>> As more people vote by mail, the Trump campaign has revisited its latest plan to
undermine democratic process and bypass election results, by placing GOP loyalists as electors
in battleground states. So, this is an act that might get challenged in the courts, but
it is important to know what the Trump campaign is thinking and how they plan on challenging
the popular votes in various states.
So, sources in the Republican Party, at both state and national levels say that the campaign
is considering a plan to ''bypass'' the popular vote results, And install its own electors
in key battleground states where the legislature's are controlled by Republicans. So this is
how their plan would work, with a justification based on claims of rampant fraud, Trump would
ask state legislators to set aside the popular vote and exercise their power to choose a
slate of electors directly.
The longer Trump succeeds in keeping the vote count in doubt, the more pressure legislators
will feel to act before the safe-harbor deadline expires. So the campaign plans to, as I mentioned,
target swing states, The Trump campaigns plans would focus on pivotal swing states. With
Republican-led legislators, including Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania
and Wisconsin, Arizona and Florida also have Republican governors, while the latter states
have Democratic governors.
And so John, I wanna get your thoughts on this because, Jake and I engaged in a little
bit of a debate yesterday he felt, Weirdly and shockingly confident in calling the election
a month out and he believes that Biden's gonna win by a landslide. And he shared some of
the differences between the Election in 2016 and what we're experiencing now, I do wanna
note that Hillary Clinton in October of 2016 held a gigantic national lead over Trump.
I think it was about 12% so that's why I refuse to be overly confident, I refuse to be confident,
actually I prefer to be pessimistic and then pleasantly surprised. But nonetheless, the
big wild card in this election is the pandemic and is all the different ways in which the
Trump campaign with the help of Republicans is Attempting to cheat his way to victory.
Right, dismantling the post office stents like his electors that I just described right
now and we're seeing all these cases all over the country and I think Genk disagrees with
me. But I think that it could really have an impact on the outcome of the election if
democrats don't do something about it immediately.
>> Yeah, well I mean, I definitely think that they should be ready not only for this plan,
but for others as well. I take a little bit of issue with the comparison cuz I don't think
anyone should be complacent, everyone should vote, a lot of you should have already voted
honestly, you could do it now.
But you could have one tab that has a speaking the other tab you could be registering getting
your ballot together all that. But I mean, I'm looking at The RealClearPolitics 2016
national poll like day by day thing, and she was at four point six nationally on October
7.
Biden's two to three times that, now that doesn't mean that Biden's going to win the
Electoral College is a tricky pickle almost sort of think. But i do think, regardless
of what happens in the polls, we do have to be ready for the macanations behind the scene.
The legislature is just saying screw the results we're gonna give the votes to whoever we want
I don't think that's the most likely thing they are to do because I think that that's
pretty see through.
I think that most Americans would understand that if some state decided, okay, Biden won
but we're giving the votes to Trump anyway, then we don't have a democracy. At that point
it's all a sham if one state can do it, then every state can do it and you don't have a
democracy.
But I think The Supreme Court potentially stepping in stopping the votes from being
counted and stuff like that. That is a more likely hypothetical especially because, it's
kind of a hypothetical that we've already played out on the national stage in an example
like this. But this one should definitely be something that teams of lawyers working
for The Democratic Party are getting ready for.
They cannot afford to be blindsided by this, a day or a week after the election.
>> So one of Trumps campaign advisors, legal advisor, spoke to the Atlantic and made it
clear that the effort in basically implementing Trump's electors, would be framed as protecting
the will of the people.
Literally the exact opposite, of what they're actually doing so, the legal adviser to the
Trump campaign who refused to identify himself for this story, gave this quote to the Atlantic.
The state legislators will say, all right, we've been given this constitutional power.
We don't think the results of our own state are accurate, so here's our slate of electors
that we think properly reflect the results of our state.
The adviser said that by extending long windows for mail-in ballots to be counted after Election
Day, Democrats have exposed the tabulation process to allegations of inaccuracy and fraud.
So basically they're going to try to take advantage of the fact that Democrats have
made it easier for people who wanna vote to vote.
Republicans in the Trump campaign in particular are going to take that and I mean, we've already
seen a lot of it in the news, basically put out these allegations of fraud, and abuse,
and nonsense. And so- >> Can i ask you a question?
>> Of course you can,
>> So you're doing a great job of laying out what the plan is and the article explains
how they would pitch it, I think it would be very see through. Hopefully the media wouldn't
decide that this is a moment they need to be neutral and not call it for what it is.
But the scenario that you're sketching out, what does your gut say, would they try to
do it? Could you imagine them actually trying to do that in Florida or yeah?
>> Yeah. >> John,John, They're performing hysterectomy's
on immigrant women in detention centers and people talked about it for a day it's transparent.
Everything that this campaign has done, everything that Trump administration has done in their
cruelty and their selfishness and their incompetence. They've been transparent about all of it,
are we really gonna wait for the media to save us if they try to steal the election
using this strategy? Come on, all takes is for Trump to do another sideshow Bob nonsense
maneuver and all of a sudden it's whoops, squirrel, look at what Trump tweeted, I mean
that's what happens every day, it happens every day.
>> He's gonna accidentally trip and get a plastic bag wrapped around his head or something,
he now knows the template to get the media distracted totally. Me asking you the question
is not me saying I can't imagine it happening, I hope that it won't come to that because
that really is the fall of America type stuff.
I mean, obviously the suppression is absolutely barbaric that they're already doing. But I
can't imagine anything more see through than the states deciding that we're just gonna
do whatever we want at this point. So much else would become just a sham, when they
do that.