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♪ >>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
IM MEGYN KELLY. WE BEGIN TODAY IN A MAJOR BREAK.
WE HAVE A MAJOR BREAK IN A VERY
COLD CASE THAT WEVE BEEN FOLLOWING HERE AT "MEGYN KELLY
TODAY."
TODAY."
WE FIRST BROUGHT YOU THE STORY OF THE NOTORIOUS GOLDEN STATEY
OF THE NOTORIOUS GOLDEN STATE KILLER LAST MONTH AND, BOY, HAS
IT TAKEN A TURN.
POLICE SAY AFTER 30 PLUS YEARS,
THEY HAVE THEIR MAN.
MORE NOW FROM NBCS JOE FRYER. >> Reporter: A NOTORIOUS COLD
CASE CRACKED.
CASE CRACKED. POLICE BELIEVE A RUTHLESS SERIAL
KILLER IS NOW BEHIND BARS.
KNOWN BOTH AS THE GOLDEN STATE
KILLER AND THE EAST AREA RAPIST.
INVESTIGATORS SAY THEIR SUSPECT
COMMITTED AT LEAST 12 MURDERS AND MORE THAN 50 RAPES ACROSS
CALIFORNIA IN THE 1970s AND
80s.
80s.
>> WE WERE LOOKING FOR A NEEDLE
IN A HAYSTACK. BUT WE ALSO ALL KNEW THAT THE
NEEDLE WAS THERE.
>> Reporter: JOSEPH JAMES
DeANGELO WAS ARRESTED TUESDAY
NIGHT IN SACRAMENTO, JUST TEN
MILES FROM WHERE THE SERIAL
ATTACKS BEGAN MORE THAN 40 YEARS
AGO.
AGO.
TWO OF THE VICTIMS HES ACCUSED OF KILLING, BRUCE HARRINGTONSD
OF KILLING, BRUCE HARRINGTONS BROTHER AND SISTER-IN-LAW, WHO
WERE BRUJLUDGEONED TO DEATH IN
THEIR HOME IN 1980.
>> IT IS TIME FOR THE VICTIMS TO
BEGIN TO HEAL.
>> Reporter: POLICE SAID
THOUSANDS OF MAN HOURS AND
DETECTIVE WORK HELPED THEM ZERO
IN ON DeANGELO.
DNA SAMPLES FROM DeANGELO PROVIDED THE FINAL PIECE OF
EVIDENCE.
EVIDENCE. >> WE WERE TABLE TO GETABLE TO G
DISCARDED DNA, AND WE WERE ABLE
TO CONFIRM WHAT WE THOUGHT WE
ALREADY KNEW.
ALREADY KNEW.
THAT WE HAD OUR MAN.
>> Reporter: DeANGELO HAD BEEN A POLICE OFFICER IN THE NEARBYEN A
POLICE OFFICER IN THE NEARBY TOWN OF AUBURN.
HE WAS FIRED AFTER SHOPLIFTING A
HAMMER AND DOG REPELLANT FROM A
STORE IN 1979. NOW 72, DeANGELO WAS ON THE
POLICE FORCE WHEN THE CRIME
SPREE BEGAN, EVENTUALLY
SPREADING TO TEN COUNTIES.
THE KILLERS BRUTAL ATTACKS
INCLUDED SADISTIC TOUCHES, LIKE
STEALING PERSONAL ITEMS FROM HIS
VICTIMS, AND TERRORIZING SOME
SURVIVORS AGAIN WITH THREATENING
PHONE MESSAGES.
PHONE MESSAGES. >> IM GONNA KILL YOU.
>> Reporter: THE CASES PROFILE
HAS RISEN IN RECENT YEARS THANKS
IN PART TO THE WORK OF
JOURNALIST MICHELLE McNAMARA,
WHO DIED IN HER SLEEP IN 2016.
McNAMARAS BEST SELLING BOOK
"ILL BE GONE IN THE DARK" WAS
FINISHED WITH THE HELP OF HER
HUSBAND, ACTOR PATTEN AS WALT NT
WHO APPEARED ON "LATE NIGHT WITH
SETH MEYERS."
SETH MEYERS."
>> HES BEEN CAUGHT.
ITS LIKE THIS THING SHE WANTED
SO BADLY IS NOW DONE. >> WOW.Y IS NOW DONE.
>> WOW. FOR MORE, IM JOINED BY
SACRAMENTO COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY ANN MARIE SHUB REERIE S
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
CONGRATULATIONS ON FINALLY
MAKING AN ARREST IN THIS CASE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WHAT WAS THE TIP?
WHAT WAS THE MOMENT THAT CRACKED
THIS CASE WIDE OPEN?
>> WELL, I WOULDNT SAY IT WAS A
TIP FROM A PERSON.
I WOULD SAY THAT IT WAS DNA,
HONESTLY.
HONESTLY.
IT WAS PASSION, PERSISTENCE AND DNA.AS PASSION, PERSISTENCE AND
DNA.
IT WAS USING INNOVATIVE DNA TECHNIQUES TO GET TO THE PATH WE
NEEDED AND IN VERY SHORT ORDER,
WHICH WAS ALL IN THE LAST WEEK.
>> YOU SAID YESTERDAY THAT THIS
GUY WASNT EVEN ON YOUR RADAR,
EXCEPT FOR THE LAST SIX DAYS.
HE WAS NEVER ON THE RADAR PRIOR
TO THAT.
TO THAT.
THERE HAD TO BE SOMETHING THAT LED YOU TO CHECK THAT DISCARDED
DNA WITHIN THE PAST SIX DAYS.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
IT HAD TO DO WITH THE WAY THAT THE DNA WAS DONE IN THISY THAT
THE DNA WAS DONE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WHICH WAS
INNOVATIVE, REALLY THE MOST
ADVANCED WAY WE CAN DO DNA NOW.
ITS SOMETHING THAT ULTIMATELY
LED US TO THIS INDIVIDUAL.
>> WHEN YOU SAY DISCARDED DNA,
HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT
MEANS.
MEANS.
>> THAT MEANS THAT THE SHERIFFS
DEPARTMENT PUT HIM UNDER
SURVEILLANCE, AND HE LEFT SOME DNA, ABANDONED DNA, AND THEYME
DNA, ABANDONED DNA, AND THEY USED THAT TO BUILD FROM.
A SECONDARY SAMPLE WAS OBTAINED
FROM HIM.
FROM HIM. THAT WAS REALLY THE ULTIMATE
PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT
IDENTIFIED HIM THROUGH HIS DNA
AS THE EAST AREA RAPIST/GOLDEN
STATE KILLER.
STATE KILLER.
>> WHY DID THEY PUT HIM UNDER SURVEILLANCE?EY PUT HIM UNDER
SURVEILLANCE?
>> THE TECHNOLOGY WE USED, USING DNA, LED US TO HIM AS AED, USING
DNA, LED US TO HIM AS A POTENTIAL SUSPECT IN THIS CASE.
>> HIS DNA WAS IN THE SYSTEM IN
SOME WAY?
SOME WAY?
>> NO. HIS DNA WAS NOT IN A CRIMINAL
DATABASE.
DATABASE.
ID SAY IT THAT WAY.
>> IS IT BECAUSE HE WAS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT?AUSE HE WAS IN LAW
ENFORCEMENT?
>> YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THIS,
BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY HAS
QUESTIONS ABOUT DNA. THE ARREST WARRANT IS UNDER
SEAL, AND THE MECHANISM OF THE
DNA WILL EVENTUALLY COME OUT.
AS I SAY, ITS REALLY INNOVATIVE
DNA WORK THAT LED TO HIM BEING A
SUSPECT.
SUSPECT.
THEN THE SAMPLE ULTIMATELY, WHICH IDENTIFIED HIM THROUGH HIS
DNA.
DNA.
>> FASCINATING.
I UNDERSTAND THERES ONLY SO
MUCH YOU CAN REVEAL.
I APPRECIATE YOU TRYING TO
THREAD THE NEEDLE.
I GET IT.
>> RIGHT.
>> DID HE MAKE ANY SORT OF A MISTAKE OR A SLIPUP RECENTLY?
I MEAN, DID THAT PLAY ANY ROLE?
>> NO.
>> NO.
I MEAN, THIS MAN WAS UNDETECTED
FOR 42 YEARS, UNTIL SIX DAYS
AGO.
>> HOW WAS HE ABLE TO HIDE IN PLAIN SIGHT?E ABLE TO HIDE IN
PLAIN SIGHT?
HES LIVING IN CITRUS HILLS, RIGHT?VING IN CITRUS HILLS,
RIGHT?
>> CITRUS HEIGHTS. >> THE SAME PLACE WHERE HE
COMMITTED SOME OF HIS MURDERS.
>> YOU KNOW, HE OBVIOUSLY WAS
VERY GOOD AT WHAT HE DID.
>> WOW.
>> WOW.
FIRST OF ALL, HAS HE LAWYERED UP?ST OF ALL, HAS HE LAWYERED
UP?
>> I CANT ANSWER THE QUESTION.
I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER.
HE HASNT YET BEEN ARRAIGNED.
HELL BE ARRAIGNED TOMORROW.
>> IS HE TALKING?
>> THATS A QUESTION YOULL NEED
TO ASK THE SHERIFFS DEPARTMENT. >> WHAT WAS HIS -- I KNOW YOUT.
>> WHAT WAS HIS -- I KNOW YOU SAID PUBLICLY HE WAS SURPRISED
ON ARREST.
ON ARREST. CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT THAT
MEANS?
MEANS?
>> WELL, THE SHERIFF DESCRIBED IT.WELL, THE SHERIFF DESCRIBED
IT.
I WASNT THERE, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN HE WAS ARRESTED.BVIOUSLY, WHEN
HE WAS ARRESTED. I JUST BELIEVE THAT HE WAS TAKEN
BY SURPRISE.
BY SURPRISE. IM QUITE SURE HE DID NOT KNOW
IT WAS COMING.
>> HE WAS LIVING WITH WHOM WHEN
HE WAS ARRESTED?
>> I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.DONT KNOW THE ANSWER TO
THAT.
I DO KNOW THAT WHEN THEY APPREHENDED HIM, HE WAS BY
HIMSELF.
HIMSELF.
>> OKAY.
FOR THE SIX DAYS THAT YOU ALL
WERE OBSERVING HIM, CAN YOU GIVE
US ANY COLOR ON THAT?
WHAT YOU SAW, WHETHER YOU WERE
CONCERNED.
WHAT DID YOU OBSERVE?
>> I WASNT PART OF THE
SURVEILLANCE.
I KNEW ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, FROM A
PERSPECTIVE OF PUBLIC SAFETY,
THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN, IS MAKING SURE THAT HOWEVER THIS
WENT DOWN, THAT EVERYBODY WAS
SAFE.
SAFE.
MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS DONE IN A SWIFT AND SAFE MANNER, REALLY.A
SWIFT AND SAFE MANNER, REALLY. >> SO FOR TEN YEARS, ITS
BELIEVED THIS GUY WAS ON A
KILLING SPREE, FROM 76 TO 86,
AND COMMITTING OVER 45 RAPES.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> AS OF 1986, THEY BELIEVE IT STOPPED. 1986, THEY BELIEVE IT
STOPPED.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT? DO YOU BELIEVE HE STOPPED
KILLING AS OF 1986?
>> WELL, I KNOW THAT AT LEAST
HERE IN CALIFORNIA, WITH OUR DNA
DATA BANK, WE DONT KNOW OF ANY
OTHER MURDERS IN CALIFORNIA, BUT
THAT DOESNT -- YOU KNOW, IM
NOT SURE WERE EVER GOING TO
KNOW ALL OF THEM.
SOME MAY NOT HAVE DNA.
SOME MAY BE IN OTHER PLACES.
SOME MAY NOT HAVE -- BE IN THE
SYSTEM.
SYSTEM.
IM NOT SURE WERE EVER GOING TO
KNOW.
WHAT WE DO KNOW IS WHAT WE KNOW NOW, WHICH IS, HES THE EASTKNOW
NOW, WHICH IS, HES THE EAST AREA RAPIST AND THE GOLDEN STATE
KILLER.
KILLER.
>> HOW CLOSELY DO YOU BELIEVE -- BECAUSE THIS CASE WAS QUIET FOR-
BECAUSE THIS CASE WAS QUIET FOR SO MANY YEARS.
MICHELLE McNAMARA WROTE HER
BOOK.
BOOK.
LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN
INTERESTED IN IT.
CNN HEADLINE NEWS PROFILED HIM
IN AN HOUR-LONG SPECIAL NOT LONG AGO.N HOUR-LONG SPECIAL NOT LONG
AGO.
WE PUT THE CASE ON OUR SHOW
ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
WHAT WAS IT, DO YOU THINK, THAT
LED TO THE RENEWED INTEREST IN
THIS?
>> WELL, I THINK THE PRESS
CONFERENCE THAT WAS DONE IN 2016 REALLY REINVIGORATED FOLKS. 2016
REALLY REINVIGORATED FOLKS. AFTER THE PRESS CONFERENCE, I
ASKED A LOT OF FOLKS TO COME TO
SACRAMENTO AND MAKE A COMMITMENT
OF RESOURCES AND PEOPLE AND
EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE AND
DEDICATION.
DEDICATION.
WE DID THAT.
I THINK EVERYBODY FELT WE CAN DO
THIS IF WE WORK HARD ENOUGH AND
WE ARE PERSISTENT AND PASSIONATE
ABOUT IT.
YOU KNOW, IT ALL CULMINATED YESTERDAY.IT ALL CULMINATED
YESTERDAY.
>> THERES A -- THERE WAS A $50,000 REWARD THAT WAS ONE OF
THE THINGS YOU OFFERED AS OF
2016 TO ANYBODY GIVING
INFORMATION THAT WOULD LEAD TO
HIS ARREST OR CAPTURE.
IS THAT GOING TO ANYBODY?
>> THATS AN INTERESTING
QUESTION.
QUESTION.
I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT
YET.
I DONT THINK PEOPLE HAVE SAT
DOWN AND TRIED TO FIGURE OUT
WHETHER THAT SHOULD HAPPEN IN
THIS CASE.
IM SURE ITLL BE DISCUSSED.
>> IT IS POSSIBLE?
>> ITS POSSIBLE.
>> HOW CLOSELY DO YOU BELIEVE
THE SKETCHES -- BECAUSE YOU PUT OUT SKETCHES OF THIS GUY -- NOW
SEEING WHO YOU ARRESTED,
DeANGELO, HOW CLOSELY DID HE
RESEMBLE THE SKETCHES?
>> I THINK THAT THE SKETCHES ARE
THE SKETCHES.
THE SKETCHES. I THINK THE DNA IS WHAT REALLY
THIS CASE IS ALL ABOUT.
>> NO DOUBT IN YOUR MIND --
BASED ON THE DNA, THERE IS NO
DOUBT IN YOUR MIND, YOU HAVE THE
RIGHT DAY.
RIGHT DAY.
>> NO DOUBT IN MY MIND, WE HAVE THE RIGHT GUY, YES.IND, WE HAVE
THE RIGHT GUY, YES. >> CAN I ASK YOU, BECAUSE ONE OF
THE THINGS YOU THOUGHT, AND MANY
PEOPLE THOUGHT, WAS HE MIGHT BE
FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THE WAY HE BROKE INTO THE
WOMENS HOUSES.
WOMENS HOUSES. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> THE COUPLES HOUSES.
THE WAY HE KNEW HOW TO TIE UP
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE.
HE KNEW HOW TO COVER HIS TRACKS
VERY WELL.
WAS THERE ANY INVESTIGATION AT
THE TIME, OR THEREAFTER, OF FIRED POLICE OFFICERS?R, OF
FIRED POLICE OFFICERS? HE WORKED SIX YEARS AS A COP.
HE WAS FIRED AFTER CAUGHT
SHOPLIFTING.
SHOPLIFTING. HE STOLE DOG REPELLANT AND, I
THINK, A ROPE.
>> RIGHT.
>> AT THE TIME, DID ANYBODY SAY, LETS LOOK AT COPS WHO HAVE BEEN,
LETS LOOK AT COPS WHO HAVE BEEN FIRED, WHO MIGHT BE DISGRUNTLED
IN THE AREA?
>>
>> >> I DONT KNOW IF THEY LOOKED
AT THAT.
AT THAT. I DONT KNOW THEYD KNOW BASED
ON PERSONNEL RECORDS, WHETHER
SOMEBODY WAS FIRED.
THATD BE A DIFFICULT ONE.
BEING A MEMBER OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND A MEMBER OF THE
MILITARY WAS ALWAYS SOMETHING
THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT CONSIDERED
AS A POSSIBILITY.
>> WOW.
>> WOW.
NOW, HES BEEN CHARGED WITH EIGHT MURDERS.CHARGED WITH
EIGHT MURDERS.
DO YOU EXPECT THE NUMBER TO GO
UP?
>> HES BEEN CHARGED RIGHT NOW, MEGYN, WITH FOUR.ED RIGHT NOW,
MEGYN, WITH FOUR.
I EXPECT THE NUMBERS TO GO UP. THERES MANY OTHER COUNTIES UP.
THERES MANY OTHER COUNTIES INVOLVED.
INVOLVED.
>> WE SHOULD TOLD FOUR IN YOUR COUNTY AND FOUR IN ANOTHER, AS
OF THIS MORNING, ACCORDING TO
THE "L.A. TIMES."
>> TWO IN SACRAMENTO AND TWO IN
VENTURA.
VENTURA.
OTHER CASES WILL BE FILED FROM OTHER COUNTIES, AS WELL.D FROM
OTHER COUNTIES, AS WELL. >> ANN MARIE, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> VERY WELCOME.
>> IT IS A TESTAMENT TO THE
DOGGED LAW ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS.