Interviewer: We were having dinner as a family.
My kids were there and this guy tried to grab my iPhone from the table, right?
Now, personally it was stupid of me to be leaving my iPhone directly on a table.
We were eating outdoors in Barcelona.
I happened to push him away and then he went off, but there was a part of me that wanted
to tackle him to the ground and have my friends call the cops so he wouldn't do that to other
people, right?
Would that be counted to being a highly evolved being, tackling this man to the ground and
calling the cops?
I'm asking because I don't know.
Interviewee: See, everything is contextual.
Things happen in context.
In a society of highly evolved beings it never would've happened to begin with.
He wouldn't have reached for your phone.
If he reached for you phone and you pushed him away I would probably not go after him
and tackle him to stop him from doing it to someone else.
I would've stopped him and I would've said, "Hold it, sir.
You don't have to run away.
Hold it, you don't have to run away.
Would you like some money?
You want some cash?
Are you in such trouble in your life that you actually wanna steal my phone?
Hold it just a second.
I've got €300 for you if you'll just stop where you are."
And by the way whether he stopped or not that would've been a huge message for everybody
in the restaurant.
Even if he didn't stop, even if he kept on running, everybody in the restaurant would've
gone, "Did that guy just offer the potential thief €300 to stop running, giving him a
reward to not get away?"
And if he did stop I'd say, "Come on over here, pal.
Come on.
Hey look, you know what?
If things are so tough for you that you have to violate your inner sense of who you are
because I know that deep down inside like all of us you're a wonderful person.
There are people who love you, people that you love I'm sure.
You're no less wonderful than I am but you may have had a tougher life, a few tougher
breaks that I didn't have.
If you feel so desperate in your life that you have to reach over my shoulder and try
to grab my property off the table, I'll give it to you.
I really need my phone because, you know, all my data is here, but if you want enough
money to buy your own phone and a couple [inaudible 00:02:11], two or three if you want, here.
Look, what do you need?
Take it from me.
I mean literally.
Take it from me.
You don't need to do this.
There are other ways to experience the wonder and the glory of who you are.
And if you'll promise to me and give me your deep soul promise that you won't take anyone
else's property ever again I'll double what I just gave you.
How about €600?
Come on we'll go to the ATM and we'll get it out of the machine.
I'm not kidding.
I'm not gonna report you to the police.
I'm gonna report you to yourself.
I'm gonna give you a chance to report in 'Who am I really?'
This guy sees me.
This guy sees me as who I really am."
That's what I would've done.
Interviewer: Wow.
Obviously I have a lot to learn, but I wanted to bring that up because I didn't want people
there hearing what you just said about highly evolved beings not practicing violence and
go, "Oh, I know that."
What I wanted you guys to get a sense of is that to really know that you are operating
in a way that is so counter-intuitive to what our societies and our rules and maybe even
how we've been brought up to operate.
Interviewee: I gotta tell you that I was in one of the third world countries.
Frankly I forgot where I was.
I think it was near Machu Picchu, but in any event I was in a third world country where
I was gonna give a talk, yes, but on the way there was a little festival, a street festival,
where the little artisans, the locals, the local people had made little handkerchiefs
and, you know, little caps and gloves and things they knitted and all these wonderful
artifacts and they were selling them on the street off your table.
And so I was travelling with some people who were with me, you know, some companions, so
they were saying, "Oh, look at that.
That's beautiful.
So how much?
How much?"
And the lady would say, you know, I'm gonna make it up, you know, "20 pesos."
And the guy would say, "I'll give you 15."
And I said, "Why..."
And he was bidding her down when she said, "Okay, okay, 15 pesos."
He said, "10."
And he was bidding her down.
I said, "Wait a minute, wait a minute."
I said, "What are you doing?"
I said, "What was the original price?"
She said, "20 pesos."
I said, "I'll give you 40."
She looked at me, she said, "What?
No, just 20, señor, just 20."
"I'll give you 40."
"Okay, okay, 40 pesos."
I said, "You take 40?"
She said, "Yes."
"I'll give you 60."
I'm bidding her up.
No matter what she accepted I doubled it.
I bid her up, and the guy next me thought, "This guy is crazy."
See because...and I thought, "What am I doing on this street where I earn more money in
a day than she will earn in a year and I'm trying to get her to come down on her price,
a scarf that she took two hours or more to make?"
Come on.
Wake up.
Stop it.
Just stop it.