oh we want to kick it to questions yeah let's take it all a question to Facebook
you got questions ask now let me actually address all the questions you
want all the question anything everything let me man i'm going to get a
ticket I'm going to get a ticket in half an hour and they're like these tickets
there were like five thousand dollars in this way so let me uh find questions
Brad got which asked questions asked questions I think we actually answer
release earlier some paper inhibitor this is from Twitter apron entered the
way paper now we answered on the third party t we also answered ken Panzers
question about rising quad-core configured you know 2 plus 2 3 plus 3
also we got questions about the hd2 intel term horizon ships that have been
floating around these are just rumors josh scott bradley wants to know about
it what's up with these high-performance rising what can you say about that Brad
ah nothing Indy has an event announce them but the rumors going around our
that AMD is working on they call it according to the rumors X 3 99 platform
which is a funny because Intel's called x 99 but platform for like higher end
chips kind of equivalent to broad well II on the Intel flood and the rumor
being that they're working on a what was it 16 for Cameron courtship 32 threads
chip for around a thousand dollars is the rumor going around right now and II
said nothing about it but you know rumors going on about it who knows if
it's actually going to exist I mean Naples for servers is 32 cores right you
know so I mean there's plenty of room between eight cores and 32 cores so I
would expect something to go in there somewhere at some time but
so that x 13 x 3 99 chipset is really what they're going to call us or the
rumor mill says that's what the rumor mill says but i mean if you think about
it right we have a intel of things right now are we have z 270 right in the condo
and ease is x 370 and they also have be 250 if so AMD did be 350 man that was
kind of just dump it on their name 399 doesn't sound too unrealistic do me
right now that kind of makes sense because the rumors are intel's going to
introduce their new x 2 99 chipset the summer the summer time frame with the
new sky lake XOR K be late or whatever heck so that I just hate I didn't I did
I not put that together like man that is that is like that's kind of mean that's
just sort of confuses people right so they actually we also have right risin
five rises three rights and seven just like core i3 core i5 core i7 yeah and
you know until stole that from BMW so your condition to go 753 I mean that
really is what it goes back to using like do you know three is is not as good
as five you know a five series and if you really got the money you got your
your 7-series Beemer so okay now you'll see that's the rumor going around right
now I mean it makes sense to me for a 16-core part I mean if they're already
doing you know eight core parts and they can do 32 core parts then it makes sense
that 16 would fit right in there so uh but who knows they haven't officially
announced anything yet so right and that's the question I want to give a
shout out to him John shaft as we know of the famous detective would you expect
Naples again a core 16 thread or 12-core and with a a core or with quad channel
memory yeah who knows right naples had they talked about memory configuration
for Naples I think it is quad on that but um it's actually I mean Naples is
pretty over the I mean it's insane Naples is to be a cop and whatever all
the haters on on rising seven rising five Naples like
damn so 32 cores yeah yeah oh yeah so yeah it'd be sweet it'd be funny if they
do dua and desktop you know different platform the rise in 1900 X or whatever
then they named it stomp on Intel stuff again that'd be funny you know I
wouldn't be surprised if it does happen but they haven't announced anything else
yeah I kind of say ma'am if if if md had a high-end desktop part like 12 core
that was reasonably priced I'd be like a chip for me because like I eight cores
are awesome like I could use two more I mean it doesn't it's hard it's hard to
say you need more than 16 because a lot of a lot of applications in fact even 10
cores kind of stretching it but if you're doing a lot of things at the same
time tank or 12-core it's awesome to have its really awesome have it is quad
cores they don't cut it for me so if they do that that might be the part for
me and I'm sure there will be concerns over gaming performance but I you know I
don't I'm not going to be worried about that with Maya 1080p are any questions
from Facebook oh yeah we got plenty of from facebook we have a good sisters at
from an Oni intel core i7 7700 k 4.2 gigahertz socket 1150 one or AMD FX
series fx-9590 4.78 XO a.m. pick one pick one like it is that a choice
because i like there's there's more there look I know people say i'ma FX
hater I'm just sorry it's just past his prime if you're saying like that
question is not correct it should be how many 700k versus what was you saying
fx-9590 oh yeah I'm sorry no they don't want the 95 I have a 95 90 it works in
like three motherboards no no you do the kb lake there i think what if you're
asking that question it really should be 7700 k or 8370 and gtx you know 1070
cards because there's there's a price disparity you're getting more money more
value by going AMD but no clearly 77 okay the Waco and frankly wait for these
rising parts I mean I don't know alright the naked truth on youtube says why do
all the AMD motherboards look cheap and low quality hey I you know tonight I
hear what you say Brett what do you think Brad uh I mean there's still young
chipsets one I don't think there's that cheap and mo quality I mean I like it I
agree i could hear what you're saying but like the msi titanium board if you
hold it up next to the kb lake one I mean there that's why I did at CES and
there you know pretty comparable and I have the gigabytes gaming 5x x5
something like that here and I like the board I mean it's got LEDs and I'm
infatuated with it yeah but I do kind of hear what you say because I see yes I
thought they looked a little unpolished a little just a little bit the final
boards are better but yeah I think what you're really seeing is this is a young
platform you know kind of members e270 is it's just Z 170 which is not a huge
difference and they've had a lot of time to add tons and tons of features and do
all the polish marketing and get you to pay for all these LEDs this will happen
with rising boards as well I mean I doubt these these they're just not as
ensure they will get better they are a little rougher a little rougher but I
don't think once it's in your box with all the video cards and all your LEDs on
anybody will ever notice so yeah there's so many people in the chat screaming
about when will the AMD motherboard shortage go away I actually it's funny I
have a guy here in town who he's got a guy so a fan there's a guy here in town
who has been waiting for months for his rise and stuff right every time I go
into his place of business he talks to me hey man rises coming out right is
coming out i got all my water cool with stuff i got my cool was ready and ready
to go he's been ready for months and he still has been unable to purchase a
motherboard so he's sitting there with thousands of dollars with the parts just
waiting for your motherboard she's no ma'am I mean how long does he have the
part i mean the chip so right now honey oh really is it so pre-ordered
that is probably for what two weeks now and a half weeks hi I did talk to a bore
bender and they said we've got thousands is a term coming autoships they're
basically on containers there are containers full of them coming over from
Asia so I think it will get better i would give it you know maybe a month a
couple months I mean ships don't exactly move fast though I in it so it's
probably hard to estimate for a board render how many boards we need and then
clearly you know there are you know they want to make sure the latest bios is on
there so I you know it should get better than this I mean this has happened with
other launches too and like we said earlier they're going to be focusing on
pushing more be 350 motherboards out for the horizon 5 lunch so hopefully we'll
see some more motherboards around then right now if you look around if you
don't mind skipping X 370 and going probably 350 you can still buy fine to
be 350 boards today and as long as you don't plan on doing uh you know like
crossfire or sli it's probably good enough for most people so yeah I guess
37 days and severe shortage but be 350 can still be found out there and the
sushi fuse are more affordable too right yeah yeah they're like the step between
the mainstream it's the right below enthusiast great I think Andy called it
now let me look at the slide here so where's coolers have been a problem 2
i've heard from several people who are not having any luck gettin am poor
coolers or cooling brackets for their existing parts but I mean this is still
you know it's only been out for a couple of weeks so okay and the B through Z
does support overclocking which is good that's you're not locked into the only
by Z series for that kind of stuff and really it looks like what so you lose
crossfire you do step down just for SATA ports versus just to bite verses 46 on
the X 370 and then you also lose a couple of PCI Elaine's off the chipset
too so but you know unless you're running crazy amounts of i/o and storage
it's probably fine yeah I hope wait in soon I mean this is like it was the same
deal when the geforce cards came out right everyone's like oh man i want to
go to GT x 1080 I want to get a GTX 970 is the same thing with the Radeon RX for
80s you couldn't find them for a while if people have been waiting 12 by these
and I think that's much more so the case with risin ships than it was with those
graphics cards so I'm not surprised to see some shortages hopefully they you
know go away soon because then people can actually have the systems they want
yeah and honestly you gotta remember this is a good thing yes the bad thing
is like oh we got containers full of these X 370 boards and ain't no one
buying them so the package Gators a shortage is probably a good thing for
AMD so too bad that you can buy as many chips like you can find those chips
everywhere in stock but if everything around him you can't buy man i saw want
a slick deals I put it out to Elena well I wish was here but she's sick because
he's built she's an in-house cheapskate data horizon 7 1704 like 279 but yeah
should have said that to me yeah but you know I was like God but it turns out
that it was you know it goes back to me bae thing so go but still i mean that's
that's that's a damn good deal yeah two more quick questions little anthony on
youtube s when will we see rising laptops again I think the roadmap is
probably end of this year ish for a mobile app rising park so when those
designs get out and laptops are a lot more complicated to build an a
motherboard so i'd give it probably ND your launch hopefully you know everybody
wants to make the holiday season / christmas as we can say in some parts
and they've not it'll probably show up at CES if they can't get it you know
hammer down time all right respect in the second half of this year is when
they're going to have AP use based off risin right and raven writings that
those tend to be in laptops much more so than AMD's desktop parts like this like
rising itself so i wouldn't expect them to be out before the AP use you know
it'll be interesting to see what the core count is on those two so but i
guess they'd be native quad still right because it still be a single CCX but who
knows how those are delighted we don't know where do you get it we are rapidly
running out of the lime last one from youtube nanny
how do you feel about buying games day one do usually wait for the bugs to be
ironed out or do you like to buy them on day one ran I very I'm in a unique
situation because I test a lot of games because I'm the game's editor but what I
typically do is I don't buy day one unless it's one of the like three or
four franchises that I really really really really love uh and even then i
still wait for reviews i don't pre-order if you can wait i mean if you don't mind
not having the latest and greatest games if you wait able to wait 3-6 months we
prob updates to come out for the polish to shine up maybe a couple things with
dlc you can find games a lot cheaper and a lot better state than they weren't
launched if you don't mind waiting a lot of people per patient gamers on on and
on reddit there's called patient gamers where it's all you know people who wait
a year whatever to get the game of the year edition wait even longer there's a
lot to be said board if you don't mind you know not talking about the game on
reddit or whatever I i have an opposing opinion on this although according your
near I'm sorry you're not allowed to answer you you're not a gamer you just
play World War no I cuz I right now it's my I get to play one game I semi feeling
on on on day one in fact i preorder the games that i'm hyped about because i
like to do it now i'm going to make here's a good analogy for you you know
what I know where this is going no you don't i think i do not take a day one
let me say i lined up so we want to go see Star Wars what robe one right we saw
that on day one we lined up right in the freezing cold for hours to go to rogue
one lesson we go into this we did we did we did we even slept fried chicken into
the theater so we go in there the theater is packed you know they got the
organ going and everybody is just so high because it's it's a Star Wars movie
that doesn't suck right so it's like the experience and you go back on monday and
you're like yeah we saw rogue one now you
Rad's method like yeah I'm waiting about a month to go see it you know like I
like it when there's other people in the theater I want experience it like so
like a month later you see rug one and then you're like hey you want to talk
about rogue one is like no man what the hell that came out a month ago you can
see that till now where you just buy the DVD right sounds like you want you want
to get in the hype you you want the excitement of playing that game when
it's new and everything everybody in chat is excited they're complaining
about all the bugs you've lived through all the bugs I have day one now how does
an experience that is worth money for uh yeah you could wait a year or you could
wait five years or you emulate it later on down the phone on your phone or
something but you know it's nice to get in day one Gordon loves bugs yeah
meanwhile meanwhile just people who bought no man's sky are real happy that
they waited a year if they buying it now well yes I mean my strategy does not
always work I I always bought battlefield every single one pre-ordered
after battlefield 4 I said no more and I did not preorder battlefield one but
yeah it has yeah it has pity and I will say the same thing my wife and I we
dressed up in costumes to go see Indiana Jones the Crystal Skull oh that was a
failure that was like we took the day off we got on the costume to see the
work Indiana Jones having a heartbreaking experience yeah that cat
that can happen to you know that that is the risk to buying on day one or
pre-order that's the same experience or you could be like Brad and be safe wait
for all I'm gonna read the review in the Atlantic for archos yet whatever alright
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