Hi guys, thanks for tuning in to another video on ForgottenWeapons.com.
I'm Ian McCollum, and today I have got my hands on a Dead Air Wolfman suppressor.
And you may recall a little while back I did a bunch of video
on three separate pistol calibre carbines that are out in the US.
And so I brought them all back out to the range today,
and I want to see how each of the three of them handles a 9mm suppressor.
So I have down here my CMMG Banshee 9mm AR,
my SP5 9mm HK, and my Kalashnikov USA KP-9 9mm AK.
We have our Dead Air Wolfman. This is a two part suppressor.
I could take the front end off if I want it to be a little more compact,
but I'm just going to leave it at the full size thing.
And the ammo I am shooting is the same in all the guns. It is going to be S&B 150 grain subsonic.
So one of the issues with a suppressor is if your projectiles are supersonic,
then no matter how good the suppressor is you will still hear a supersonic crack of the bullet,
and that can be pretty darn loud.
Once we have subsonic ammunition, then you can really get an idea for
how effective the suppressor really is in containing the blast at the muzzle of the gun.
So I'm curious to see, first off, if these exhibit any sort of difference in sound.
Which I wouldn't really expect given they're the same ammo and the same suppressor,
and they're basically the same barrel length as well.
But then also if these guns exhibit any other different characteristics.
For example, ... are any of them going to blow more or less gas back in my face as the shooter?
Anything like that.
So this thing's already getting hot just sitting out here in the Arizona sun, so I'll be grabbing some gloves.
And let's start with the AK.
Right, all three of these have 1/2" x 28 pitch threads.
And so ... this can just direct thread onto all of them.
There we go.
Oh, that stock's already getting hot.
Well, it at least feeds a flat-nosed subsonic 150.
Holy cow, that is quiet. Alright, I wasn't sure. I'm going to go ahead and pull my ears out.
That is not substantially loud.
If you haven't ever used a really good suppressor like this,
you might actually be taken aback by how loud the cycling of the gun itself is.
It's not unpleasant, not uncomfortable to the ear. But man, it really is loud.
Now I'm also noticing a little bit of a change in zero. Suppressors will often do that.
They won't make your group larger or smaller, assuming you don't have a rubber ... wipe in them.
However, they can adjust where your group is. And in this case I'm hitting low on a gun that was pretty darn well zeroed.
Alright, I have not fired all of this, but I'm now really curious to see how this handles on my other guns.
Here we go.
Alright.
I think this sounds slightly quieter with just action noise than the AK did.
It is not blowing any gas back in my face at all, or at least none that I can discern.
The AK gave me just a little bit.
And interestingly this does not appear to have had any substantial zero shift from the suppressor,
which is a little bit unusual. But it stayed dead on.
Also surprising if you haven't done it before, just how loud a 9mm bullet hitting a steel target at 50 yards is.
Let's go ahead and try the third gun, which is of course the Banshee, the AR.
I want to limit this a little bit, so the suppressor does not get so hot that I can't handle it even with these gloves.
Which, oh, it's starting to get pretty toasty.
Welcome to Arizona. Turn up the brightness on your red dot.
Alright, so once again we have the MEAN Arms converted magazines. It's a PMAG body but handles 9mm.
One of my concerns was will these all feed these subsonic bullets?
Because it's a very blunt (I can show you right there),
that's a very blunt flat-nosed sort of bullet design
in order to get the mass of 150 grains into a 9mm bullet.
Alright.
Crazy, you can hear ricochets too. When the bullets hit and then tumble, whether they hit a hard backstop or a steel target.
And that's something you don't normally hear because first off you've got ear plugs in
for obvious reasons.
And because the crack of the actual gunshot ... you don't hear that because it's overwhelmed by the gunshot itself.
So that's steel. Here's a dirt backstop sound.
Thunk, thunk, thunk.
So there is no gas system on the Banshee, because it is a radial delayed blowback system.
However, I am getting a little bit of gas back in my face with this.
I would say this and the AK are pretty well on par.
This has also no zero shift at all.
So it's actually only the AK that has, which
makes me kind of wonder if my ... optic has lost zero over there, but.
There is actually an easy way to test that out, we can do some shooting without the suppressor on.
But,
very pleasant all three of them.
I have to go back to the SP5 for a few rounds.
Also, very important when you're shooting multiple guns ... with one shared suppressor,
when you go to change guns, don't forget to change the suppressor,
especially if you don't have ear plugs in, or you will have an unpleasant surprise.
Wooh, that thing's still toasty. Weirdly, it's not getting any cooler as I shoot it more.
Thunk.
Out of ammo.
But that's why I brought more.
Alright, I'm trying for the spinner.
I'm just not able to quite pull off the spinner today.
Looking at it, I think one of the arms of the spinner may have come loose, but,
no excuse just off hand with this gun, or offhand with any gun at this range, um, nyah,
on the spinner, but.
I know you guys are all going to have seen this one coming, but I really have to say
the SP5 is my favourite with that suppressor.
It's kind of my favourite without the suppressor too.
I'm out of ammo again.
Well, I would like to give a big thanks to Dead Air for the suppressor here to do some playing with.
Hopefully you guys enjoyed this. I think it was interesting to look at the three side by side.
We might have had some slightly different results had the AR pattern been a direct gas impingement gun.
As a ... delayed blowback, it's going to have kind of the same sort of
effect as the roller-delayed HK and the simple blowback AK.
Where basically, ... you have more pressure developing in the suppressor
there is going to be more pressurised gas retained in the barrel when the cartridge actually gets extracted.
And so you're going to have more gas coming out the back as well as the front,
because the suppressor creates that extra back pressure.
So, very happy to see that all three of these ran flawlessly with this 150 grain S&B subsonic ammo.
That was one of my big questions, but nary a problem with any of them.
Like I said, hopefully you guys enjoyed the video.
Thanks for watching.
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