I WANT TO TALK TO UP IN A MOMENT
ABOUT IMMIGRATION, A TOPIC YOU
AND I TALK ABOUT A LOT.
BUT THERES A PIECE THAT I
HAVENT PLAYED FROM THAT
INTERVIEW YET, AND ITS GOT TO
DO WITH THE PERSONAL TRAUMA,
SOMETHING THAT CONSERVATIVES
MOCKED REPRESENTATIVE
OCASIO-CORTEZ FOR.
SHES NOT PAST IT.
I THINK IT FASCINATES HER THAT
THOSE 175 REPUBLICANS ARE PAST
IT BECAUSE THEY WERE COMING FOR
ALL OF THEM.
>> LOOK, ALI, THANK YOU FOR
HAVING ME ON.
ITS GREAT TO SEE YOU TOO.
I WAS NOT EXPECTING THAT THE
CONVERSATION ABOUT JANUARY 6th
BECAUSE THE INTERVIEW HAPPENED A
COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
I JUST DIDNT THINK THAT WAS
WHERE WE WERE GOING TO SPEND SO
MUCH TIME.
YOU HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF
TIME AND A LOT TO COVER.
BUT AS SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS
TRAUMA, I DEVELOPED PTSD WHEN I
WAS WORKING AT CNN
COVERING 9/11.
I DIDNT KNOW WHAT THE HECK IT
WAS, AND ITS A VERY STRANGE
THING, AND IM SO GLAD THAT I
WAS ABLE TO GET OVER IT AFTER
MANY, MANY YEARS AND A LOT OF
THERAPY.
AND I COULD SEE THIS ON
ALEXANDRIAS FACE SO CLEARLY
THAT SHE NEEDED TO SPEAK ABOUT
THIS.
AND WHATS HARD ABOUT IT, ALI,
IS THAT ITS THERE.
YOU CAN SEE IT ON HER FACE.
OF COURSE WHEN WE ARE
PRESENTING, WE ALL CAN PUT ON
MAKEUP AND LOOK GREAT.
BUT WHEN YOURE CLOSE UP TO
SOMEBODY AND THE MASK IS OFF,
LITERALLY THE MASK IS OFF,
THERES THE TRAUMA.
AND WHATS EXTRAORDINARY, ALI,
IS THAT JUST ME TALKING ABOUT
THIS ON MY TWITTER AND PUTTING
THE INTERVIEW UP, ALL OF THE
TROLLS COME, AND THIS IS WHERE
ITS LIKE, WOW, YOU KNOW.
SHE CANT EVEN -- SHE CANT EVEN
HAVE HER FEELINGS, AND YET WHAT
IM PROUD OF HER FOR -- AND YOU
KNOW IM ALWAYS SKEPTICAL OF
POLITICIANS, SO YES.
BUT WHAT IM PROUD OF HER FOR IS
THAT SHE STILL REMAINS AUTHENTIC
IN THAT WAY.
>> IN FACT, SO MUCH SO THAT I
WANT TO PLAY SOME OF WHAT SHE
SAID TO YOU ABOUT HER OWN
FEELINGS OF WELLNESS AFTER
JANUARY 6th.
LETS LISTEN TOGETHER.
>> IF I TAKE A COUPLE MONTHS NOW
AND JUST BE REALLY GOOD, THEN I
DONT HAVE TO LIVE WITH THIS
THING FESTERING AND LINGERING
WITH ME LIKE A ROOMMATE IN MY
APARTMENT FOR YEARS.
>> SO YOURE DOING THERAPY?
>> YEAH.
OH, YEAH.
IM DOING THERAPY, BUT ALSO IVE
JUST SLOWED DOWN.
I THINK THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
HAD A LOT OF US, ESPECIALLY
LATINO COMMUNITIES, IN A VERY
REACTIVE MODE.
AND SO IVE BEEN PUTTING MYSELF
IN A MORE PROACTIVE SPACE.
>> LETS JUST TALK ABOUT THAT.
TRUMP HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE IN
LATINO COMMUNITIES IN A VERY
REACTIVE MODE.
THIS IS SOMETHING YOU KNOW A
GREAT DEAL ABOUT.
YOU REPORT ON AND YOU TALK TO
PEOPLE.
ITS SCARY WHEN THE PRESIDENT
TARGETS A GROUP OF PEOPLE.
WEVE SEEN IT NOW WITH
ASIAN-AMERICANS IN THE LAST
YEAR.
IT DOES HAVE REAL EFFECT.
>> OH, MY GOD.
ITS EXHAUSTING, ALI.
ITS COMPLETELY EXHAUSTING.
THE FULL INTERVIEW -- AND THIS
WAS A PLACE WHERE ALEXANDRIA
ACTUALLY WAS ABLE TO TALK ABOUT
LATINOS AND LATINAS, AND ITS
NOT JUST FOR LATINOS AND
LATINAS.
BUT CONSIDERING THAT WE ARE THE
SECOND LARGEST VOTING BLOC IN
THE UNITED STATES AND SHES NOT
JUST A LATINA POLITICIAN, SHES
ONE OF THE MOST FASCINATING
AMERICAN POLITICIANS RIGHT NOW IN THE UNITED STATES, THE WAY
IN THE UNITED STATES, THE WAY
SHE TALKED ABOUT THE FUTURE WAS
EXTRAORDINARY.
I MEAN WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND
THAT LATINOS AND LATINAS ARE
GOING TO -- SHE UNDERSTANDS THAT
WHAT THEY DO, HOW THEY ACT
POLITICALLY IS GOING TO
DETERMINE WHAT THE FUTURE OF THE
UNITED STATES LOOKS LIKE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT WAS
LIKE A ROAD MAP THE WAY SHE WAS
TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOUNG
LATINOS -- YOU KNOW, IM A BIT
OLDER NOW SO I DONT HAVE A LOT
OF TIME TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
BUT THE INTERVIEW WAS REALLY FOR
HER GIVING A ROAD MAP TO LATINOS
AND LATINAS TO UNDERSTAND THAT
WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO
UNDERSTAND WHO WE ARE IN THIS
COUNTRY AND OUR HISTORY AND
TAKING THE CUE FROM BLACK LIVES
MATTER, FROM THE ACTIVISTS
HISTORICALLY IN THIS COUNTRY WHO
HAVE SAID, WE HAVE TO STUDY OUR
OWN HISTORY.
WE HAVE TO AFFIRM OURSELVES.
AND THIS IS WHAT ALEXANDRIA IS
TALKING ABOUT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IM SO
HAPPY THAT SHE TALKS ABOUT
HEALING, THAT SHE TALKS ABOUT
THERAPY, THAT SHE TALKS ABOUT
GOING INTO THE WOODS, DOING
GREEN THERAPY, ANCESTRAL
THERAPY, GETTING IN TOUCH WITH