>> THE EMPHASIS IS ON
LITIGATORS.
THE EMPHASIS IS ON COMFORT LEVEL
IN THE COURTROOM.
THE EMPHASIS IS MAKING THE
STRONGEST POSSIBLE CASE TO
PROTECT AND DEFEND OUR
CONSTITUTION, TO SEEK THE TRUTH
FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
>> Bill: HOUSE DEMOCRATS, YOU
HEARD IT LAST HOUR, MOVING
FORWARD NOW.
FOUR WEEKS LATER AFTER THE
IMPEACHMENT VOTE WAS PASSED IN
THE HOUSE.
THIS, AS WE LEARN NOW, THE
MANAGERS FOR THE CASE, SEVEN
CONGRESS MEMBERS FROM THE
DEMOCRATIC SIDE WILL SERVE AS
MANAGING THE
MANAGENG THE
MANAGERS THE
MANAGERS IHE
MANAGERS INE
MANAGERS IN THE SENATE.
KEN STARR, HAPPY NEW YEAR TWO.
A WAY TO GO NOW.
FIRST OF ALL, YOUR OBSERVATION
OF THE SEVEN THAT WERE CHOSEN,
AND NAMED LAST HOUR?
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT, IF
MUCH?
>> I THINK THE SPEAKER CHOSE
WELL AND WISELY.
OTHER THAN I HAVE SOME
RESERVATIONS ABOUT JERRY NADLER
IN TERMS OF HIS COURTROOM
ABILITIES.
HE IS JUST TENDING TO BE, AS HE
WAS IN THE PRESS CONFERENCE,
JUST OVER THE TOP.
HE ALSO SAID EVERYTHING IS
ALREADY BEEN PROVEN.
SO THERE'S AN INCOHERENCE IN
JERRY NADLER'S APPROACH TO
THINGS.
BUT WE NOW HAVE THE FIELD
MARSHALS, THE GENERALS.
THAT REPORTING INTO THEIR
COMMANDER IN CHIEF, THE SPEAKER.
SHE IS GOING TO, I THINK,
CONTINUE TO BE GUIDING THIS
PROCESS.
WHICH IS, ABOVE ALL, ALL ABOUT
WITNESSES ON THE SENATE SIDE.
I THINK SHE HAS CHOSEN WELL AND
WISELY.
>> Bill: WHAT ADAM SCHIFF SAID
A MOMENT AGO, HE REFLECTED ON
YOUR TIME, 20, 21 YEARS AGO.
HE WAS ADDRESSING A QUESTION
ABOUT WITNESSES.
HE WAS SAYING THAT THIS TIME
AROUND IT'S NOT ABOUT SEX OR
UNSEEMLY MATTERS.
THE INFERENCE THAT HE APPLIED
THERE.
MY QUESTION TO YOU, AS A MATTER
OF LAW, AS A PROSECUTOR OR A
TRIAL MANAGER, YOU DON'T GET TO
PICK YOUR FACTS.
THE CASE IS WHAT IT IS.
WAS YOUR FEELING ON THE COMMENT
HE MADE THERE AS TO WHETHER OR
NOT WE WILL SEE WITNESSES?
DO YOU THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN OR
NOT?
>> IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN,
BECAUSE I THINK THE SENATE
MAJORITY LEADER IS FOLLOWING THE
CLINTON MODEL.
THERE IS A HUGE QUESTION -- WILL
THERE BE WITNESSES IN THE HOUSE
IMPEACHMENT MANAGERS DURING THE
CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DIFFERENTLY
CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESFERENTLY
CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESPERENTLY
CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESPERANTLY
CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESPERATELYW
CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESPERATELYN
CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESPERATELYE
CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESPERATELYD
TO CALL WITNESSES.
THEY WERE AND THEY WERE ABLE TO
DO THAT.
THEY WERE ABLE
TO TAKE.
THE CENTERS AGREED YEARS AGO,
"WE DON'T WANT ANY LIVE
WITNESSES, LET'S HAVE THE
MANAGERS MAKE THEIR CASE.
THEN THEY WILL VOTE TO HAVE WITH
THEN THEY WILL VOTE WHETHER TO
HAVE WITNESSES AT ALL.
PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO.
WE WILL HEAR THE DRUM BEAT.
WE'VE GOT TO HAVE WITNESSES.
BY THE WAY, THE WITNESSES CANNOT
INCLUDE THE BIDENS.
THAT'S JUST OUT.
WE WANT OUR WITNESSES BUT WE
DON'T WANT THE PRESIDENT TO --
>> Bill: SO BETWEEN PHASE ONE
AND PHASE TWO, WHAT IS YOUR
GUEST?
DO YOU HAVE WITNESSES IN THIS
TRIAL ARE NOT?
IF THE ANSWER IS NO, YOU GOT A
SHORT CASE HERE.
>> YOU DO.
THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PRESSURE
ON THE IMPEACHMENT MANAGERS TO
PERFORM WELL.
IF THEY OVERPLAYED THEIR HAND
THE WAY JERRY NADLER JUST DID,
"WE'VE ALREADY PROVEN THE CASE,"
IF YOU'VE PROVEN THE CASE YOU
DON'T NEED TO RETRY THE CASE.
THAT IS PRECISELY THE APPROACH
FROM 21 YEARS AGO.
WE DON'T NEED IT.
100 SENATORS SAYING WE DON'T
NEED IT, WE DON'T WANT IT.
THESE ARE REPUBLICANS AND
DEMOCRATS COMPLETELY AGREEING.
THAT WILL BE A REAL KEY.
CAN YOU PROVE THIS IS VERY
SERIOUS?
BUT WE REALLY NEED THESE
WITNESSES EVEN THOUGH
JERRY NADLER SAYS WE PROVED
BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.
>> Bill: LET ME GET TWO MORE
POINTS IN THE 2 MINUTES I HAVE
LEFT.
IF THAT'S THE CASE THAT YOU ARE
RIGHT ABOUT THE OUTCOME THEY
DON'T BRING WITNESSES AND BOTH
SIDES AGREE TO THAT AFTER A LOT
OF DEBATE BACK AND FORTH, THEN
YOU CAN VOTE ON THE ARTICLES AT
THAT POINT, COULD YOU NOT?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THAT WILL BE IT.
YOU THEN HAVE THE CLOSING
ARGUMENTS ON EACH SIDE.
BUT YOU ASKED ME TO PROTECT -- I
PREDICT THERE WILL BE WITNESSES.
WE HAVE HAD TOO MANY INDICATIONS
FROM TOO MANY DIFFERENT SENATORS
THAT THEY WANT THIS.
REMEMBER, AND CLINTON THERE WERE
100 SENATORS AGREEING ON THE
PROCESS.
HERE WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF
UNANIMITY.
>> Bill: WHO WAS A WITNESS,
THEN?
WHO APPEARS?
>> I THINK THE TOP ONE IS
JOHN BOLTON FOR THE DEMOCRATS.
AND THE REPUBLICANS REALLY DO
WANT HUNTER BIDEN.
>> Bill: SO YOU THINK 11?
>> THERE WILL BE A BETTER ROI
OLIVER HUNTER BIDEN.
WE ALREADY SAW IT THIS.
THIS WILL COME DOWN TO THE CHIEF
JUSTICE.
THIS IS A VIEW OF THE SENATE AND
51 VOTES IS ALL IT TAKES.
A MAJORITY TO CALL THE WITNESS.
>> Bill: YOU ARE PREDICTING
TODAY WE WILL HEAR FROM
JOHN BOLTON?
YOU WERE SAYING THAT AFTER BIDEN
COULD APPEAR AS A WITNESS COMMIT
YES OR NO?
>> YES IT'S A POSSIBILITY, BUT
IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN HOW FACE
ONE OF THE TRAIL GOES.
IF THE IMPEACHMENT MANAGERS
DON'T DO A FANTASTIC JOB, AND
THEY MAY NOT COME OF THIS CASE
MAY BE OVER.
>> Bill: CAN, THANK YOU.
LET'S TALK LATER IN THE WEEK AND
TAKE IT PIECE BY PIECE AND DAY
BY DAY.