I'd done the first so-called one person feminist show
in London
and the work I tried to do, that was to use the skills I'd learnt at
the Royal Academy Schools of drawing and painting
and they were supposed to be ironic
and they were ironic, but the debate was between me and my friends, not between the wider public.
So when it went out of course they appeared to be quite shocking.
So this is one of them.
This one is called 'Good Enough to Eat'
and this one is 'Take One Lemon'.
It doesn't look very much different to something
that any of the the pop artists might have been doing at the time.
But my thoughts were in a different place.
I was hearing and talking about women and food all the time.
So it was talking about women as recipes.
The show was closed down.
It was thought of being too pornographic.
Now, they didn't mind the women and the sandwiches
what they did mind was why I altered the male body.
because I gave Capital America breasts and nice underwear and things.
When the Gallery Director said "well, what don't you like about it?" to this policeman
he said "well, it was the way she treated the men, we thought that was disgusting!"
When I went in the following day I just thought oh
so I started gathering things together, and I said where's the bunny boy?
And nobody could find it.
And then the PR guy said "I know who's got it".
Ah, here he is.
He was very suspicious because the people from the bunny club had turned up at the opening
I mean, obviously wanted to make something out of him.
So I had to re-draw it, but basically it's the same except, I made him older.
But it was such a horrible experience actually
because there were guys knocking on the door all the time and cameras and things
and one photographer broke a window.
And I remember my partner saying
"you know, if they don't devalue the pound tomorrow you're going to be on the front page of the Mirror"
and I went oh!
I felt totally ill the whole night. They devalued the pound! Praise the Lord!
Failure's a kind of success.
So although that show was closed down by the police
it was a success because it then meant that I had to think more deeply about things.
I decided I would find out more about why these issues are important.
So that's when I said okay, I'm not going to do this for a while I'm going to look at it in a documentary way
I'm going to do a research and I'm going to try and find a way to do it as art.
In the '70s I was quite comfortable about producing work
which was seen as deeply political at the time
I just saw it as part of life.
Photography and documentation weren't seen as art
and of course we were criticised for producing this work which was not just for decoration
but actually went more into the subject matter.
The three of us, three artists
Kay Hunt, myself and Mary Kelly.
We had been working together in many ways, we were all part of the artists' union.
Kay was key to the whole thing.
Unfortunately she died not so long ago.
And she said to us
you know, I would like to do something about the metal box industry where my family worked.
The first thing was to explore it in a quiet way.
So I went into the factory and just with a little camera, just took photographs and slides.
So we could see what kind of things I might pick up from that.
The equal pay legislation was brought in over a period, I think, of five years.
We could see what was happening within the factory.
There began to be changes in shifts
they actually were slipping the women's grades down, rather than it raising their wages up
a lot of it was slipping down because they were grading them as lower.
But one of the things that I realised as I was working through this
was that the jobs were shifting overseas
or they were shifting to people's homes.
So that meant that I then, began to look at home workers.
I met a woman called Helen Ede
and she was trying to recruit the home workers so that they could get the right rates of pay.
Now, this woman in particular, when we went to interview her, she was assembling tax forms
and immediately she said this is Government work.
Her house was full, everywhere, was full of these boxes
This woman was getting something like 4p an hour.
Working with Helen Ede she had connection with the politics of the time
and she fed it through and there was a debate up in Parliament about the rates of home workers
working on Government work and they won!
They got the right rates, which was fantastic.