>> CAN YOU VOTE WITH THIS
BILL WITH A CLEAR CONSCIOUS?
HELL NO, YOU CAN'T.
>> ALL THE PEOPLE YOU
REFERENCE IN THE MIDDLE
CLASS, I SAY HELL YES THEY
>> THEY ARE PUTTING IT ON
THE CREDIT CARD AND ADDING
$2.3 TRILLION TO THE FEDERAL
DEBT.
MERRY CHRISTMAS.
>> HERE'S HOW CONFIDENT
HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE THAT
THEY HAVE THE VOTE TO PASS.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE ARE DOING A LIVE SHOT.
ADOPTED.
WITHOUT OBJECTION THE MOTION
TO RECONSIDER IS LAID UPON
AT YOUR PAYCHECKS.
TAX RELIEF WE DELIVERED
TODAY.
>> Bret: THE HOUSE VOTE
TODAY AS YOU HEARD 227 TO
203.
12 REPUBLICANS VOTED AGAINST
THE BILL.
THE PRESIDENT TWEETING RIGHT
AFTER, THIS VOTE IN THE
HOUSE, CONGRATULATIONS TO
PAUL RYAN, KEVIN MCCARTHY.
STEVE SCALISE CATHY
MCMORRIS ROGERS AND ALL
GREAT HOUSE REPUBLICANS WHO
VOTED IN FAVOR OF CUTTING
YOUR TAXES.
THERE WAS ONE PROBLEM.
THAT THEY PROBABLY ARE GOING
TO HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN.
THEY WILL HAVE TO DO IT
AGAIN IF IT'S GOING TO GET
TO THE PRESIDENT'S DESK.
THE SENATE IS GETTING READY
BECAUSE OF RULES AND SENT
BACK TO THE HOUSE TOMORROW
MORNING.
LET'S BRING IN OUR PANEL.
BACK IN THE BUREAU, JOB THAT
JONAH GOLDBERG.
CHARLES HURT, OPINION EDITOR
FOR "THE WASHINGTON TIMES."
AMY, IT'S A BIG MOMENT HERE
OBVIOUSLY.
AND GETTING READY FOR THE
SENATE VOTE WHICH SENATE
MAJORITY HEARD MITCH
MCCONNELL IS VERY CONFIDENT
ABOUT.
IT'S A BIT OF A PROCESS
THING HERE.
>> IT IS A BIT OF A PROCESS
THING.
I THINK IT'S JUST A HICCUP
ALONG THE WAY.
AND WE KNOW THAT ULTIMATELY
THE VOTE IS GOING TO COME
OUT AND REPUBLICANS WILL BE
WHERE THEY ARE TODAY, WHICH
IS SUCCESSFUL IN PASSING TAX
LEBLETION THROUGH THE HOUSE,
THROUGH THE SPHAT.
GETTING IT TO THE
PRESIDENT'S DESK BY THE END
ESPECIALLILY EARLIER THIS
FALL AND THE SUMMER WHEN THE
GETTING DONE BY THE END OF
THE YEAR LOOKED LIKE ANNUAL
IMPOSSIBILITY.
THE FACT IS RIGHT NOW IT IS
DONE.
THE QUESTION AS WE GO
FORWARD THE REPUBLICANS WERE
SUCCESSFUL IN SELLING THE
TAX BILL TO THEIR OWN
MEMBERS, PASSING IT.
NOW THEY HAVE GOT TO SELL IT
TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC THAT
AT BEST IS SKEPTICAL OF IT.
>> Bret: JONAH?
>> I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
IN A LOT OF WAYS THERE IS A
THIS WAS A LONGLY HELD
OF THIS GOAL THEY WENT
ON A BET THAT IT WOULD PAY
OFF.
I THINK THE REPUBLICANS
THINK THE BET IS IT'S NOT
OBAMACARE.
IT'S MORE LIKE BILL
CLINTON'S 1993 BUDGET WHICH
ECONOMY TOOK OFF AND BILL
CLINTON GOT TO TAKE CREDIT
TO TAKE CREDIT FOR WHAT THEY
HOPE IS GOING TO BE A
ROARING ECONOMY.
IT IS A BIG BET AND IT IS
GOING TO INCREASE THE
DEFICIT.
ALL IN ALL I DO THINK THAT
THE PRESS AND THE DEMOCRATS
HAVE BEEN SO DEMAGOGUE QUICK
AND OVERHEATED ABOUT ALL OF
THIS TALKING ABOUT HOW IT
ROBS THE MIDDLE CLASS.
ACCORDING TO BROOKINGS WHICH
IS NOT EXACTLY A RIGHT WING
THINK TANK 80% OF AMERICANS
ARE GOING TO GET SOME SORT
OF A TAX CUT.
>> Bret: CHARLIE, YOU MOVE
ONTO THE NEXT BATTLE, WHICH
IS JUST REALLY NOW, THE
GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN.
THEY COULD HAVE A BIG WIN
TOMORROW WITH THE HOUSE
PASSING FINAL TAX REFORM
HEADING TO THE PRESIDENT'S
DESK.
AND THEN HIT A BRING WALL
WITH A GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN.
IT SEEMS THE SENATE MAJORITY
LEADER SEEMED TO SUGGEST
THAT THEY ARE KIND OF -- HE
FEELS CONFIDENT HE HAS
>> YEAH.
HE DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO
THE SPECIFICS OF THAT WITH
YOU IN YOUR INTERVIEW
TONIGHT.
BUT I DO THINK THAT IN THE
SHORT-TERM, YOU KNOW, THEY
CAN CELEBRATE SOMETHING OF A
VICTORY DESPITE ALL OF THE
CURSING AND SCATTER WALLING
ON THE HOUSE FLOOR FROM
DEMOCRATS.
GO INTO THE NEXT ELECTION
EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR
DONALD TRUMP GOING INTO THE
2020 ELECTION, THE ECONOMY
IS DOING VERY, VERY WELL.
TODAY AND ALL THE SCATTER
WALLING WILL BE FORGOTTEN.
REPUBLICANS ARE VERY GOOD AT
CONVINCING REPUBLICANS
WHATEVER THEY HAVE DONE THEY
THEY HAVE DONE.
IN THE CASE OF OBAMACARE
EVERYBODY SAID -- NOBODY GOT
ON BOARD WITH OBAMACARE.
YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE.
THEY WON BACK THE MAJORITY.
AND THEN AFTER THE SHUT
DOWN, THEY SAID YOU ARE
GOING TO PAY FOR THIS.
AND THEY, OF COURSE, THEN
WENT ON TO REACH THE HIGHEST
MAJORITY THAT THEY EVER HAD.
SO, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE
EARLY TO BE SCARING
OTHER THING THAT WAS NEWSY
IS THAT DACA IS NOT GOING TO
COME UP BEFORE THE END OF
THE YEAR AND THEY FEEL LIKE
THEY HAVE SOME BREATHING
ROOM EVEN WITH DEMOCRATS WHO
OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME LEVERAGE
HERE.
>> YEAH.
AND I THINK EVEN FOR
DEMOCRATS THEY REALIZE THAT
SHUTTING THE GOVERNMENT
THEY ARE LOOKING OUT ONLY
FOR THE SPECIAL INTEREST,
LOOKING OUT FOR WEALTHY AND
CORPORATE INTEREST, NOT THE
REGULAR PERSONAL, TO SHUT
THE GOVERNMENT DOWN RIGHT
BEFORE CHRISTMAS, AND
ESSENTIALLY STOP GOVERNMENT
BENEFITS AND THE PROCEEDS
FROM THE GOVERNMENT GOING TO
THE YEAR, I JUST THINK IT'S
A TERRIBLE POLITICAL
ARGUMENT.
I DON'T THINK ANY SIDE WIN
WHEN YOU SAY SHUT THE
GOVERNMENT DOWN.
HOWEVER, GOING INTO NEXT
YEAR, THIS IS GOING TO BE
SOMETHING OF A FIGHT,
ALTHOUGH HERE IS A PLACE
THAT THE PRESIDENT IS REALLY
LOOKING AS HE SAID HE IS IN
THE NEXT YEAR TO START
REACHING OUT AND BRINGING
STRATEGY.
THIS WOULD BE THE PLACE TO
DO IT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
POLLING, YOU SEE THAT A
MAJORITY OF AMERICANS
BELIEVE THAT THESE
AMERICANS, EVEN THOUGH THEY
DID NOT COME TO THE COUNTRY
LEGALLY.
AND THEY WANT TO SEE THEM
STAY HERE NOT BE KICKED OUT
OF THE COUNTRY.
I THINK WHEN THE PRESIDENT
SPEAKS ON, THIS HE CAN MOVE
HIS OWN PARTY ON THIS ISSUE.
PRESIDENT SAYS HE LIKES
WHEN IT COMES FROM HIS MOUTH
THAN WHEN IT COMES FROM THE
MOUTHS OF DEMOCRATS.
TRUMP, HOW HE DOES THINGS
AND TWEETS THINGS AND TALKS
ABOUT THINGS.
IF YOU DO THE LIST AND JUST
TAKE AWAY THE WRAPPING PAPER
AROUND IT, THE LIST OF
THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED SO
FAR, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> I THINK IT'S A PRETTY
GOOD LIST.
CERTAINLY IT'S A GOOD LIST
COMPARED TO WHAT YOU WOULD
HAVE THOUGHT THE LIST WOULD
BE TWO MONTHS AGO.
AS MY COLLEAGUE AT NATIONAL
REVIEW RICH LOWRY SAYS THE
WHOLE BUTT AND GORSUCH LINE
IS OVER.
HE HAS A LONG LIST OF THINGS
THAT HE CAN TOUT AND SOME
CAMPAIGN PROMISES.
THE INTERESTING THING TO ME
RATING.
AND IT COULD BE THAT WHILE
THE HARD CORE 34, 36% BASE
OF THE PARTY IS POPPING
CHAMPAGNE RIGHT NOW IT COULD
BE BAKED INTO THE CAKE THAT
A LOT MORE MODERATE SORT OF
SUBURBAN REPUBLICANS THAT
TURNED OUT IN BIG NUMBERS TO
VOTE AGAINST ROY MOORE THAT
COST HE HAD GILLESPIE HIS
BID IN VIRGINIA, THAT THOSE
GUYS ARE ALREADY PRETURNED
OFF TO TRUMP AND GOING TO
TAKE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS
FROM THE ECONOMY FOR THEM TO
BE TURNED AROUND.
>> Bret: CHARLIE, QUICKLY,
THE ADMINISTRATION LOOKS AT
POLLS.
HE LIKES THE POLLS HE LIKES
AND DOESN'T LIKE THE OTHER
ONES.
BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT HE
CARES?
HE DOESN'T GET VERY MUCH
I THINK THAT GOING FORWARD,