RICHEL STRATTON: I don't feel good in this room at all.
BRIAN MURRAY: You OK?
Nope.
Step out of the room them.
The activity has changed out here at Madison Seminary
dramatically.
It feels aggressive at times.
It feels negative.
Honestly, I'm finding a hard time even describing it.
Some visitors have even been physically assaulted.
[dramatic music]
BRIAN MURRAY: Are you trying to let Richel know something?
Are you trying to get her attention?
Are you being mistreated?
How you doing in there?
I'm not doing great.
BRIAN MURRAY: So Richel and I entered
what looked like an operating room in the asylum.
She started feeling a heavy presence,
and it looked like she started to get ill.
So we tried to carry on with the investigation,
but at that point, when I saw that she was clearly in pain,
the investigation part stops for me.
Are you going to be OK?
Yeah.
It's about getting over there and making sure she's
good to go, and I will do whatever it takes
to take that away from her.
If there's something that you're wanting to say to Richel,
you can say it to me too.
There's a flashing light in there, like up on this--
Where?
It keeps flashing right there, like,
in between those two marks.
Oh.
Was that your stomach?
- Did you hear that? - Was that your stomach?
That was not my stomach.
It sounded like a man with an ice pick.
RICHEL STRATTON: Yeah.
[inaudible]
BRIAN MURRAY: Put the headphones on and listen to me.
I'll stay in here.
So after hearing the moan in the asylum,
we decided to focus on the operating
room again, and this time we both felt the heavy presence.
Pull through, man.
You got it? RICHEL STRATTON: Yeah.
BRIAN MURRAY: You tell me-- if you need to get out of here,
we'll get out of here.
[buzzing]
It's going off.
It is.
RICHEL STRATTON: It's going off.
BRIAN MURRAY: If you're in this room,
please, if you could just let Richel be, and you can do--
you can tell me what you need.
Did you hear something again?
It sounded like a door shutting.
BRIAN MURRAY: OK, which way?
Because I heard it down that way.
RICHEL STRATTON: I did too.
Man, oh, man.
[exhale]
I'm coming down the hallway right now.
[exhale]
OK, I think you're running from us.
[exhale] I'm telling you, man, I have the goosebumps
like you can't even believe.
It's super heavy in here.
I feel completely uncomfortable down here.
I don't get feelings like this.
I'm not an investigator that relies
on those kind of feelings, and I'm getting them right now.
I've never had them before.
I have to go.
[inaudible]
I got to go.
GRANT WILSON: I think we may have found
some interesting things about why
this place may have felt like it turned negative
over the past few months.
We sent in a couple teams, and they had
some pretty wild experiences.
The first team, Brian and Richel,
they were up in the asylum area.
[buzzing]
RICHEL STRATTON: I don't feel good in this room.
BRIAN MURRAY: You OK?
No.
GRANT WILSON: Richel was starting
to feel sick and nauseous, like something outside of herself.
So we're starting to understand where you're
at here with the discomfort.
We're starting to see this.
BRIAN MURRAY: If there's something
that you're wanting to say to Richel,
you could say it to me too.
GRANT WILSON: And, of course, Brian started taking offense
to that, like, hey, come on.
Don't do that to her.
Do it to me.
Can you tell me who's hurting you?
GRANT WILSON: And I think this thought of all the stuff that
may have gone on here started to hit him,
and he kind of got off his game.
Because we came in, we heard the stories
of how people were mistreated here,
and our heads were filled with that.
So what I'm saying is that if we come
in here with the wrong mentality,
we're not helping the entity.
We're not furthering this process,
and that's starting to fight back.
And that's probably why you're feeling this way, why your team
is feeling a little off.
And I think if you change that mentality,
they'll fall in love with this place again.
So I think the goal for you would be,
let's find out the real history.
Let's do it justice.
Let's only operate on the truth.
Let's not let our own fear get in the way
of helping the people who may still be here.