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- Hi folks, I'm Bob Schrupp, physical therapist.
- Brad Heineck, physical therapist.
- Me and Brad are the most famous physical therapists
on the internet.
- In our opinion of course, Bob.
- Today we're gonna talk about the beautiful impact
of respect in sports.
Emotional health in athletes.
That's quite a mouthful, Brad.
- Yeah, and we've actually got an expert speaker to come in
to really give some good information.
- We don't know anything about it.
We have a little bit of experience with it
because we're parents. - Right.
- And so we've kind of seen maybe less violent versions.
- We've got bleacher time though.
- Yeah, we've got bleacher time though.
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- Anything else, Bob?
- Well, did you wanna do your first line,
or shall I introduce him.
- No, let me carry on. - Alright, carry on.
- So anyway school sports, like Bob said,
we've both had children in sports.
Spent a lot of bleacher time.
But, they can bring out the best
or they can bring out the worst in people.
Particularly the fans
and the parents.
- That's right.
- Yeah, the parents matter. - Parents go wild, baby.
- Yeah, it can get out of control
and it actually, Mark our guest speaker,
really has some, really helpful information to us.
- Yes, he does.
- To bring some light on the subject
so, Mark, why don't you come on in?
- Mark Horbinksi.
(cheering)
- Hey, thanks guys, nice to see you all.
- Thanks for coming.
- Thanks for coming, Mark.
- And we're all admiring the mustache, of course,
and we all wish we could grow something like that.
Mine looks like a little mousey thing on me, or whatever.
- So Mark is, been a school teacher for how many years?
- About 27.
- About 27 years. - Oh, wonderful.
- And you've coached different sports for how many years?
- 35 years of coaching ever since I was age 17.
- Okay. - Nice, nice.
- So you've been through the experience and
some of the good and some of the bad.
And you actually came up with this program
that hopefully can correct this
and actually is doing some wonderful results.
So should we get into a couple of stories?
- Well can we say the name of the program first?
We'll say it throughout.
- Okay.
- Cause I like this name, by the way.
- Yup.
- It's WON80, so you're thinking like,
you're gonna turn your life around
or turn a program around 180.
But it's W-O-N-80.
- Eight zero.
- Yeah, eight zero, so if you go to Facebook
and type that in.
Liz, I don't know why she's smiling,
but it's WON80, type it in there
and you'll get it right to this spot there, so.
- So Mark, could you tell us one of the, a good story
of something negative that has happened?
- Oh.
- That's not a good story, that's a bad story.
- Well.
- Unfortunately, I have several stories that I could share.
But, you know, sports are very emotionally charged.
- Yes they are.
- Sometimes although people are there
cause they love their children and want to support them,
sometimes the emotional aspect of sports,
like you said, can bring out the worst in people.
And just a couple of situations in our state
that have happened somewhat recently,
- So this is Wisconsin.
- Yes, yes. - Wisconsin, Wisconsin.
- Thank you.
(laughs)
Not too long ago, there was a youth wrestling tournament
up in the Fox Valley area that resulted in,
first a father and a mother of two of the competitors
actually getting in a physical altercation with one another.
- Brad and I watched this video
and I mean, it's unbelievable because,
- This is right out on the mat.
- On the mat.
- The kids are wrestling at the time, right?
- And their children are like eight-years-old.
- Right, and then when the father and the mother
of the two combatants are separated,
then the two mothers actually
get into a physical altercation and it led to,
- Well that one mother put a headlock on the other one
and then threw her down to the floor.
- Yeah. - That one mother,
she actually looked like she knew what she was doing.
I don't know if she was a coach herself
but she actually looked like,
when she was wrestling the guy first,
like she was doing pretty well, I mean?
- Ya, ya. - I thought.
- And your response was exactly mine.
As I go through, when I take a look at some
of these situations of bad sportsmanship.
At first you kind of chuckle and say,
"Is this real?"
- Right.
- And then as you reflect on it more
- Yeah when you reflect on it - It's pretty sad.
- It's not funny anymore.
- No, no.
- It is, I mean. And the amazing thing,
the two children, the wrestlers,
you know, eight or ten-years-old,
they're standing there in awe watching their parents
go at it. - Yeah, right, right.
How did this happen?
- Yeah, these parents really should not,
they need to change their lives
- Right.
- They need to change something so that this,
their children are going to be damaged
- Their frame of thinking they gotta do a 180.
- Exactly
(laughing)
- Nice.
So ya,
because I've started to see
a deterioration of sportsmanship over the years.
I use to kinda sit in my chair and get grumpy and say
"Man, when is somebody gonna do something about this".
- Sure
- And then it dawned on me "Hey, you're somebody."
What are you doing about it? - That's right.
That's exactly right. - You're sitting in a chair
and complaining, right.
So, about 4 years ago we started a grass,
I started a grassroots organization called WON180.
With a mission to lead a return to sportsmanship
through awareness, through education, and
through inspiration.
- This is through the high school level, or?
- Well we touch on youth and high school.
We have information that we share with colleges
and professionally.
I mean we're not working with professional athletes
but occasionally we'll seek out college athletes
and have them discuss sportsmanship,
and composure, - Sure
- and how you should handle yourself.
- I definitely could see, unfortunately,
you definitely can see this on the younger level.
- Ya - Cause this is not
just high school.
I mean, this starts at 5th grade, 6th grade.
- Sure.
- I mean I saw it at that level.
Cause that's the age that I coached at.
Is 5th grade and 6th grade. - Sure, okay.
- So I already saw kinda the bad side of parents
- Right - At that age.
- So what you do, as a matter of fact,
was it just last night you were up in the
Green Bay area doing a presentation to a
group of high school parents, or?
- It was parents and athletes - And athletes.
- I do a presentation called Supportsmanship.
Which is a concept of - Oh, that's cool.
- the whole athletic community taking ownership
of our athletic program to make it
a better experience for kids.
So I had the opportunity to speak to a group of about 250
parents and kids.
And talk about
how the behavior impacts,
how negative behaviors impact the sport
not only short-term but long-term.
Because there are some ramifications to the actions.
- Sure, right.
Right, so your program the WON80, right now
you do presentations to groups throughout
the state right now. - Yes.
- And how else does this WON80 program
work to get the message to these people?
- Well we have an active social media presence.
We're on Facebook and then we are also on Twitter
and we're on Instagram.
- And now you're gonna be on YouTube.
(laughing)
- I'm with the two most famous
physical therapists on the internet.
- That's right. - Yeah!
So, the opportunity to first off
to create awareness by sharing the importance of
positive sportsmanship, we it do through social media.
The education piece comes in through
the presentations at the schools.
And then there's also and inspirational piece
where we recognize student athletes and coaches
for doing the right things - See I thought this
was really cool
- What's the name of the, what do you call it the good ath?
No you have a name for the person that you give a.
- WON80 Warriors!
- Ya! WON80 Warriors, ya. - Yes!
- And but also, when you go and speak to the school,
you speak to
the athletes, - Yup.
- Separately right?
Or do you have people in the room with them?
- It can be either way.
We have presentations that are
they are positioned for
student athletes and teams. - Sure.
- We also have some that
our primary target audience are parents.
- That's what I thought. - And some that kind do both.
- So you kinda hit all groups. - Right.
- And sometimes separately. - Yes.
- So obviously you can't go around speaking
all the time cause you've got a job,
you've got a life.
And if people want to get this information
or some parts of your program is it
if they go to the Facebook?
Is that gonna - The Facebook!
(laughing)
- The Facebook, yes! - The Facebook!
- Facebook, we're pretty active with
information on Facebook.
We also have a website WON80.org that has
a lot of resources that schools
and individuals can use. - Sure.
- Those are free resources. - Okay.
- An quite honestly, I'm so passionate about
this kind of work, if somebody wants information
all they need to do is reach out to me
and they're gonna hear back from me personally.
- Sure.
- We'll have to include an email too.
I mean you have an email I take it?
- Absolutely, yup.
- And they can, you can go ahead and get bothered by it.
(laughing)
I mean, all right.
- You might get flooded here tomorrow.
- It's not a bother. - All right.
- I look forward to finding people
who have a passion for this area.
- Ya, it's amazing, you know my kids went to school
in Winona, Minnesota area and they had
a guest speaker come in and do some of this same stuff.
And it really did have a huge impact
that year. - Sure.
- It really made a big difference.
- Right.
- I thought it was really fantastic.
My wife and I still quote him sometimes to this day.
- Oh really? - Oh neat.
- Ya, ya.
- So, what kind of results have you had so far?
Now with your school obviously it's been
implemented and there's another local school
that's got intimately into the same program.
- Yes. So, we're part of the Scenic Bluffs Conference.
Which includes some of the schools in the La Crosse area.
- Sure.
- So Bangor, Cashton, and Brookwood
are some schools in our conference.
And actually all of the conference schools
have really taken to the message.
I think it's helped, - That's nice.
- at a conference level as well as
and individual school level. - Yup.
- Cashton High School has actually
started a WNO80 sportsmanship club,
like we have in Necedah. - Cool.
- So it's a student lead club that focuses on
promoting positive sportsmanship within the building.
- Sure.
- And we have other schools that I think are
pretty close to popping and getting ready to join us.
- So a lot of them, do they make it
part of their sportsmanship club that already exists?
Or, a club that already exists?
Or do they create their own, their own entity?
- I think it gets handled a multitude of different ways.
With Cashton and with Necedah it's a separate club.
But certainly groups like a National Honors Society,
or some type of clubs that promote volunteerism,
- Sure. - could, you know, take on.
- Well sports booster clubs.
- Sports booster clubs, ya.
- I would think, that would be a good one
to address that issue. - Sure.
- Right. Trying to get the kids to take ownership
and help lead the revolution I guess.
Is a big piece of this because.
- Some of the kids actually have to lead their parents.
(laughing)
- Absolutely, and that's the next generation of parents.
So it just kind of fits. - Yup.
- So if we can help them to develop
those leadership skills and the understanding,
and the importance of sportsmanship.
And then start to address it with their own parents.
(laughing)
When they become parents - Right.
- You know, hopefully it will - Ya it'll start carrying over
- Absolutely. - Right.
- And hopefully the parents will take
initiative to look at your site you know,
get it from both sides.
You know, their children as well as an expert like you.
And it really should, you know, resonate.
- So, we're probably gonna do a,
this is probably gonna be a two part video
to some extent.
We're gonna have another on in the future.
- Right.
- Is there anything else you want to cover right now?
Or do you want to hit our 12 minute limit here?
(laughing)
Brad?
- Mark is there anything that you
want to say in closing about your program?
- I would just like to say that you know,
it starts with the individual. - Sure.
- Make changes within your own,
within your own self and the way you control your emotions.
- Ya. - Sure.
- And handle things. - I agree with that 100%.
- And then that creates a ripple effect
with people that you influence.
And that's how the message will spread.
- Sure. - Yup.
- We're excited to have anybody that
wants to join us.
and become a foot soldier. - Fantastic.
- Excellent job. - Yup.
Thanks for watching.
- Thank you.