sts
credit meanwhile the body to meet the press this past sunday
and he was invited to talk about the early morning hot
breaking news that happened on sunday
about uh...
and we're still in flight contact to muscat
and david gregory was that
interviewing glenn greenwald
and he had this dissecting clams
first we did was the least beauty study indicates that i think there'll be lots
of questions about snowed in and leaks
and but he was sort of kind of building up to something
and i could and although a bit of the previous question in this e you can see
in building up to this
and then he unleashes the final question to greenwald
and this is where everyone's talking about let's let's listen
you if you are uh... upon assist here you have a point of view you are
columnist you're also a lawyer
you do not disputed edward snowden has broken the law do you
no i think he is very clear about the fact that he did it because his
conscience compelled him to do so just like daniel ellsberg did fifty years ago
when he released the pentagon papers and also admits that he broke the law uh...
i think the question though is how can he be charged with espionage he didn't
work for a foreign government he could have sold this information for millions
of dollars in enrich themselves he didn't do any of that either he stepped
forward and as we want people to be one of them are pretty as a government
official burned of wrongdoing and exposed as we could have a democratic
debate about the spine system do we really want to put people like that in
prison for life
com when all they're doing is telling us the citizens what our political
officials are doing in the dark
vital question before for you but i'd like you to hang around i destroyed if
he wins it here as well
uh... to the extent that you have aided in abetted
snowed even in its current
movements
why shouldn't you
mystery and we'll be charged with a crime
he jess dash going greenwalds
to the extent they give eighty database norian years current movements
why shooting you mister greenwald
be charged with the crime
now these may include the previous question is because
all those things
david gregory mentioned that greenwald its
a columnist for the point of view
a blogger i think you mention if not if you didn't mention it dead so did
mention that thing really bothers a blogger
any lawyer
but never had mentioned a gun greenwald as a journalist
and then
david gregory
goes ahead and as a glenn greenwald eight shuttle s regardless of what
david gregory thanks
he asks him
why shouldn't he be prosecuted
to tell you what's credit he obviously i mean i mean after teased us a price here
glenn greenwald completely own
ends give a good witness list
i think it's pretty extraordinary that anybody who called himself the
journalist would publicly news about whether or not under journalist
should be charged with felony exp assumption in your question david is
completely without evidence the idea that i hated nevada them in any way this
scandal that arose in washington before our stories began was about the fact the
obama administration is trying to criminalize investigative journalism by
going through the the emails and phone records of eighty reporters accusing the
fox news journalist um... the theory that you just embrace being a
co-conspirator with felony in felonies for working with sources if you want to
brace that period means that every investigative journalist in the united
states who works with their sources who receives classified information is a
criminal and it's precisely those theories in precisely that climate that
has become so menacing in the united states is by the new yorkers day mayor
said investigative reporting has come to a standstill her word as a result of the
theories that you just reference well the question of who's a journalist maybe
up to a debate with regard to what you're doing and of course
anybody who's watching this understand i was asking a question that question has
been raised by lawmakers as well i'm not embracing anything uh... but obviously i
take your point
so good greenwalds
then treats that that is dollars and your data gregory
who need the government to try to criminalize journalism when you have
david gregory to do it
now meet the press is still going on
some production assistant or producer
is looking on twitter obviously
and sees greenwalt weekdays
tells david rhetoric so david let me respond on air
delta part of the tactics of this in part of the debate is frankly around
journalism and glenn greenwald referenced it
when i asked him a question about whether he should or will face charges
which has been raised in you know i rode knowledge there is a uh... a debate on
twitter that goes on on line about this even as we're speaking in here's what
uh... greenwald list we doctors appearances morning who needs the
government to try to criminalize journalism
when you have david gray agreed to do it
and i want to directly take that on because this is the problem with someone
who claims that he's a journalist
would object to a journalist raising questions which is not actually in
bracing any particular point of view and that's part of the tactics of the debate
here when in fact lawmakers have question
is a question about his role in this are the guardians role in all of this it is
actually part of the debate
rather than going after the questioner he could take on the issues and he had
an opportunity to do that here on meet the press
and i think he did
that's exactly what he did and it kind of his response to step dad really
briefly is that
that question
should not even be raise in the practice of investigative journalism dot is the
planet and and not only did gregory tpke pushed out of that here he actually
included the guardian yes
not always the guardian which surprised and cluster use papon these
organizations the these mainstream eric and news organizations have increasing
the guardian
they u_k_ paper
whatever the case may be if fine
but listen
that wasn't just really we just take a delivery for him saying spotted the bank
i was just no question that any good journalist would
he wasn't just asking a question
peace consistently
setup that question in a way to make to put down greenwald in bad light
it wasn't just uh... uh... you know a straight up and down
partisan without china personally gender question he cut consistently
it and then the extent to which ended in a bad it snowed in
as they
eva's everything but journalist
i mean it's just it's just unbelievable
anne chuck todd after what we just heard said
back to all of that wondered
how much was greenwald involved it's nine did he have a role beyond being a
receiver of this information
this is that insists this is not
the issue here
the issue is
what's in those documents
the fact that the american government
under the n_s_a_ is spying
on americans
data mining i mean you know i don't know if i would u_n_ i carry the specific are
not sure about that word i think that
more challenging lee unfortunately some people
we're very credible
uh... cast some doubt on some aspects of this report
but yes whatever the case may be dot is what the issues and i think the other
really important thing is listen to what thoughts set he said
did he do anything besides just receive this information
and as greenwald as anybody else jane mayer anybody who knows anything about
this field
you don't just receive information as a journalist you don't just sit there and
some of those all you know what i have this aspect of government nova this or
corporate it is
your level of the would you care to receive this
this is a process by which you cultivate sources
to get information that is the
presses
which is fine and i thought that that's even being brought to the discussion is
really almost analogous
the somebody in conversation basically saying that well some people have said
that
frankly
you deserve it for being sexually assaulted because you were wearing a
skimpy dress
it's a disgusting a moral ridiculous an insane point
and has no role in his russian
of sexual soldiers this as the world's best on
you could start discharges
wet weather what do you want to debate about that you can start getting into
do you do something beyond just perceive it every single investigate journals
doesn't just received things
that's insane
an answer
the top of that what we discussed before earlier in the show
how many other leaks it happened
whether it was a source that mornings mission organization i mean no at a
problem in new york times basically unveiled the kill list and all of the
other uh...
the information showing us some arrayed all those other
thing today uh... they leaked that would be to them by their source of income of
that just just yesterday
had we find out about it was so his passport
holy got information
i was a little questioning whether that was fun or not
it's just
ages unbelievable
someone corporations up around as a journalist i give a gregory does
would ask another journalist
why shouldn't he be charged the crown
that's a pretty stunning question
yeah marine i mean it's clear that
david gregory's
just manager not at this point
i mean if anyways just espousing their very clear and what did he say again
about our greenwald
you're a very
if they reach something that is funny look at this week he said he has a
freezer debate now anderson cooper but before you betting run try to get this
he set out
tango it very clear
opinion about this
and i mean pathetically did a great is very clear opinion on this
i have to say get a gregory a few days earlier
on jay leno on it tonight show talking about this
and him in j musing about everest's no radar d is a traitor and should be sent
to right away
we understand why it weasel don't get together and bring them over here and
project
that sounds like you have a very clear-cut opinion on this david gregory
wondering these things anymore
i think you know what you're saying and i think you have a very clear-cut
opinion on this
are you a journalist integrity
out