WHY IM NOT CHURNING OUT PLANS LIKE A FACTORY.
BECAUSE IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT
TO ME THAT ANY PLAN THAT IM
PREPARED TO IMPLEMENT IS
ACTUALLY DOABLE.
ACTUALLY DOABLE. >> AND JOINING ME NOW IS
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BERNIE
SANDERS, THE INDEPENDENT SENATOR
FROM VERMONT RUNNING AS A
DEMOCRAT FOR THIS CAMPAIGN.
SENATOR SANDERS, WELCOME BACK TO
"MEET THE PRESS," SIR.
>> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU, CHUCK.
>> ITS FASCINATING IN OUR POLL.
I THINK ABOUT YOUR CANDIDACY
FROM 2015 AND SORT OF YOUR COME
FROM NOWHERE, INSURGENT
CANDIDACY.
HERE YOU HAVE CHANGED THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
A MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS WANT BIG, SUBSTANTIVE,OCRATS WANT
BIG, SUBSTANTIVE, TRANSFORMATIONAL CHANGE.
TRANSFORMATIONAL CHANGE. HOW FRUSTRATING IS IT TO YOU
THAT RIGHT NOW AMONG THOSE
VOTERS, THEYRE PICKING
ELIZABETH WARREN RIGHT NOW AND NOT YOU?H WARREN RIGHT NOW AND
NOT YOU?
>> WELL, THATS IN YOUR POLL. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.R POLL.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. >> THERE ARE THREE OTHER POLLS
THAT CAME OUT IN THE LAST WEEK
OR TWO THAT HAD US IN A STRONG
SECOND PLACE.
SECOND PLACE. AND LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING,
CHUCK.
CHUCK.
LET ME TELL YOU WHY WERE GOING TO WIN THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION
AND BEAT DONALD TRUMP.
THAT IS THAT THE WORKING CLASS
OF THIS COUNTRY IS SICK AND
TIRED OF WORKING LONGER HOURS
FOR LOWER WAGES. THEYRE SICK AND TIRED OF THREE
PEOPLE IN AMERICA OWNING MORE
WEALTH THAN THE BOTTOM HALF OF
AMERICA.
SICK AND TIRED OF 50% OF AMERICAN WORKERS LIVING PAYCHECK
TO PAYCHECK AND BEING THE ONLY
MAJOR COUNTRY ON EARTH NOT TO
GUARANTEE HEALTH CARE TO ALL
PEOPLE.
THAT IS WHY WERE GOING TO WIN THIS ELECTION.RE GOING TO WIN
THIS ELECTION.
>> WELL, AS I WAS SAYING, I FEEL LIKE MESSAGE-WISE, YOURE, I FEEL
LIKE MESSAGE-WISE, YOURE WINNING THE ARGUMENT.
VOTER-WISE, YOU STILL HAVE A
WAYS TO GO.
YOU KNOW, WHY YOU AND NOT
ELIZABETH WARREN?
ELIZABETH WARREN?
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THOSE DEMOCRATS THAT WANT THESESE
DEMOCRATS THAT WANT THESE TRANSFORMATIONAL CHANGES?
TRANSFORMATIONAL CHANGES? THEY LOOK AT THE TWO OF YOU AND
SAY, YES, THERE ARE A FEW
DIFFERENCES HERE AND THERE, BUT THEYRE BOTH ADVOCATING THAT BIG
TRANSFORMATIONAL CHANGE.
TRANSFORMATIONAL CHANGE.
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, ELIZABETH IS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, AND ALL I
CAN SAY IS THE FOLLOWING.
WHAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IS THAT
FOR DECADES NOW, THERE HAVE BEEN GREAT SPEECHES, GREATE HAVE BEEN
GREAT SPEECHES, GREAT LEGISLATION, GREAT PLANS ABOUT
HOW TO MOVE THE WORKING CLASS OF
THIS COUNTRY FORWARD. AND YET IN THE LAST 30 YEARS,
UNBELIEVABLY, THE TOP 1% HAS
SEEN A 21% INCREASE -- $21
TRILLION INCREASE IN THEIR
WEALTH WHILE THE BOTTOM HALF
HAVE FALLEN EVEN FURTHER BEHIND.
IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT WE NEED IN
THIS COUNTRY IS A MASS MOVEMENT
OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, WHICH I
AM PREPARED TO LEAD AS
PRESIDENT, TO TAKE ON WALL
STREET, TO TAKE ON THE DRUG
COMPANIES WHO ARE RIPPING US OFF
EVERY SINGLE DAY, TO TAKE ON THE
INSURANCE COMPANIES, TO TAKE ON
THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY, WHICH
IS LITERALLY DESTROYING THIS
PLANET.
WHAT WE NEED IS A POLITICAL REVOLUTION, AND I THINK I AM THE
ONLY CANDIDATE WHO HAS BEEN
CLEAR ABOUT THAT, WHO HAS THE
CAPABILITY OF DOING THAT, AND
DEFEATING DONALD TRUMP IN THE
PROCESS.
>> YOURE GETTING A LOT OF
ADVICE THESE DAYS FROM A LOT OF
FRIENDS.
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" STORY
EARLIER THIS WEEK WAS FILLED
WITH A LOT OF IT.
I WANT TO SHOW YOU AN EXCERPT.
A DEEPER CHALLENGE CONFRONTING
HIS AIDES AND SUPPORTERS AFTER
NEARLY FOUR DECADES OF RUNNING
AND USUALLY WINNING,
ICONOCLASTIC CAMPAIGNS ON HIS
OWN TERMS, HE IS DEEPLY RELUCTANT TO CHANGE HIS
APPROACH.
APPROACH. AND YOUVE HAD A LOT OF -- THESE
ARE PEOPLE VERY MUCH SUPPORTERS
OF YOU WHO ARE SAYING IT SOUNDS
TOO MUCH LIKE 2016.
YOU HAVE TO REJIGGER THINGS A
LITTLE BIT.
BE MORE PERSONABLE.
HOW ARE YOU ACCEPTING THIS ADVICE? YOU ACCEPTING THIS
ADVICE?
>> WELL, LOOK, TWO THINGS.
PEOPLE SAY, BERNIE, YOU KNOW, YOURE REPETITIOUS., YOU KNOW,
YOURE REPETITIOUS. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE RICH
GETTING RICHER AND 40 MILLION
PEOPLE LIVING IN POVERTY.
YOU ARE TALK ABOUTING SO MANY
OLD PEOPLE WHO CANNOT AFFORD
THEIR MEDICINE AND SO FORTH. YOU KNOW WHAT, CHUCK? FORTH.
YOU KNOW WHAT, CHUCK? HERES A PROMISE I WILL MAKE TO
YOU.
WHEN THE POOR GET RICHER AND THE
RICH GET POORER, WHEN ALL OF OUR
PEOPLE HAVE HEALTH CARE AS A
RIGHT, WHEN WE ARE LEADING THE
WORLD IN THE FIGHT AGAINST
CLIMATE CHANGE, YOU KNOW WHAT, I
WILL CHANGE WHAT I AM SAYING.
SO ITS NOT ME THATS BEING REPETITIOUS.E THATS BEING
REPETITIOUS.
IT IS WHAT IS GOING ON IN SOCIETY CONTINUES TO FAVOR THE
PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE WEALTH AND
THE POWER WHILE ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY PEOPLE ARE WORKING TWO
OR THREE JOBS.
AND I UNDERSTAND IT.
I KEEP HAMMERING AWAY AT THAT
ISSUE BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT IN THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY IN THEIN
THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD, WE DONT
NEED 45 MILLION PEOPLE
STRUGGLING WITH STUDENT DEBT.
THOSE ARE THE ISSUES I WILL
CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT, AND
THOSE ARE THE ISSUES WELL WIN ON.SE ARE THE ISSUES WELL WIN
ON.
>> IM VERY CURIOUS OF WHAT YOU MAKE OF WHATS HAPPENING IN THE
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ON THE
DEMOCRATIC SIDE.
DEMOCRATIC SIDE.
BECAUSE IT DOES FEEL A BIT LIKE
ITS SORT OF INSIDER/OUTSIDER. ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ, WHO
WAS A VOLUNTEER IN YOUR
CAMPAIGN, WAS VERY UPSET WITH NANCY PELOSI AND SAID, WHENTH
NANCY PELOSI AND SAID, WHEN THESE COMMENTS FIRST STARTED, I
KIND OF THOUGHT SHE WAS KEEPING
THE PROGRESS I HAVE FLANK AT
MORE OF AN ARMS DISTANCE IN
ORDER TO PROTECT MORE MODERATE
MEMBERS, WHICH I UNDERSTOOD.
BUT THE PERSISTENT SINGLING OUT,
IT GOT TO A POINT WHERE IT WAS JUST OUTRIGHT DISRESPECTFUL, THE
EXPLICIT SINGLING OUT OF NEWLY
ELECTED WOMEN OF COLOR.
IS THIS PART OF THIS BIGGER
DISRUPTION YOU HELPED LEAD FOUR
YEARS AGO WHERE THE PARTY IS
JUST HAVING GROWING PAINS?
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS
DISPUTE?
>> CHUCK, THIS IS WHAT I THINK.
IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT THE
FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY AND THE
FUTURE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
RESTS WITH YOUNG PEOPLE.
AND IM VERY PROUD, BY THE WAY,
IN VIRTUALLY EVERY POLL THAT I
HAVE SEEN, WE ARE WINNING PEOPLE
UNDER 45 OR 50 YEARS OF AGE AND
YOUNGER.
>> YOU DO WELL OF YOUNGER VOTERS
IN OUR POLL AS WELL, YEAH. >> OKAY.OLL AS WELL, YEAH.
>> OKAY. AND WHAT ALEXANDRIA AND OTHER
YOUNG WOMEN AND WOMEN OF COLOR
ARE SAYING, WE HAVE GOT TO REACH
OUT TO YOUNG PEOPLE.
WE HAVE GOT TO HEAL THE PAIN OF
THE WORKING CLASS OF THIS
COUNTRY.
AND THAT IS CAUSING SOME POLITICAL DISRUPTION WITHIN THE
LEADERSHIP OF THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY.
AND LET ME GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE
WHERE I AM VERY CONCERNED.
I HAVE HELPED LEAD THE EFFORT TO
EXPAND COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS
IN THIS COUNTRY.
RIGHT NOW THERES LEGISLATION IN
THE HOUSE, THE DEMOCRATIC HOUSE, TO CUT COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS,
TO CUT COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS BY 20%.
BY 20%.
UNACCEPTABLE.
SO I SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, ALEXANDRIAS AND THE OTHER
WOMENS DESIRE TO BRING MORE
PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE,
WORKING CLASS PEOPLE, INTO THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
THAT IS THE FUTURE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.E OF THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
>> DO YOU THINK SHES BEING TOO TOUGH ON THEM?K SHES BEING TOO
TOUGH ON THEM?
>> I THINK A LITTLE BIT. YOU CANNOT IGNORE THE YOUNG
PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY WHO ARE
PASSIONATE ABOUT ECONOMIC AND RACIAL AND SOCIAL ANDOMIC AND
RACIAL AND SOCIAL AND
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.
YOU GOT TO BRING THEM IN, NOT ALIENATE THEM.NG THEM IN, NOT
ALIENATE THEM.
>> IM CURIOUS.
YOURE ONE OF SEVEN SENATORS
RUNNING.
WE HAVE THIS CRISIS AT THE BORDER, UNSUSTAINABLET THE
BORDER, UNSUSTAINABLE
CONDITIONS, AND NOW EVEN REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING THEY
THINK THESE CONDITIONS NEED TO
CHANGE.
CHANGE.
WHAT COULD YOU GUYS DO RIGHT NOW IN THE SENATE? GUYS DO RIGHT NOW
IN THE SENATE?
WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU COULD DO
NOW IN THE SENATE?
I KNOW YOU HAVE PLANS TO DO
SOMETHING IF YOURE ELECTED
PRESIDENT, BUT WHAT DO YOU PLAN
ON DOING IN THE SENATE IN THE
NEXT COUPLE WEEKS?
>> WELL, THE IMMEDIATE CRISIS IS THAT WE CANNOT BE SEPARATINGS IS
THAT WE CANNOT BE SEPARATING CHILDREN FROM THEIR PARENTS.
YOU CANNOT BE HAVING UNSANITARY,
DISGRACEFUL CONDITIONS IN WHICH
WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND PEOPLE
ARE LIVING.
ARE LIVING. THIS IS THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY
ON EARTH.
WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT IF PEOPLE
TRAVEL A THOUSAND MILES WITH
THEIR CHILDREN, WHILE THEYRE AWAITING THE ASYLUM PROCEEDINGS,
THEY ARE TREATED WITH RESPECT
AND DIGNITY AND AS HUMAN BEINGS.
>> IS THERE SOMETHING MORE, THOUGH, THAT YOU COULD DO, BAND
TOGETHER ALMOST AS A
PRESIDENTIAL CAUCUS AND TRY TO
DEMAND SOME OF THESE CHANGES? IT SEEMS AS IF ITS A LOT OFS?
IT SEEMS AS IF ITS A LOT OF RHETORIC, BUT WHAT COULD YOU
GUYS BRING FROM THE CAMPAIGN
TRAIL?
>> WELL, I THINK WE CAN RAISE
CONSCIOUSNESS ABOUT THIS ISSUE
AND UNDERSTAND THAT DESPERATE
PEOPLE WHO ARE FLEEING VIOLENCE IN HONDURAS AND OTHER COUNTRIES
WITH THEIR LITTLE CHILDREN,
THESE ARE NOT CRIMINALS.
THESE ARE DESPERATE PEOPLE WHO DESERVE TO HAVE AN ASYLUME WHO
DESERVE TO HAVE AN ASYLUM PROCESS AND TO BE, IF POSSIBLE,
NOT DETAINED AT ALL.
GO WITH THEIR RELATIVES AND
FRIENDS WHILE AWAITING PROCEEDINGS.E AWAITING
PROCEEDINGS.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, CHUCK, WE HAVE GOT TO DO WHAT THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE WANT, AND THAT IS
COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM AND A PATH TOWARD CITIZENSHIPORM
AND A PATH TOWARD CITIZENSHIP FOR 11 MILLION UNDOCUMENTED.
WE NEED TO PROVIDE IMMEDIATE