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>>> DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM.
WE HAVE 11 MILLION PEOPLE WHO
NEED A PATHWAY TO LEADERSHIP BUT
WE’RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT OUT
OF THIS PRESIDENT.
WHAT WE’RE NOT GOING TO GET OUT
OF THIS PRESIDENT IS SOMEONE WHO
APPROACHES PEOPLE FLEEING THE
MURDER CAPITALS OF THE WORLD AND
DOES WHAT IS REFLECTIVE OF
AMERICAN VALUES, WHICH IS
UNDERSTAND THE STRENGTH OF OUR
ARMS TO EMBRACE PEOPLE WHO ARE
FLEEING HARM.
FLEEING HARM. NO, THAT’S NOT WHAT THIS
PRESIDENT DOES.
PRESIDENT DOES. THEY ARRIVE AT OUR BORDER AND HE
SAYS, GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME
FROM.
FROM. CAME FROM.
CAME FROM. THAT IS NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE
VALUES OF WHO WE ARE AS
AMERICANS.
AMERICANS. >> SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS
APPEALING TO OUR HEARTS AND OUR
MINDS AND OUR COMMON SENSE
CALLING OUT THE SHEER INHUMANITY
OF THE PRESIDENT’S POLICIES
GIVING US A PREVIEW OF THE
CONVICTION AND CANDOR WE WILL
SEE NEXT WEEK FROM HER ON THE
DEBATE STAGE.
DEBATE STAGE. I THINK THAT EVERY TIME SHE IS
SORT OF IN FRONT OF A CAMERA OR
SORT OF PRESENTING ANYTHING, SHE
NAILS IT.
NAILS IT. MY QUESTION FOR YOU AS SOMEONE
WHO WORKED WITH HER, WHAT DOES
THAT LOOK LIKE BEHIND THE
SCENES?
SCENES? >> SHE’S GOT A REALLY GOOD GUT,
A POLITICAL GUT.
AND SHE DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO
COMMUNICATE FORCEFULLY AND
CLEARLY AND WITH MORAL CLARITY.
AND THAT’S GOING TO BE REALLY
IMPORTANT.
IMPORTANT. AND SHE KIND OF NEEDS TO HAVE A
BREAKOUT MOMENT.
BREAKOUT MOMENT. SHE NEEDS TO SOMEHOW -- AND
THAT’S THE SCARY THING ABOUT
THIS DEBATE FOR ALL THESE
CANDIDATES.
CANDIDATES. IF YOU’RE GOING TO GET, WHAT,
MAYBE A TOTAL OF EIGHT MINUTES,
MAYBE?
MAYBE? >> IF YOU’RE LUCKY.
>> SO HOW DO YOU BREAK THROUGH
WITHOUT MAKING A FOOL OF
YOURSELF?
YOURSELF? HOW DO YOU PUSH THE ENVELOPE AND
STAND OUT WITHOUT PEOPLE
DISMISSING YOU AND SMELLING THAT
THIS IS YOU TRYING TO STAND OUT?
IT’S A REALLY BIG CHALLENGE, BUT
KAMALA, I THINK KAMALA WILL DO
WELL.
WELL. I THINK SHE’S USED TO -- WHEN
YOU’VE BEEN IN THE COURTROOM AND
YOU HAVE TO THINK ON YOUR FEET
AND YOU HAVE TO NOT KNOW WHAT
THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE OR
WHAT THE ANSWER’S GOING TO BE, I
THINK IT GIVES YOU A CERTAIN
AMOUNT OF CONFIDENCE THAT SHE
HAS THAT WILL SERVE HER WELL IN
THE DEBATE.
THE DEBATE. AND BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW, SHE
WAS ON OUR COMMITTEE FOR
HOMELAND SECURITY AND GOVERNMENT
AFFAIRS.
AFFAIRS. SO SHE IS VERY WELL VERSED IN
THESE IMMIGRATION ISSUES BECAUSE
WE HAD SO MANY HEARINGS ON THEM.
AND SHE KNOWS WHAT ALL OF US
KNOW THAT UNDERSTAND THIS
SUBJECT MATTER.
SUBJECT MATTER. YOU CAN’T DEPORT MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. AT THE RATE YOU’RE GOING, I
THINK THEY DID THE CALCULATION.
AT THE RATE HE’S DOING ON
DEPORTATION, IT WOULD TAKE 24
YEARS TO GET TO MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. SO THIS IS ANOTHER LIE.
THERE’S NOT JAIL SPACE.
THEY HAVE 60,000 BEDS.
THEY CAN’T -- THERE’S NOT ENOUGH
JAIL SPACE TO DEPORT ALL THESE
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. SO IT IS A CRUEL LIE MEANT TO
SCORE CHEAP POLITICAL POINTS OF
RESENTMENT AND TO SCARE A WHOLE
LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON’T DESERVE
TO BE SCARED.
>> WHICH HAS NO CHANCE OF DOING
ANYTHING ABOUT ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION.
IMMIGRATION. JOE BIDEN IN THE NEWS AND NOT
FOR GOOD REASONS.
JOE BIDEN RECALLING CIVILITY
INCENTED.
INCENTED. MR. BIDEN SPEAKING AT A
FUNDRAISER AT THE CARLISLE HOTEL
IN NEW YORK CITY ON TUESDAY
NIGHT STRESSED THE NEED TO BE
ABLE TO REACH CONSENSUS UNDER
OUR SYSTEM AND CAST HIS DECADES
IN THE SENATE AS A TIME OF
RELATIVE -- AT THE END MR. BIDEN
NOTED THAT HE SERVED WITH THE
LATE SENATORS JAMES O. EASTLAND
AND TALMADGE.
AND TALMADGE. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. SO, LET’S PUT POLITICS ASIDE FOR
A SECOND.
A SECOND. WHAT HE SAID IS JUST WRONG.
AND WHEN YOU JUXTAPOSITION WITH
THE DAY THAT WE ARE GOING
THROUGH TODAY, WHICH IS TODAY IS
JUNETEENTH, WHICH IS WE ARE
CELEBRATING, ACKNOWLEDGING, THE
END OF SLAVERY.
THE HOUSE JUDICIARY SUBCOMMITTEE
JUST HELD THEIR FIRST HEARING ON
REPARATIONS.
REPARATIONS. AND WHAT HE’S REMEMBERING FONDLY
IS THE TIME WHEN THE BODY OF THE
SENATE WAS PRIMARILY WHITE AND
MALE, AND THEY WERE WORKING
OVERTIME TO DENY THE RIGHTS OF
PEOPLE OF COLOR, TO DENY THE
RIGHTS OF WOMEN.
AND THIS IS WHAT WAS HAPPENING
DURING THE TIME THAT HE’S
REMEMBERING FONDLY.
REMEMBERING FONDLY. AND THAT’S INCREDIBLY
PROBLEMATIC FOR SO MANY PEOPLE.
AND ALSO IT PUTS -- IT REALLY
CONTRASTS WHAT YOU SAY HIS --
I’VE HEARD YOU SAY THIS SO MANY
TIMES, THE TWO-BY-FOUR THAT HE
DID WITH HIS ANNOUNCEMENT, USING
THAT SHORTSVILLE VIDEO WHERE HE
PUT HIMSELF AS THE BARRIER
AGAINST FEAR, AGAINST BEING ON
THE RIGHT SIDE OF THINGS.
AND IT COUNTERS THAT.
AND IT’S INCREDIBLY PROBLEMATIC.
>> CAN I THROW DICK CHENEY IN
THE MIX JUST TO MAKE A BROADER
POINT?
POINT? WHEN I WORKED FOR BUSH AND
CHENEY, PEOPLE USED TO SAY WHAT
DO YOU THINK OF DICK CHENEY?
AND PEOPLE WOULD SAY, WELL, I
HATE EVERYTHING HE STANDS FOR.
BUT WHEN I SEE HIM, WE ASK EACH
OTHER ABOUT OUR FAMILIES.
LIKE, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS
ANY CHANCE HE WAS SAYING I HATE
WHAT THESE MEN STOOD FOR BUT I
WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM?
IS THERE A POSSIBILITY FOR THAT
IN YOUR MIND?
>> BUT HE DIDN’T SAY THAT.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY. SO I LOOKED INTO THIS BECAUSE I
WAS ON OUR EMAIL SERVER WITH
PEOPLE SENDING IN CORRECTIONS
AND ALSO ANITA DUNN WHO WAS
LATER IN THE CONTEXT WAS HE DID
SAY THAT THEY WERE MEAN AND HE
DIDN’T AGREE WITH THEM ON
ANYTHING.
ANYTHING. BUT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT A TIME
WHEN THE SENATE FUNCTION, NOT SO
MUCH HARKENING BACK TO A
PARTICULAR DAY OR CULTURE,
ANYTHING OTHER THAN A
FUNCTIONING SENATE.
FUNCTIONING SENATE. >> -- ON CIVIL RIGHT RIGHTS.
HE FOUGHT THEM ON CIVIL RIGHTS.
HE WORKED AGAINST THEM ON CIVIL
RIGHTS.
RIGHTS. I AGREE WITH YOU IT WAS A BAD
MOMENT FOR HIM TO CALL THEM UP.
WE’RE PRAISING SEGREGATIONISTS
HERE.
HERE. >> I’M GOING TO GIVE YOU ALL THE
TIME -- I JUST WANT TO READ THE
QUOTE AGAIN.
QUOTE AGAIN. I DON’T WANT TO GET TOO FAR FROM
THE LANGUAGE.
THE LANGUAGE. STRESSED THE NEED TO, QUOTE, BE
ABLE TO REACH CONSENSUS UNDER
OUR SYSTEM, CAST HIS DECADES IN
THE SENATE AS A TIME WHEN THEY
COULD DO THAT.
HE NOTED THAT HE SERVED WITH THE
LATE SENATORS EASTLAND AND
TALMADGE, BOTH SENATORS WHO WERE
STAUNCH -- OF DESEGGACHQ I AM
JUST SAYING ARE YOU OPEN TO ANY
EXPLANATION -- I DISAGREE, I
HEARD IT ALL THE TIME.
I DISAGREE WITH EVERYTHING.
I MEAN, JIM MAKES THIS POINT,
IT’S HARD TO HATE UP CLOSE.
>> I KNOW JOE BIDEN, I KNOW HIM
PRETTY WELL.
PRETTY WELL. I THINK HE’S A GOOD GUY.
I LOVE THE GUY.
RIGHT?
RIGHT? BUT THERE IS THIS QUESTION OF
THIS GENERATIONAL GAP.
AND I THINK THIS IS WHAT IT
PLAYS TO.
PLAYS TO. PEOPLE WANT -- LIKE, THE
CHARLOTTESVILLE WHERE HE BROUGHT
UP CHARLOTTESVILLE IN THAT
OPENING VIDEO, THAT’S WHAT
PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR MORE OF.
BUT WHEN YOU TAKE US BACK TO A
TIME THAT’S REALLY, REALLY DARK.
I KNOW HE IS TALKING ABOUT
BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
BUT TO BRING UP THOSE NAMES, I
THINK IS JUST -- RIGHT, EXACTLY.
>> AND AS A POSTSCRIPT AS MUCH
AS THE IDEA OF BIPARTISAN SOUNDS
LIKE A GOOD IDEA, THAT IS FROM
THE DEMOCRATS.
THE DEMOCRATS. THE DEMOCRATS WANT TO FIGHT.
THEY DO NOT WANT TO REACH ACROSS
THE AISLE AND SHAKE HANDS.
>> I’M NOT SURE --
>> BUT THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY --
>> AND LET ME JUST SAY JOE BIDEN
IS NOT GETTING CREDIT FOR ONE
THING.
THING. NOBODY HAS WRITTEN THIS UP.
I HAVE NEVER KNOWN A
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE TO INVITE
THE PRESS POOL INTO EVERY
FUNDRAISER, EVERY LIVING ROOM,