you know second aspect to this you see when i introduced all these various personalities i
was trying to keep the magical mystical side to the minimum because i want to present a
real a religion in the modern format it doesn't challenge our common sense and rationality i try
to keep myself my feet on the ground as much as possible it is not always been possible but anyway
i've tried now let me look at the way you see this ramakrishna is full of this kind of dynamic ideas
fully kind of charged up with spirituality keen to present this keen to pass this on
to various people who become the carriers of this message of very broad message
of religion he's keen and the youngsters begin to arrive some householders joining
again you see this ramakrishna is very keen that these youngsters test him to the full
you know why he knows that he's going to be here for a short time then he will go and the
youngster to carry on the work if the youngsters this disciple that he chooses has some have some
niggling doubt about him they can't do a proper job so while he's around let them come and test
him let them really come and check him out thoroughly left right and center he was very
keen and this his disciples readily did of course the most popular disciple is swami vivekananda
and he hears all these things i tell you how rough this viva concern is on ramakrishna how for
six years he challenged his master and everybody at every stage he would not agree with anything
and yet this master was wow i like this chap he's asking me said good question just give an example
how sharp he was when this wrong question oh i can see the mother goddess divine mother he said
this is all imagination then wrong question but she talks to me that's two imaginations
this is very frightful now ramakrishna loves his viewer and he knows he's establishing rationality
he's a he's a dynamo a powerful rationalist and he goes you know he got rattled ramakrishna
could rattle he ran into the temple like you know little chap shuddering when of
course went to the mother goddess checked up and he came out smiling he said eurasco
the language between good and disciple this is the language they were using you rascal
you rattle me i checked up with mother god she said this guy will later on agree with what you
are saying for the time being tell him that he's got it wrong because the very thing that
appears is the material world because more clearly visible as these gods and goddesses so you're not
dealing with some scary very second-rate thing you're dealing with something that is much more
grander than the material world that you see and he will admit to it later on don't worry
so this is how the master and disciple are interacting
one day you see this ramakrishna after it you know remember those days when you take a rupee and
some play and say rupee clay i can't distinguish and pour them both into the water from that day
on here he was not he had decided not to touch money physically now he's a stickler for truth
so if he says he will not touch money he means it literally means it
you see look at his feet there is no ornament there is no gold there is nothing
so question of touching money is out of the way out of the question now this narendra i
see he's not going to let him off so one day he went to dakshineshwar and ramakrishna was away
he said okay perfect time to test he took out one rupee coin placed it under the mattress not
on top under the mattress test him thoroughly see what what level of sensitivity this guy is
and this ram krsna came back in he looks at him goes into immediate ecstasy ah you are here he was
in a mood and he sat down on his bed and he jumped up as if a scorpion had you know beaten him jumped
up and everybody said what happened you know some insect what bitten bitten this man so they
took out the mattress and out popped the coin fell on the floor and vicar of looking like this
look at him this is good carry on my boy continue to test me to the full literally test me at every
stage and this would happen the other it will happen the other way around too once just to
to test this guy you see ram question of this at the name of vivekananda he would go into ecstasy
the moment starts with narendra he will start going no and go into ecstasy record it again and
again go into that much love for his disciple now naren the one time ram question let me test him
so when narendra came he turned his back on him he wouldn't look at him you talk to others and
when runner comes to talk he ignores him and talks to somebody else you know we had this experience
you know we need people like that so deliberately kept avoiding him i wouldn't look at him wouldn't
talk to him wouldn't smile at him just ignore him completely and this was not for for a day it went
on for many days he kept ignoring completely as he was nobody now anybody else would have felt
really look first he praises me to the highest heaven then he's ignoring me i better not go
any more this is the standard reaction and he kept coming and kept listening and without any problem
and one day i'm gonna call him come here i'm ignoring you why do you keep coming
he would ask him bluntly he said look at the answer is equally good he say i come here to
listen to you i come here because i love you not because you talk to me
that's okay okay got you so that was a relationship and again once in a while this ram
question would get so exuberant about his disciple once kesho chandra said you know questions he
draws hundred thousand people in his movement like that the most popular religious personality in
calcutta in his time the the founder the main kind of proponent of uh you know brahma samaj so keshu
chandrasen is standing in this narendra was just 18 year old boy standing next to me this is the
master cash and everybody bows down touches his feet all the time and they're both standing next
to each other and you see i told you aranka was very very outspoken he looked at both and said ah
the light here is like a little candle light the light here is the blazing sun now this is terrible
you know compare them little little little little oil lamp and the other ones like the blazing sun
and everybody protests including vapor and produces look this is very don't say stuff like
that this is very rude you know you're offending this fellow don't do it talk like that and i'm
guess look what i saw i said i can't help myself but look what he said who knows the question the
saying and who is going to know questions in the next hundred years is this a forgotten memory
and this this dynamo this fireball that ramakrishna picked up and through to the west is
going to become a very major accepted figure for spirituality in the western days to come forget
about india in the west they're going to adopt him they're going to give him blonde hair blue eyes
and make him anglo-saxon and take him away that's how much they're going to love him and guarantee
you in our lifetime we'll see that beginning to happen so here is you see you make this kind of
blunt comment little candle light blazing sun so this is the relationship between the master and
the disciple both testing each other to the full and yet becoming and challenging over here is it
this without challenging you see ramka said look if you don't challenge me if you don't
interact with me how will you learn in order for you to progress to evolve you need to challenge me
continue to challenge me you encourage all these disciples to challenge him to test him to the full
you see we talked about this allah to remember this law to this servant boy who
became this great monastic disciple the first monastic disciple of the ramakrishnan order
and you see his this guideless person how he lived and then sometimes to take you know take
shelter from the rain he would go and sleep in the open carriage and the carrot gets you
know linked to the train and disappears 50 miles away and he makes something he said from now on
i don't take shelter in the garage carriages see these guys personalities one day this ram krishna
did the story you know we've been using the story for children children of jatilla the young boy
whose mommy said my boy if you go to the forest feel frightened just call on your
brother your brother is krishna and his name is madhusudan so this boy krathila was able to
get first ex fun personal experience of god is his brother and this ram question with the story and
this little latte is listening he's in trouble the moment the story finishes it goes to the panchode
there's a little forest in the north of the temple it goes in the shout oh madhusudan where are you
wailing crying all night from madusudan you see everything the ram krishna said had an immediate
impact the thing is he didn't only just preach high philosophy each and every individual who
came near him he managed to lift them up and open up the doorways of spiritual experience
he was dishing out not philosophy and theory he was dishing out experience firsthand
every one of them was allowed to immediately experience his idea of spirit god for himself
each and every disciple who came near him let me go just take the story stage further
during this time he came across another young man the name of this young man is yogin
now yogin comes from a very aristocratic family and he's very strongly attracted to ram because he
starts visiting ramakrishna again and again he's is absolutely in love with his personality you see
if spirituality is sincere here you'll be drawn to other people who are equally sincere
and spiritually evil it will come naturally it's like a natural law you'll be drawn by them so this
yogin is drawn by sriram krishna and he's very close to him things are going well so far so good
but then yogin's mother said look you know standard stuff in every family my boy you grown up
it is time for you to get married and yogin is not very keen on getting married look i'm not putting
down instead of marriage i'm also married so don't worry you all pay a price so he said mother said
look it's time for you to get married you can say no please leave me mother no you must get married
and the mother you see the two tools women have are tears this is number number two i'll mention
it later on they're very powerful tools she cries her eyes out look at me old mother struggling to
cook we need somebody in the house to take the response i can't carry on forever my boy
this is the least you can do for your mother is this my in hinduism the problem big thing
so this you know so mother started crying yogin finally relented you know the boys are like that
you know mommy's cry boys are gone that big for all the boys we know
so yogin relented and got married and he said he was crestfallen he said now i can't go near my
master ram krishna because i'm married and he was talking about becoming spiritually evolved
and i can never go near him because i'm impure now this is terrible i've fallen down and i've really
lost my track so he said i can't go near in the meantime this ram question becoming very agitated
because you see he's aware of each and every of his major disciples and he was struggling
the struggle goes to him he's becoming very agitated he sends messages after messages to
yogi and says send yoga in here send your in here i'm waiting for him i'm look i want to look at him
where is he why doesn't he come and yogin says alright he doesn't know what's happened
to me i don't want to go he'll look at my face he'll know what's happened to me
so i'd rather not go and he would avoid now is he pull him he will use every trick in the tray
under the under under the sun so he remembered that this yogin had been given some money by
the temple to buy some equipment for the temple the equipment had arrived but a few anna's you
know few pens had not been settled for the account there was balance left a few pens
so he sent a message saying the temple is annoyed that you are such a cheat
now yogin said i have fallen down but not that far
he's calling they're calling me cheating of two pence five pence you know they're calling me a
cheat this is terrible he came with his money you see in the movie this is a lovely story these are
real things you know i i these are recorded stuff this is not make anything make believe
so yogin comes with these few annas and ah where are you my boy come here you've been prostrated to
him he said i've been waiting for you where are you don't you understand i'm burning up without
you why are you come and see me and yoga is trying to give pen he said keep it to yourself come here
look my boy said don't worry if you're married you're not lost your track it is perfectly
all right bring your wife your all sorter out she will not be a hindrance to your spiritual
progress bring her here and if you want to live your wife i'll sort that out for you
talking like that you said this is possible yes he's talking like he said don't you see
what have you done wrong don't worry continue to come and this yogi is again redrawn again pull
back into the fold you see this yogin became swami yoganan and there was a unique feature
about swami yogananda i tell you about it you'll like it sometimes you would stay in the masters
room at night this is their young boys they take a blanket and they just lie on the floor and put
the blanket over the head and go to sleep and they stay here because in case ram question
works in the middle of the night waters and they jump up and do it they are the disciples
one day yogin suddenly opened his eyes and and ram questions bed was empty
he looked round in the room he is not available not visible anywhere and the door is open
and for an instant yogin thought this aram krsna is talking about celibacy and all that
a platonic relationship with his wife and the wife lives in a room outside just a few feet
away little tiny room ah he thought immediately the thought arose he was rattled because if you
really respect and love somebody suddenly you feel that your respect has not been your trust
have been broken you would feel agitated you feel very agitated oh dear i got it wrong here
he's going to see his wife he quietly came out of his he's not going to let go he came out quietly
and waited and looked kept looking at the room of the wife to see if he's going to emerge from there
and after some time you know this ramka used to wear little kind of slippers will go click
he heard the click click coming from the forest he's gone for natural core for
to answer the call of nature he came out and you saw so yogin and yogin was crestfallen
ram krishna could read his mind he said good my boy good test the sadhu in the morning test him
even more in the night don't let them off do not trust people like that i am pleased
my