STARTING AT DAWN.
SHANNON.
>> Shannon: GRIFF JENKINS,
THANK YOU.
LET’S TALK SOME MORE TONIGHT
ABOUT THE STATE OF THE CRISIS ON
OUR SEVEN BORDER IN THIS LATEST
MASSIVE CARAVAN WITH THE AUTHOR
OF THE PROPOSED NEW BORDER
SAFETY AND SECURITY ACT, TEXAS
COMMERCE BEEN CHIP ROY.
WELCOME BACK, CONGRESSMAN.
>> GOOD TO BE ON, SHANNON.
>> Shannon: LET ME ASK YOU
PARTLY, WILL THIS MEASURE GO
ANYWHERE?
REPUBLICANS ARE IN THE MINORITY
AND THERE DOESN’T SEEM TO BE A
BIG APPETITE FOR GETTING
SOMETHING DONE AT THE BORDER.
>> IF THERE IS ZERO CHANCE THAT
ANYTHING IS GOING TO GET DONE ON
THE BORDER UNDER THIS IT
ADMINISTRATION.
A MUSCLE REPUBLICANS GET SERIOUS
BETWEEN NOW AND SEPTEMBER 30TH
WHEN IT COMES TO FUNDING.
WHY ARE WE FUNDING A DEPARTMENT
OF HOMELAND SECURITY THAT
REFUSES TO SECURE THE BORDER?
PRESIDENT GOES DOWN AND HE FINDS
HIS WAY TO UVALDE, TEXAS.
WE ARE ALL HEARTBROKEN OVER WHAT
HAPPENED THERE.
WITH BEEN WATCHING UVALDE AND
ALL OF SOUTH TEXAS UNDER
CONSTANT ASSAULT FOR THE
ENTIRETY OF THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION.
RANCHERS WHO ARE HAVING THEIR
RANCHES OVERRUN AND NOW YOU GOT
A CARAVAN OF 15,000 PEOPLE
COMING UP TO THE BOARD AN END
NOW I’M TALKING TO DPS TODAY,
TEXAS DPS, AND THEY’RE TELLING
ME THAT CARTELS ARE NOW
OPERATING IN TEXAS OVER
100 MILES INTO THE BORDER INTO
TEXAS.
THAT’S WHAT’S HAPPENING.
AND WHAT HAPPENED LAST THURSDAY
IN THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE?
THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD
LEGISLATION THAT WOULD BAKE ME A
CRIMINAL AND EVERY RANCHER
CRIMINAL IN TEXAS IF WE HAVE A
20 GAUGE SINGLE BARREL SHOTGUN
FOR 20 TO PROPPED UP IN THE
CORNER AND WE HAVE KIDS IN OUR
HOUSE.
THESE RANCHERS ARE USING THESE
WEAPONS, THEY’RE GIVING THEM TO
THEIR KIDS TO DEFEND THEMSELVES
AND THAT’S WHAT DEMOCRATS WANT
TO DO, POLITICIZE A TRAGEDY.
AND TO DO THAT, TO UNDERMINE THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE’S ABILITY TO
DEFEND THEMSELVES WHEN THE
SADNESS DURATION REFUSES TO.
A FLAT OUT REFUSES TO SECURE THE
BORDER.
AND IT’S INTENTIONAL.
YOU SAW THE REPORTING WHERE HE
SAYING YOU’VE GOT PEOPLE COMING
UP HERE SAYING YOU’VE GOT TO LET
US IN.
THEY ARE GOING TO COME UP TO THE
BORDER, BORDER PATROL IS GOING
TO HAVE TO PROCESS THEM AND
GUESS WHAT CARTELS ARE GOING TO
BE DOING IN THE MEANTIME?
RUNNING UP BETWEEN THE PORTS OF
ENTRY, CARRYING MORE FENTANYL IN
AND ENDANGERING TEXANS AT ALL OF
AMERICA.
>> Shannon: I WANT TO READ
SOMETHING FROM HUMAN RIGHTS
WATCH BECAUSE THE HEADLINE IS
THE U.S. IS PLAIN POLITICS WITH
MIGRANT LIVES.
THEY RECOGNIZE THERE IS AN
UNSUSTAINABLE SITUATION AT THE
BORDER BUT THEY SAY THIS, THIS
IS THEIR TAKE.
EXPULSIONS, ACTUALLY KICKING
PEOPLE OUT, MAKE THE BORDER LESS
SAFE, PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE WHO
MAKE REPEATED DANGEROUS ATTEMPTS
TO CROSS EACH TIME MIGRANTS AND
ASYLUM-SEEKERS ARE OFTEN
INCREASINGLY EXHAUSTED,
DEHYDRATED, SICK.
ONCE EXPELLED THERE MET WITH
CRUELTY AND TARGETED VIOLENCE IN
NORTHERN MEXICO, REMOTE AREAS OF
THE JUNGLE IN CENTRAL AMERICA,
OR THEIR COUNTRIES OF ORIGIN.
YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS
PROBLEM MANY TIMES AND ABOUT THE
FACT THAT THESE ARE
HUMAN BEINGS, THESE ARE
CHILDREN, THESE ARE MOMS AND
DADS, THESE ARE SINGLE PEOPLE,
BUT THESE ARE HUMAN BEINGS.
THEY ARE CLEARLY FACING
MISTREATMENT, BUT WHAT YOU MAKE
OF HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH’S
ASSESSMENT THAT IT’S BECAUSE OF
EXPULSION THEY ARE IN EVEN MORE
DANGER?
>> THEY ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE FACT
THAT THEY ARE IN DANGER.
BUT WHAT THEY ARE WRONG ABOUT IS
WHAT’S CAUSING IT, RIGHT?
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS
ACTUALLY MAKING IT WORSE BY
CREATING A MAGNET, AND FOR ALL
OF YOUR VIEWERS OUT THERE, JUST
UNDERSTAND THE BASELINE LAW IN
THE UNITED STATES IS THAT THE
BORDER HAS TO BE SECURE AND WE
HAVE TO HAVE OPERATIONAL CONTROL
OF IT.
WE HAVE EXCEPTIONS FOR ASYLUM,
FOR SPECIFIC, CREDIBLE FEAR OF
PERSECUTION, RELIGIOUS BELIEFS,
AND ACTUAL PERSECUTION AND
INSTEAD THEY ARE ALLOWING ASYLUM
TO SWALLOW THE RULE.
SO THEY ALLOW EVERYBODY TO COME
TO THE UNITED STATES, CLAIM
ASYLUM, AND THEN GET RELEASED IN
THE UNITED STATES.
LOOK AT THE APRIL NUMBERS.
234,000 APPREHENSIONS.
117,000 WERE RELEASED.
THAT’S EVEN WITH TITLE 42 STILL
IN PLACE.
IF YOU DO THAT I’M A WHAT
HAPPENS?
YOU GET A CARAVAN OF 15,000.
GET MORE PEOPLE COMING.
YOU GET MORE FENTANYL COMING.
IF GOT MORE MONEY GOING TO
CARTELS, AND THEY KNOW THIS.
ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS, THEY
KNOW IT.
>> Shannon: WHO BENEFITS BY
THIS DISASTER SITUATION AT THE
BORDER?
WHITE THINK THERE’S SOME, YOU
KNOW, OVERWHELMING COMING
TOGETHER TO TRY TO FIND A
SOLUTION?
I MEAN, WHO BENEFITS BY THESE
PEOPLE BEING IN THESE TERRIBLE
SITUATIONS AND BORDER PATROL
AGENTS OUT THERE RISKING THEIR
LIVES LITERALLY EVERY DAY.
>> YOU CAN’T LOOK AT THIS ANY
OTHER WAY THAN THE DEMOCRATS ARE
USING THIS FOR CROSS POLITICAL
PURPOSES.
NOT ONE SINGLE DEMOCRAT, NOT
ONE, HAS BEEN WILLING TO STEP UP
AND CROSS THE LINE AND COME OVER
TO THE REPUBLICAN SIDE OF THE
ISLAND SAY WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO
ENFORCE TITLE 42 OR WE SHOULD AT
LEAST MODIFY OUR ROLES --
>> Shannon: LET ME ASK YOU.
WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE OR CONGRESS
AND HENRY CUELLAR, THERE ARE
SENATORS IN ARIZONA AS WELL SAY
THEY THINK THE TITLE 42 MOVE IS
THE WRONG ONE.
DO YOU GIVE THEM SOME CREDIT FOR
MEETING YOU THERE?
>> WE HAVE A DISCHARGE PETITION
ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES, NOT ONE SICKLE
DEMOCRAT HAS SIGNED THE
DISCHARGE POSITION TO ACTUALLY
PASS A LOT TO SAY WE ARE GOING
TO CONTINUE TO FORCE TITLE 42 AS
LONG AS THERE IS A STATE OF
EMERGENCY, BUT IMPORTANT, GREAT,
YES, I’M GLAD THERE’S A HANDFUL
OF DIM GRAPHS, KYRSTEN SINEMA,
SO OTHERS WHO HAVE SAID MAYBE WE
SHOULDN’T HAVE TITLE 42, BUT
TITLE 42 IS A BAND-AID ON A
GUNSHOT WOUND.
WE ACTUALLY NEED TO TELL THE
WORLD IF YOU COME TO THE
UNITED STATES, YOU HAVE TO
FOLLOW THESE RULES, YOU’RE GOING
TO FOLLOW THESE RULES, YOU’RE
GOING TO BE DETAINED FOR THE
ENTIRETY OF AN ADJUDICATION OF
AN ACTUAL ASYLUM CLAIM AND THEN
YOU’LL BE TURNED -- AND YOU’LL
BE TURNED AWAY IF WE ARE NOT
DETAINING YOU.
IF YOU DO THAT, THAT’S WITH THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SHE DID,
BUT NUMBERS GO DOWN.
THEY BECOME MANAGEABLE.
HERE’S THE IMPORTANT PART.
TO THE PART ABOUT CARING FOR
PEOPLE.
WE NEED TO BE EXPORTING THE RULE
OF LAW AND IMPROVING THE WESTERN
HEMISPHERE TO BEAT BACK ON
RATHER THAN IMPORTING
LAWLESSNESS, IMPORTING FENTANYL
AND ENDANGERING AMERICANS.
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS
DOING IT PURPOSELY FOR CRASS
POLITICAL REASONS AND THEY ARE
ENDANGERING AMERICANS AND
MIGRANTS IN THE PROCESS.
>> Shannon: THE BORDER IS A
DISASTER AND VERY DANGEROUS FOR
PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES, WE KNOW
YOU ARE THERE ON THE FRONT LINES
IN TEXAS, SO CONGRESSMAN,
THANK YOU FOR STOPPING TO TALK
ABOUT IT AND HOPEFULLY ONE DAY
WE WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT
ACTUALLY INVOLVES SOME PROGRESS.