRAW NOMINEES AND HE
DECIDED TO DO THAT, I’M QUITE
CONFIDENT, BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP
TOLD HIM TO, BECAUSE KEVIN
McCARTHY DECIDED NOT TO
PARTICIPATE IN THE COMMITTEE,
THAT SOMEHOW THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES CANNOT
INVESTIGATE THE SINGLE WORST
ATTACK THE UNITED STATES CAPITAL
SINCE THE WAR OF 1812.
AND IT IS ALSO A DIVERSION FROM
WHAT WE KNOW, THE FACTS ARE
INDISPUTABLE THAT WHILE THE
CAPITAL WAS BEING ATTACKED BY A
MOB SENT BY DONALD TRUMP, ARMED,
DONALD TRUMP WOULD NOT TELL THEM
TO GO HOME.
FOR OVER 187 MINUTES.
THAT IS A DERELICTION OF DUTY
LIKE WE HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
>> Bret: YOU’VE SAID THE
SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS
PROTECTING THE NATION FROM
DONALD TRUMP.
YOU ARE IN A TOUGH PRIMARY IN
WYOMING AGAINST A TRUMP BACK TO
CANADA, POLLS SHOW HER BY UP BY
MORE THAN 20 POINTS.
IF YOU LOSE DO YOU SEE THAT ON
AS AN INDICTMENT ON YOUR BATTLE
AGAINST TRUMP?
>> Representative Cheney: I AM
WORKING HARD TO EARN EVERY
SINGLE VOTE, BUT I WILL TELL
YOU, BRET, THAT GIVEN THE CHOICE
BETWEEN MAINTAINING MY SEAT IN
THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ON
THE ONE HAND OR ENSURING THE
SURVIVAL OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL
REPUBLIC AND ENSURING THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW THE TRUTH
ABOUT DONALD TRUMP, I WILL
CHOOSE THE CONSTITUTION AND THE
TRUTH EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK AND
TWICE ON SUNDAY.
WE HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL OBLIGATION
AND OATH THAT I AM MY COLLEAGUES
TOOK UNDER GOD TO THE
CONSTITUTION, AND THAT IS THE
SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT OBLIGATION
WE HAVE WHEN FACED WITH THE
THREAT THAT DONALD TRUMP
PRESENTS.
>> Bret: THIS IS HOW THE AP
WRITES IT TODAY.
AS PRIMARY APPROACHES THERE IS
ALSO A PERVASIVE BELIEF AMONG
CHENEY’S TEAM THAT HER
UNORTHODOX STRATEGY IN 2022 MAY
PUT HER IN A STRONGER POSITION
FOR THE 2024 PRESIDENTIAL
CONTEST.
THE INSURRECTION HAS
STRENGTHENED HER NATIONAL BRAND
WHILE EXPANDING A NATIONAL
NETWORK OF DONORS AND TRUMP
CRITICS IN BOTH PARTIES WHO
COULD BOOST A PROSPECTIVE
WHITE HOUSE RUN.
IS THAT THE STRATEGY?
ARE YOU EXPECTING TO LOSE, ARE
YOU GOING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT?
>> Representative Cheney: LOOK
MY FOCUS, BRET, IS ABSOLUTELY ON
DOING WHAT IS RIGHT, AND THAT IS
WHAT’S GUIDED ME EVER SINCE LAST
ELECTION, AND IN THE LEAD UP TO
THE OBJECTIONS IN THE HOUSE AND
THE WORK THAT I DID TO HELP TO
MAKE SURE THAT MY COLLEAGUES
UNDERSTOOD THAT WE COULD NOT
OVERTURN AN ELECTION IN THE
HOUSE ON JANUARY 6, IT’S GUIDED
ME AT EVERY MOMENT SINCE THEN
AND IT’S GUIDED MY WORK ON THIS
COMMITTEE.
AND LOOK, IT’S NOT JUST ME THAT
IS SAYING THAT DONALD TRUMP IS
UNFIT FOR OFFICE.
IT’S OTHER ENTITIES OWNED BY
RUPERT MURDOCH.
IF "THE NEW YORK POST" AND THEIR
EDITORIAL ON FRIDAY, IF
"THE WALL STREET JOURNAL," SAID
THE SAME THING AFTER OUR HEARING
ON THURSDAY NIGHT.
SO I’M GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE
GUIDED BY MAKING SURE I DO MY
DUTY AND MAKING SURE THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE
TRUTH.
>> Bret: LAST THING.
DO YOU SHARE THE CONCERNS OF
SOME OF YOUR COLLEAGUES AND
OTHERS IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
ABOUT THE BIDEN FAMILY OF
FOSTER’S DEALINGS IN CHINA, THE
FLOW OF MONEY FROM THE BEIJING
GOVERNMENT LINKED OFFICIALS TO
THE BIDENS?
>> Representative Cheney:
YEAH, I CERTAINLY THINK THAT IT
IS -- IT COULD BE OF CONCERN.
I THINK THAT -- YOU KNOW, IT’S
NOT SOMETHING THAT I HAVE LOOKED
AT THE DETAILS OF.
I’VE CERTAINLY SEEN THE NEWS
REPORTS OF IT, BUT I THINK THAT
IT’S IMPORTANT FOR ANY
PRESIDENT, NO MATTER THE PARTY,
TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE’S NOT
EVEN THE APPEARANCE OF ANY SORT
OF A CONFLICT, AND SO I THINK
THAT ON BOTH SIDES, WE REALLY
NEED TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE
WE GAIN BACK THE CREDIBILITY OF
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, WHERE WE
STEP BACK FROM THE EDGE OF THE
TOXICITY IN THE VITRIOLIC
BATTLES THAT ARE GOING ON.
IF THERE IS SOMETHING
SUBSTANTIVE ON EITHER SIDE THAT
CONGRESS NEEDS TO BE LOOKING AT,
WE SHOULD CERTAINLY DO THAT.
AND I THINK THAT THAT HAS TO BE
GUIDED BY SUBSTANCE AND NOT BY
POLITICAL ATTACK.
I MEAN, I WAS REALLY DISGUSTED,
FRANKLY, ON THURSDAY NIGHT, WHEN
EVEN BEFORE SARAH MATTHEWS BEGAN
TESTIFYING, THE HOUSE
REPUBLICANS PUT OUT A TWEET
ATTACKING HER THAT THEY THEN HAD
TO TAKE DOWN.
SHE’S A STAFFER.
SHE WORKS FOR THE HOUSE
REPUBLICANS, FOR A HOUSE
REPUBLICAN.
THAT KIND OF JUST LAUNCHING A
VITRIOLIC PARTISAN ATTACKS IS
REALLY DANGEROUS FOR THE COUNTRY
GIVEN WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
SO WE’VE GOT TO INVESTIGATE
ANYTHING THAT SEEMS LIKE THERE
IS CONCERN, AND I DO HAVE
CONCERN ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT
YOU’VE RAISED.
BUT WE NEED TO DO IT WITH
RESPONSIBILITY ON BOTH SIDES AND