KRISTIN: THE PARTIAL GOVERNMENT
SHUTDOWN HEIDI DIDN'T TO A
DIVIDED CONGRESS IN THE NEW
YEAR AND REPUBLICANS AND
DEMOCRATS TRADE BLAME FOR THE
IMPASSE.
LET'S BRING IN WORLDWIDE
COFOUNDER KEVIN PAUL SCOTT AND
DEMOCRATIC STRATEGISTS TARYN
ROSENCRANTZ.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
WE ARE EIGHT DAYS INTO THE
PARTIAL GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN AND
YET IT FEELS WE HAVEN'T MADE
ANY PROGRESS, NO CLOSER TO A
DEAL.
HOW DO YOU SEE THIS PLAYING
OUT?
ONE SIDE HAS TO GIVE.
WHO IS GOING TO BE?
>> IT IS DOWN TO THE OPTICS.
WHAT USE IT IS IT FEELS LIKE
NOTHING HAPPENED BECAUSE
NOTHING HAS HAPPENED.
WE ARE SITTING HERE WHERE
NEITHER SIDE WANTS TO LOOK LIKE
THEY ARE GOING TO LOSE.
IF TRUMP IS AT ALL ON THE WALL
IT LOOKS LIKE A FAILURE FOR
HIM.
OF DEMOCRATS BUDGE, ALL THESE
THINGS GOING ON COMES DOWN TO
FUNDING FOR THE WALL.
YOU HAVE TO WONDER IF DONALD
TRUMP WILL GIVE IN BECAUSE HE
SAID HE WOULD TAKE CREDIT FOR
THE SHUTDOWN OR IF HE'S TRYING
TO FLEX MUSCLES TO SHOW NANCY
PELOSI THAT HE'S HAS SOME
STRENGTH AND IS NOT GOING TO
ROLL OVER WHEN SHE TAKES
CONTROL IN JANUARY.
IT COMES DOWN TO OPTICS.
KRISTIN: THE CHIEF OF STAFF
SAID YESTERDAY HE EXPECTS THIS
TO GO ON FOR A VERY LONG TIME
SO HOW DO YOU SEE THIS?
WHICH SIDE IS GOING TO GIVING
YOUR OPINION?
>> DONALD TRUMP IS UP AGAINST
70% OF AMERICANS IN THE LATEST
POLL, THEY BLAME DONALD TRUMP
AND THE REPUBLICANS FOR THIS
SHUTDOWN AND NO ONE IS IN FAVOR
OF THIS SHUTDOWN AND THE
FINANCIAL IMPACT IT IS HAVING
ON AMERICANS NATIONWIDE AND OUR
FINANCIAL STABILITY ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
AND ACROSS THE WORLD.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER HE
CAN GO ON.
IT IS A TRICKY SITUATION FOR
THE PRESIDENT.
IF I WAS A REPUBLICAN OPERATIVE
I WOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT THE
OPTICS.
I WOULD AGREE WITH KEVIN THAT
THERE IS SO MUCH AT STAKE.
HE CAMPAIGNED THAT HE WAS GOING
TO HAVE MEXICO A FOR THE WALL.
NOW HE IS GOING TO BAT TO DIE
ON THIS HILL FOR HAVING THE
AMERICAN GOVERNMENT PAY FOR IT.
THAT WILL BE A HARD THING TO
OVERCOME ESPECIALLY WITH 70% OF
AMERICANS SAY I BLAME YOU FOR
THIS.
>> HE IS GOING TO GET SOME OF
THE BLAME BUT ONE OF THE
REASONS DONALD TRUMP WAS
ELECTED IS BECAUSE HE IS NOT
BEHOLDEN TO WASHINGTON, NOT
DOING THE SAME OLD THING ABOUT
BY THE POLLS.
IF THERE'S ONE THING, THIS YEAR
GOING INTO THE 2018 MIDTERM
ELECTION, THE TARIFFS WEREN'T
POPULAR AND THE PRESIDENT IS
STICKING TO HIS GUNS ON THIS.
THE PULLOUT OF SYRIA MAKES A
LOT OF REPUBLICANS ANGRY.
YOU CAN DISAGREE WITH THE
PRESIDENT'S POLICIES, YOU CAN'T
SAY HE'S MOTIVATED BY POLITICS
AND POLL NUMBERS.
I THINK THIS SHUTDOWN IS NOT A
GREAT ONE BUT WE HAVE TO
REMEMBER CERTAIN PEOPLE FIND IT
REFRESHING THIS PRESIDENT IS
WILLING TO STAND UP AND NOT TO
POLITICS AS USUAL.
KRISTIN: I WANT TO PLAY
SOUNDBITE FROM AN HOUR AGO, AND
INTERESTING POINT, HE SAID I
MIGHT BE MORE OPEN TO
SUPPORTING THE PRESIDENT'S
BORDER WALL IF PERHAPS HE WERE
ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE CONCRETE
DETAILS ABOUT WHERE IT WOULD
BE, HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST,
LISTEN TO THIS.
>> I DO HAVE A HANG UP HERE,
THAT IS TAXPAYER MONEY BEING
SPENT WITHOUT ANY PLANS
WHATSOEVER.
THE PRESIDENT SAYS $5 BILLION
BUT HAS NOT OFFERED ONE IOTA OF
INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE THAT
WALL WOULD BE BUILT, WHAT IT
WOULD CONTAIN.
IS A SPIKE FENCE?
A CYCLONE FENCE?
WHAT IS IT?
WHERE IS IT?
KRISTIN: WOULD IT HELP IF THE
PRESIDENT PROVIDED DETAILS
ABOUT IT?
>> IT MAY HELP BUT WE ARE FAR
APART ON THIS.
HE WANTS $5 BILLION, DEMOCRATS
ARE NOT GOING TO COMPRISE ON $3
BILLION OR $4 BILLION OR TO A
HALF BILLION DOLLARS.
THEY DON'T WANT A WALL SO THE
ISSUE IS WALTER NO ONE?
NOT HOW IT WILL BE BUILT OR HOW
MUCH MONEY.
IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT DEMOCRATS
BUDGE AT ALL ON THE WALL.
EVEN IF IT IS ONLY $1
IT WOULD BE SEEN AS A VICTORY
FOR THE PRESIDENT OF.
DON'T BUDGE ON THE LINE TRUMP
GIVES IT WILL BE A DEMOCRAT
VICTORY.
KRISTIN: DONALD TRUMP IS
WINNING THE DEMOCRATS,
DEMOCRATS ARE READY FOR THE
PRESIDENT.
WHAT SHOULD DEMOCRATS BE DOING?
SHOULD THEY BE WALKING OVER TO
THE WHITE HOUSE AS DONALD TRUMP
SUGGESTED ON TWITTER?
>> THIS BLAME LIES WITH THE
PRESIDENT.
THE SENATE PROPOSED A
BIPARTISAN COMPROMISE BEFORE
THE SHUTDOWN AND HE SQUARELY
REJECTED IT.
IT IS IN HIS HANDS.
HE TWEETED EARLIER THAT IT WAS
SAD HE WAS HERE FOR CHRISTMAS
BUT IT IS SAID WE HAVE
AMERICANS NOT GETTING PAID
BECAUSE OF THE GOVERNMENT
SHUTDOWN OVER SOMETHING THE
SENATE PUT FORTH IN A
BIPARTISAN COMPROMISE.
THERE WAS NO REASON TO REJECT
IT EXCEPT THIS STUBBORN IDEA
THAT HE CAN'T LOSE.
HE HAS TO SEE THIS AS A
VICTORY.
ONE THING KEVIN SAID THAT
WASN'T RIGHT, THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE, THE VAST MAJORITY
REALLY WANT TO SEE US HAVE OUR
COUNTRY BE ENHANCED BORDER
SECURITY, THEY DO WANT TO SEE A
COUNTRY THAT IS FINANCIALLY
STABLE THAT HAVE GREAT
LEADERSHIP IN GREAT POSITION.
KRISTIN: I GOT TO LEAVE IT