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>> Welcome everybody, this is Dave Vellante
And welcome to Storage Day, we're here at Amazon in Boston
and you're watching The Cube.
Wayne Duso is here he's the
general manager of a lot of stuff,
file, hybrid edge, transfer,
and data protection services at Amazon Web Services,
good to see you Wayne, thanks.
>> Good to see you.
>> So let's talk about,
that's a pretty vast portfolio that you have,
explain that to our audience.
>> Sure thing, so the portfolio that I'm responsible for
covers a vast swath of our storage portfolio at AWS.
So in that we cover all of our file services,
so that's EFS and FSX, our data transport services,
which includes DataSync, transfer for SFTP,
and our Snowball or Snow Services,
and then also hybrid edge,
which includes our Snowball Compute
and our storage gateway services,
and then data protection, which includes AWS backup.
>> Wow okay.
Great, congratulations on that portfolio,
and you know I said earlier on,
it started with S3 and it's just exploded now
into all these services,
this is part of what we sometimes call, tongue-in-cheek,
cloud 2.0, this is more workloads,
more capabilities, more granularity.
But talk about some of the big picture macro-trends
that you guys see in the marketplace
specific to sort of your area.
>> Yeah so, it actually is so many.
As you said, things are expanding,
things are accelerating in our space.
One of the things I like to talk about
with respect to our portfolio is,
we have storage services, data transport services
to match the needs of your workloads
and your applications.
So all of these services are purpose built
for the type of storage that you need,
the programming model that you need
for your applications and workloads.
So whether it's object storage with S3 in Glacier,
or block storage with EBS,
or most recently file service with EFS
and FSX file services.
So you have the tools at your disposal
that you need based on your application workloads.
>> Talk more about the programming model,
how do you envision that?
What are you, what's your mental model of the different...
>> Sure.
So forever people have been programming
based on whether it's performance
or some scale of some sort,
databases traditionally use block storage
because they don't need a lot of logic between them
and the storage medium itself.
File storage has been used for 50 years
and has a very specific programming model
that exists in every operating system
and every every programming language,
you know whether it's an open read write seek close,
it's a common paradigm that is used all over the place
and that capability
in the performance that you need
to satisfy those applications
and workloads is very specific.
And so for AWS, we provide those file systems for Linux,
if you would, with EFS, Windows, which is FSX for Windows,
and for very high performance computing on Lustre.
And we've had an amazing storage platform, which is S3.
And S3 forms the basis for
a lot of our customer's Data Lakes
and basically storage data repositories,
for which there are many integrations with that
through our other storage services.
>> I often joke that if your expertise is unpacking boxes,
plugging in, setting up storage arrays, managing LUNs,
you might want to think about updating your skill sets,
but that's the other big mega-trend that we certainly see
is people just don't see a lot of value
in planning and managing and migrating
over six month periods, storage arrays.
It's something that really doesn't
add a lot of value to the business,
so you guys have announced
all these services over the years,
and you've got some new announcements as well
that kind of play into some of the trends
that we've been talking about,
talk about the news.
>> Yeah so the news is pretty rich for this season.
Let's start off with FSX.
So FSX is our service for bringing fully managed,
third party or open source file systems to our customers.
So FSX, Windows for example
was launched last year at re:Invent,
and has been rolling out
a whole series of features throughout the year
and we have a nice set of features coming out this year.
So as an example,
today FSX Windows is a single AZ service,
we are rolling out multi-AZ capability.
>> Okay and sometimes you guys make the point that
the beauty is there's no change required in apps,
we talked earlier about the program (mumbles)
but talk a little bit more about that,
why is that important to customers?
>> You know, I'll index on FSX Windows for another minute,
a lot of apps have been written
to use the semantics of a particular file system,
in the case of Windows we'll say NTFS,
and they're written for that specific file system.
We've provided customers with the capability
of bringing those applications to AWS
without any worry of compatibility,
it's a pure lift and shift model.
So it makes it really easy for them
to bring their workloads,
they should bring their workloads
so that they don't have to deal with
some of the things you brought up earlier
around provisioning, buying systems,
having to worry about setting it up,
planning for all of that.
We take all of that work away from them
and they get full compatibility
based on what they need today.
And with some of the additional capabilities
we're bringing to bear
with the integrations in the ecosystem,
the AWS ecosystem,
they'll be able to appreciate those as well.
>> Let's talk a little bit about, more about that.
Because you're basically, I'm inferring you're saying
hey there's compelling reasons why you should move
into the cloud, for instance file services, into the cloud.
What's the difference between my on-prem,
is it just on-prem nah, stuffing it into the cloud?
Or is it more than that, you touched on integration,
so convince me, why should I move?
>> It's so much more than that.
So if we look at the basic infrastructure,
once you literally click three or four buttons
to start a file system, create a file system,
you no longer have to worry about it ever again.
So the things that you would've done on-prem
you no longer have to worry about
having a storage administrator or having to provision
and buy storage and maintain it.
We take care of all that,
we take care of all the security elements,
so important to your data to make sure
that's in a secure environment,
security is job number one for us.
So all of these capabilities,
the ability to stand it up, to never have to manage it,
never have to worry about the security,
we take care of all the capabilities.
You should really be bringing those workloads
onto a platform like this so that you can spend your time
on added value services or applications for your business.
>> Well and the integration is also a key piece of it,
I mean, you know, for years customers,
customers still sometimes want to roll their own,
they like to have the knobs and turn them.
But many customers that we talk to are saying
listen it's too expensive,
I don't want to be a systems integrator anymore.
In the cloud, how can they take advantage of those,
sometimes we call it the flywheel effect,
but the other innovations that you're bringing,
whether it's machine learning
or other services that you guys are bringing in,
is that, how tight is that integration?
>> So those integrations are ongoing and they're forever,
it goes back to what I said a minute ago around,
over a three year period, all of these capabilities
are going to be delivered to them,
if you would, at the same cost as the basic service,
so let's talk about what happened this year.
A lot of our customers are using SageMaker
for their ML and AI capabilities.
And SageMaker is deeply integrated
with both FSX Luster and EFS.
So that customers again don't have to worry about storage,
they don't have to worry about sharing,
they don't have to worry about scaling,
it's all there for them.
>> You mentioned also you're responsible
for the Snow products.
>> I am.
>> You mentioned on edge.
I always, to me it was your first move
to hybrid I'll call it,
but I always joked that, but it's true,
the fastest way to get data
from point A to point B is a Chevy truck.
But you're referring it as sort of an edge play,
maybe talk a little bit more about that,
help us understand it.
>> Sure, so SnowBall as a service,
was launched about five years ago,
and we initially launched the service
as a bulk data migration service.
And it's been that service for roughly four years.
About a year ago, little over a year ago,
we started introducing the ability to
have compute as part of that device,
and the reason for that was, customers were telling us,
as we're moving the data,
we would like to be able to do some pre-processing
before it makes it onto AWS,
before it goes into S3 as an example.
So we started providing that capability,
that ended up expanding into a full blown,
if you would, cloud platform on a device
that can be run in disconnected environments
or (mumbles) environments.
So with snowball today,
you have the ability to have EC2 instances,
EBS storage, S3 storage, all in one device.
And so that's a really powerful construct
because you can build your applications on AWS
using the same services, prove out, if you would,
a dev-ops model that they're what you need to be,
and then literally lift them onto a SnowBall device
and have those executing in the field
as if they were running directly in the cloud.
>> Changing subjects a little bit,
when I look at the logo slide of all your customers,
lot of big names on there, they're global companies.
You know, a lot of times people say, oh I run a cloud,
and they got a data center in East Boston or something.
No offense if you have a data center in East Boston,
but regions are critical, especially for global scale,
I mean, cloud brings global scale.
But it's also important to have data approximate
to the users so you're reducing latency,
visit availability and redundancy aspect,
talk about your philosophy around regions
and how it fits into your portfolio.
How do you take advantage of all that capability?
>> So a lot of our customers have global presence
and the ability for them to have their application,
to have their business function in the regions
that they're doing business,
and have those low latencies,
and also the availability model of being in multiple places
in case of disasters, super important.
Our regions are built to have,
at minimum three availability zones.
And an availability zone
you can think about as a data center.
So for example with EFS,
when you stand up a file system with EFS,
your file system is automatically distributed,
replicated across all three availability zones
within that region.
But as the user, you don't worry about any of that,
we take care of it all for you.
And if, in the unfortunate event that
an availability zone is made unavailable,
your data is still fine,
you still have access to that data all the time.
>> Yeah and your customers are, I think,
increasingly understanding this,
they're beginning to architect around regions
and availability zones.
It's a different way of thinking,
but it's in some respects sort of a modern way of thinking.
>> Yeah if you go back a few years
and you think about all the disaster recovery
or business continuance software
and capabilities that had been created,
we're providing all of those capabilities today
in our regional construct.
>> Yeah, we'll you know this,
we've both been around for a while
and we've seen the unnatural acts that you had to do
to sort of create that level of redundancy
in business continuance,
and it was extremely expensive, complex,
and really risky to test.
So I'll leave you with the last word,
any other thoughts that you want to share with our audience?
>> Well we're just,
first I'll thank you for giving me the time today,
we're really excited about what we're doing
with each of these services,
we're very excited about the portfolio overall,
and the value that it's going to bring
bring to our customers today.
We're excited about all the announcements and...
>> Yeah we're seeing a lot of innovation,
expansion of the Amazon portfolio,
optionality, granularity, performance,
horse for courses the right tool for the right job,
Wayne thanks so much for coming on The Cube.
>> My pleasure, thank you.
>> All right, you're welcome.
All right, keep it right there everybody,
You're watching The Cube,
Storage Day from Amazon in Boston.
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