- Like, I'm laughing when you know,
whatever I may or may not be known for,
Chris Caine bold radical faith, which yes.
But I was the kid that was left in a hospital,
unnamed and unwanted.
I was the kid that was sexually abused for 12 years.
I'm the immigrant's daughter.
And because I believe this word to be true
and applied it and had to overcome,
I didn't come out of the gate like this,
in fact, I came full of shame,
full of pain and heartache.
And by applying God's word
and doing exactly what we're telling everyone else to do,
we say obedience is not a personality type.
- Right.
- It's saying yes to God.
And it doesn't mean you get here,
here I am leading what I am leading
but Lisa you know more than anyone in my life.
Just the last couple of years
have been some of the biggest challenges in my life.
And I got to a place, you know,
in 2017 where I think the best way to explain it was,
you know, my husband watches Navy Seal documentaries
like you know, whatever.
I had just taken a lot of hits, a lot of discouragement,
a couple of betrayals.
I mean just the stuff that happens,
but when it's compounded.
And here I am, lady A21, leading Propel,
doing what I do,
and I didn't know how to explain initially
what had happened to me,
but there was this sense of beginning to think,
Are you kidding me?
Really do I wanna be on this forefront?
Where you could be in the world in which we live,
just so misunderstood, so misquoted,
just a whole lot of different things.
And then, we were watching this Navy Seal documentary
and I saw the whole goal of obviously of hell week.
It was about hell week.
So here are these people that are elite athletes anyway
to even get into hell week,
- Right.
- You've gotta be so, you're the creme de la creme anyway
of the military.
So you are strong enough in your natural sense.
You pretty much should have the capacity to do it,
but everything in that week is designed to break you down.
It's just the drill sergeants yelling at you,
- Right.
- because if they can break you down there,
you are not gonna break down on the frontline.
There is a reason for it.
You know, more than 60% of the people don't make it
from hell week into the Seals.
And there was this one thing,
they dropped the guys out of the helicopter
at 3 in the morning,
and you gotta swim your way back to shore.
I remember saying to Nick,
after this whole week of no sleep and watching the seals
I said, I think this how I feel.
I said, it's the best way to explain it.
It's like I am sitting in freezing cold water
and you know, say a I've been in it for 6 hours
I know I've got do it for 8 hours
and I know I can do it.
I know I'm not gonna die,
I know my body can take this,
and I said, but for the first time
in my entire Christian life,
here I am running all these global things,
here I am running this thing,
I don't know if I want to.
I actually don't know if I want to stay in this water
and I just think I might go ring the bell.
I go here is the deal,
most people wouldn't even realize it,
because I've got enough momentum that it would take people
maybe 10 years before they're like..
- Where is Chris? (laughing)
- Unless you're like discerning
- Right.
- Where you go, there hasn't been
any oil on a message of her's for a long time,
but unless you are discerning, there is enough gift
to carry that through, you know whatever.
And I said, that thing of just really choosing
for whoever it is, what ever it is,
in my way it's a public role,
but whether public or non-public,
it's a daily obedience to Christ.
Daily get up, pick up your cross
- Absolutely right.
- and follow him.
Crucify his flesh, whatever it might mean.
It's not like,
no matter who you are, yesterday you were giving me
the example of the guy in the helicopter
and the guy in the front, you can explain that later.
But the deal is, that whether people think
I am an enneagram 8 or I am a high d
or whatever my gift mix,
obedience is not a love language,
it's not an enneagram number,
it's not something on the disc profile,
it's a death to self everyday.
- That's right.
- So whether you are me, apparently personality confident,
I still had to get to a point in 2017/2018 where it was,
I will keep saying yes to,
No, I wasn't gonna go back slide,
I wasn't gonna go.
But it was just in my heart, I would've rung the bell.
And most people would not have known
and I really thought,
I am never gonna put myself out there like this.
We're not gonna keep opening A21 offices,
it comes with too much persecution,
or I am not gonna keep growing Propel,
it comes with too much persecution.
I am not gonna keep on TV where people can,
you know, the heresy hunters can not like the sentence
of what I say for whatever.
I can't make a mistake and get it right,
because you're going to be pounded for it.
And I thought, who needs this?
- [Laurie] Yeah.
- Except, which is like Esther,
Who needs this?
Like why?
Someone else can go to the king, you know,
knock yourselves out.
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