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>>> HAS
>>> HAS A
>>> HAS A HEADLINE TODAY THAT YOU JUST CAN'T MISS.
HOLLYWOOD ACTRESSES ARE AMONG
50 PEOPLE CHARGED IN A $25
MILLION COLLEGE ENTRANCE EXAM
CHEATING SCHEME, INCLUDING LORI
LOUGHLIN AND FELICITY HUFFMAN.
THEY UNCOVERED A NETWORK OF
WEALTHY PARENTS WHO PAID
THOUSANDS SOMETIMES MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS TO A CALIFORNIA MAN WHO
BOOSTED THEIR CHILDREN'S
CHANCES OF GAINING ENTRANCE
INTO ELITE COLLEGES.
OFFICIAL ACCUSED THOSE INVOLVED
OF PAYING PEOPLE TO TAKE TESTS
FOR THEIR CHILDREN, BRIBING
TEST ADMINISTRATORS TO ALLOW
THAT TO HAPPEN AND BRIBING
COLLEGE COACHES AND
ADMINISTRATORS WHO IDENTIFY THE
APPLICANTS AS ATHLETES WHEN IN
FACT THEY WERE NOT.
SO OF COURSE WE RALLIED THE
TROOPS AND DECIDED WE NEED TO
DIVE INTO THIS TODAY IN "REAL
TALK."
TALK."
TALK." WE
TALK." WE HAVE CARA KNEER STICKING
AROUND, FOUNDER OF THE LIVE
YOUR LEGACY SUMMIT, THE FOUNDER
OF ACCESS TO ADMISSIONS COLLEGE
ADVISER ELISA BUCKNER AND POPE
HIGH SCHOOL COUNSELOR PATTY
DESILVA.
DESILVA.
DESILVA. THANK YOU, LADIES, FOR JOINING
US.
US.
US. WE
US. WE GOT ON THE HORN YESTERDAY
WHEN THIS WAS ALL GOING DOWN
AND SAID WE HAVE TO DISCUSS
THIS TODAY.
THIS TODAY. MOST PEOPLE ARE.
WOULD YOU GUYS -- WAS ANYBODY
REALLY SURPRISED?
REALLY SURPRISED? CARA?
CARA?
CARA? >>
CARA? >> I WAS SURPRISED.
IT'S A SIGN OF THE TIMES BUT I
WAS SURPRISED AND I THOUGHT HOW
SAD IT IS FOR KIDS WHO DO ALL
THE RIGHT THINGS, WORK REALLY
HARD, AND THEN THEIR SPOT COULD
BE GIVEN TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
>> I WAS REALLY SURPRISED.
I THINK I'M THE MOM IN THE
GROUP BECAUSE I'M NOT ON A
COLLEGE ADMISSIONS BOARD JUST A
MOM WITH A YOUNGER AND OLDER
DAUGHTER.
DAUGHTER.
DAUGHTER. I HAD NO IDEA THIS TYPE OF
SCOPE WAS GOING ON.
MY CONCERN IS WHAT ARE YOU
TEACHING YOUR CHILDREN THAT
YOU'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH, I HAD
TO PUT YOUR FAITH ON AN
ATHLETE'S PICTURE SAYING HERE
TAKE MY KID TO COLLEGE BECAUSE
JUST BECAUSE YOU MIGHT BE A
SINGER OR AN ARTIST OR
SOMETHING ELSE WONDERFUL.
SO I HATE WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO
MAKE THEIR KIDS SOMETHING
THEY'RE NOT BECAUSE WE'RE ALL
WONDERFUL JUST THE WAY WE ARE.
YOU HAVE TO FAKE IT.
>> I AGREE.
LET'S FACE IT.
I KNOW THESE LADIES CAN WEIGH
IN.
IN.
IN. WE
IN. WE ARE IN -- I THOUGHT IT WAS
COMPETITIVE BACK IN MY DAY.
I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THAT
COMPETITIVE.
COMPETITIVE. >> IT IS CUTTHROAT!
IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.
I WILL SAY IT ALL SCHOOLS.
BUT I FEEL LIKE EVEN IN SOME OF
THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS WITH THE
ESSAYS AND THE GIVING THAT
THESE PARENTS DO, THE DONATING,
WHAT ARE YOU -- FIRST OF ALL,
EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO AND
HOW YOU HELP THESE STUDENTS.
>> SO I AM AN INDEPENDENT
COLLEGE COACH AND I MUST SAY
THAT IN ACCESS TO ADMISSION
MYSELF AND MY COACHES WE DO
THINGS WITH INTEGRITY AND
THAT'S IMPORTANT.
THAT'S IMPORTANT. OF COURSE, AT TIMES, YOU HAVE
FAMILIES OR PARENTS THAT WANT
YOU TO WRITE ESSAYS FOR THEM
AND YOU PLAINLY HAVE TO SAY NO.
>> YOU HAVE GOTTEN THOSE
REQUESTS?
REQUESTS?
REQUESTS? >> SUBTLY, BUT YEAH.
YOU REALLY NEED TO BE VERY
CAREFUL WITH THAT AS AN
INDEPENDENT COLLEGE COUNSELOR
AND THERE'S SO MANY OF US THAT
ABIDE BY THE ETHICS.
WE DO PRO BONO WORK OFTEN TIMES
BUT MOST OF THE TIME WE ARE
JUST DOING THAT COACHING JUST
AS A SCHOOL COUNSELOR DOES IN A
SCHOOL.
SCHOOL.
SCHOOL. AND OUR GOAL IS TO GUIDE
STUDENTS THROUGH THE PROCESS
PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT DON'T
HAVE THE MEANS OF PAYING FOR A
SERVICE LIKE MYSELF.
SO I'M ABLE TO DO BOTH, WORK IN
SCHOOLS, WHERE STUDENTS ARE LOW
INCOME AND ALSO WORK WITH
INDEPENDENT FAMILIES THAT ARE
ABLE TO PAY.
>> A FAMILY THAT'S ABLE TO PAY
TO SAY, HEY, MAYBE MY CHILD HAS
HAD THIS OR THIS ISSUE.
HELP US FIND THE RIGHT FIT.
BECAUSE I'M SURE IT CAN BE
OVERWHELMING, RIGHT?
OVERWHELMING, RIGHT? >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> YOU STEP IN AS WELL AS A
HIGH SCHOOL COUNSELOR.
DOES IT SURPRISE OR SHOCK YOU?
THE LEVEL IT REACHED?
>> THE LEVEL IT REACHED WAS
CERTAINLY SHOCKING BUT THE
GENERAL IDEA BEHIND IT WAS
SADLY NOT.
SADLY NOT. NOT ALL THAT SURPRISING
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR
ABOUT PARENTS THAT ARE WANTING
TO DO ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING THEY
CAN TO GUARANTEE SUCCESS FOR
THEIR CHILDREN.
THEIR CHILDREN. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> AND THIS IS WHAT THESE
PARENTS WERE DOING.
BUT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT,
YOU KNOW, THE ROADBLOCKS AND
SHOWING RESILIENCE AND
PERSEVERANCE AND CHALLENGING
AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE
WHAT BUILD CHARACTER AND WHAT
SHOULD GO INTO COLLEGE AND NOT
JUST, LIKE, I'M GOING TO PUT
YOU HERE BECAUSE I KNOW THE
NAME OF THIS SCHOOL AND THIS
SCHOOL HAS A GREAT REPUTATION
SO YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY GOING
TO COME OUT BEING A SUCCESS.
>> IT FEELS LIKE YOUR JOB AS A
PARENT, TOO, AT LEAST THIS IS
ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK ABOUT
ALL THE TIME IS MY JOB IS TO
EMPOWER MY KIDS TO MAKE THEM
FEEL LIKE THEY CAN DO THINGS ON
THEIR OWN.
THEIR OWN. AND I KNOW A LOT OF THEM SAID
THAT THEY WEREN'T AWARE OF WHAT
WAS GOING ON.
>> THAT WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF
MY QUESTIONS TO YOU.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT?
>> HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THIS
WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT A
FAMILY WOULD GO THROUGH THE
TIME IT TOOK TO PLAN THIS, SO
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME OUT OF
THE GATE THAT THEY HAVE DONE
SOMETHING MAYBE THAT WAS A
LITTLE BIT DISHONEST.
>> I'M WONDERING HOW COME IT'S
THE WOMEN AND NOT THE HUSBANDS?
IS THIS A DECISION YOU DO ON
YOUR OWN AND NOT ASK THE
HUSBAND?
HUSBAND?
HUSBAND? I KNOW ALL THE HOLLYWOOD PEOPLE
PROBABLY HAVE THEIR OWN BANK
ACCOUNTS BUT DON'T JUST THROW
THE MOM IN JAIL.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> I'M SORRY.
>> IT IS INTERESTING.
TO GET BACK TO ACTUAL NUMBERS,
SO PARENTS PAID $15,000
FELICITY HUFFMAN, ALLEGEDLY,
ALL THE WAY UP TO $75,000 PER
TEST FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO TAKE
THE S.A.T.
THE S.A.T. OR THE A.C.T.
IN PLACE OF THEIR COLLEGE AGED
CHILDREN.
CHILDREN.
CHILDREN. HOW EASY IS THAT TO -- I MEAN,
MY GOD, THAT -- THAT SEEMS
IMPOSSIBLE.
IMPOSSIBLE. WELL, VIRTUALLY -- WOULD YOU
HAVE TO HAVE IDENTIFICATION
WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE TO HAVE
FAKE IDENTIFICATION?
FAKE IDENTIFICATION? THIS WAS A WELL THOUGHT OUT
PLAN.
PLAN.
PLAN. >>
PLAN. >> THEY GOT THOSE PROCTORS IN
THERE.
THERE.
THERE. >>
THERE. >> I COORDINATE THE A.C.T.
AT MY SCHOOL.
I'M THE PERSON IN CHARGE OF THE
WHOLE UMBRELLA AND I CHOOSE THE
PROCTOR AND CHOOSE THE TEST
ADMINISTRATORS.
ADMINISTRATORS. AND THEN WE HAVE A MEETING
BEFORE EVERY TEST.
SO WHAT THEY A.C.T.
DOES IS THEY HAMMER HOME IS
MAKE SURE YOU'RE CHECKING THIS
AND THAT.
AND THAT.
AND THAT. SO IN ORDER FOR THEM TO HAVE
CHEATED, SHORT OF THE ONE-ON-
ONE TESTING WHICH WAS A WHOLE
'NOTHER SUBJECT, IF IT'S JUST A
STUDENT WALKING INTO A TEST, TO
GO AND TAKE IT FOR SOMEONE
ELSE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A
FAKE ID AND THEY WOULD ALSO
HAVE TO HAVE REGISTERED FOR
THAT STUDENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE
TO SEND A PICTURE IN TO A.C.T.
THAT'S ON THEIR ADMISSIONS
TICKET.
TICKET.
TICKET. SO THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT THE
ID, TICKET AND PERSON AND WE
MAKE SURE THEY ALL --
>> WEREN'T THEY SAYING SOME OF
THE PROCTORS WERE DOING THE BAD
DEEDS, TOO?
DEEDS, TOO? >> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES. >> SO YOU HAD THE RIGHT KID BUT
THE PROCTOR -- I DON'T KNOW HOW
THAT WORKS.
THAT WORKS. >> FROM WHAT I HEARD, THE
GENTLEMAN WHO COORDINATED THIS
ENTIRE THING WAS PAYING THE
PEOPLE WITH A ONE-ON-ONE
TESTING SITUATION, A WHOLE
'NOTHER LAYER.
'NOTHER LAYER. AND EXPERTS LAST NIGHT THAT
WERE WEIGHING IN, YOU KNOW, AND
MY DAUGHTER I JUST PAID
PRIVATELY FOR THE PSYCHOLOGICAL
EVALUATION, SHE IS NOW
DIAGNOSED WITH SOME LEARNING
DISABILITIES.
DISABILITIES. NOW WE ALL OWN IT.
SO THESE KIDS WERE ABLE TO GET
THE EXTRA TIME, THE SPECIAL
ACCOMMODATIONS.
ACCOMMODATIONS. NOW WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL OF US?
ARE THERE GOING TO BE -- WE
DON'T BELIEVE IT -- THAT SHE
REALLY DOES HAVE A LEARNING --
WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE IN
THIS MESS?
THIS MESS? IT'S REALLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE
WHAT UNTRAVELS UNRAVELS AS THE
THING GOES ON.
>> THEY HAD TO HAVE KNOWN THAT
SOMEBODY WAS TAKING THE TEST IN
THEIR PLACE.
THEIR PLACE. RIGHT?
RIGHT?
RIGHT? >>
RIGHT? >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> WHATEVER HAPPENED TO PARENTS
TEACHING DON'T CHEAT ON A TEST.
NOW IT'S DO WHAT I SAY NOT WHAT
I DO?
I DO?
I DO? >>
I DO? >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> WHAT AN EXAMPLE.
>> I DIDN'T WANT TO BELIEVE IT.
ERICA SAID, THIS HURTS MY HEAD.
THAT'S AUNT BECKY TO ME.
TAMMIE SAID, THE WORSE PART IS
THEY TOOK SPOTS SCHOLARSHIPS
FROM SOME LESS FORTUNATE KIDS
WHO REALLY DID QUALIFY FOR
THESE SCHOOLS.
THESE SCHOOLS. MAGGIE SAYS, WHAT ARE THESE
KIDS LEARNING?
KIDS LEARNING? I WOULD BE SO EMBARRASSED IF I
WERE THAT MOM.
NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT HAS COME TO LIGHT
IS ONE OF THE DAUGHTERS OF LORI
LOUGHLIN BACK IN THE DAY WE
WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT THIS CHILD
WAS THINKING NOW ALL OF HER
VIDEO BLOGS ARE ALL OVER WHERE
IT JUST SHOWS THAT SHE JUST
DOESN'T EVEN SEEM TO CARE OR
APPRECIATE THAT SHE IS IN THE
UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA AND SO THAT MAKES IT
MORE CRINGE-WORTHY!
MORE CRINGE-WORTHY! >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> BUT DO YOU THINK IT REALLY
IS POSSIBLE AND YOU BROUGHT
THAT UP THAT THERE IS A CHILD
THAT REALLY DIDN'T KNOW IN THIS
WHOLE MESS OF POTENTIALLY OVER
700 STUDENTS REALLY DIDN'T
KNOW?
KNOW?
KNOW? >>
KNOW? >> I THINK I IT'S POSSIBLE.
BUT BECAUSE I GET MANY
COMMUNICATION FROM PARENTS THAT
ARE SAYING, I WANT TO TALK TO
YOU AND I WANT TO DISCUSS THIS
ABOUT MY CHILD, BUT DON'T TELL
THEM.
THEM.
THEM. AND
THEM. AND I USUALLY TRY TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION WITH THEM, THAT'S
NOT A GREAT IDEA, LET ME SHARE
WHY AND TRY TO BRING IN THE
CHILD BUT I HAVE MANY
CONVERSATIONS WHERE PARENTS ARE
TRYING TO MAKE DECISION AND
TRYING TO DECIDE ON THINGS FOR
THEIR CHILD BECAUSE THEY WANT
WHAT THEY THINK IS IN THEIR
BEST INTERESTS.
BEST INTERESTS. BUT I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW
YOU CAN DO THAT WITHOUT THE
PERSON WHO IS A PART OF IT
BEING AFFECTED.
BEING AFFECTED. SO I DO BELIEVE IT'S POSSIBLE,
UNLIKELY BUT I BELIEVE IT'S
POSSIBLE.
POSSIBLE.
POSSIBLE. >> DON'T NOW, LIKE I WOULD HAVE
KNOWN THAT I COULD NOT GET INTO
COLLEGE -- I KNOW MY OWN SKILLS
AND THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN MY
STRENGTH.
STRENGTH.
STRENGTH. I COULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN INTO
HARVARD.
HARVARD.
HARVARD. I TURNED OUT JUST FINE.
RIGHT?
RIGHT?
RIGHT? >>
RIGHT? >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> THE PSATs WERE 400 AND ALL
OF A SUDDEN THEY SHOT UP.
IF THAT WAS ME AND I SAW THAT
LET'S SAY THE PROCTOR DID IT OR
SOMEBODY ELSE DID IT, I WOULD
BE LIKE I DID THAT GOOD ON THE
TEST?!
TEST?!
TEST?! SOMEWHERE YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S
NOT YOUR STRENGTH.
YOU HAVE WONDERFUL STRENGTH.
LET'S FOCUS ON THEIR STRENGTH
AND INSTEAD OF MAKING THEM WHAT
THEY'RE NOT.
THEY'RE NOT. >> WHAT THEY'RE NOT.
>> IT'S CRAZY.
>> FALSE SELF-ESTEEM.
>> 100%.
>> 100%.
>> 100%. >> IT REALLY IS THIS
COMPETITIVE.
COMPETITIVE. THIS IS WHERE IT'S COME TO.
IS THAT WHAT -- OBVIOUSLY,
BECAUSE THERE'S A POSITION
THAT'S BEEN CREATED NOW, WHAT
YOU'RE DOING.
YOU'RE DOING. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. MY BACKGROUND IS SCHOOL
COUNSELING.
COUNSELING. AND I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO
HAVE A CASE LOAD OF 250, 300,
400 STUDENTS AND THAT'S JUST
IMPOSSIBLE TO GIVE STUDENTS AN
INDIVIDUALIZED ATTENTION THAT
THEY NEED.
THEY NEED. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, SCHOOLS HAVE
NOT GROWN BUT THE NUMBER OF
STUDENTS THAT ARE APPLYING HAS.
BUT THE NUMBER OF DORMS ARE
ABOUT THE SAME IN THE LAST 100
OF YEARS THAT WE HAVE BEEN
AROUND WITH COLLEGE.
SO IT IS VERY COMPETITIVE AND
IT'S OKAY TO HAVE COMPETITION.
BUT I DO THINK THAT THIS BRINGS
LIGHT TO SOME UNEQUAL ADMISSION
TO SCHOOLS.
TO SCHOOLS. MY HOPE AND PRAYER IS THAT
WE'LL REALLY USE THIS HORRIFIC
STORY THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE TO
REALLY DO SOME DEEP DIGGING AND
REALLY THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN
BETTER SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS.
IT WAS JUST LAST YEAR THAT THE
COLLEGE BOARD AND A.C.T.
ALLOWED STUDENTS THAT WERE LOW
INCOME TO APPLY TO SCHOOLS FOR
MORE THAN FOUR SCHOOLS WITH
THEIR FEE WAIVER.
HOW UNFAIR IS THAT?
WHEN EVERYONE ELSE IS ABLE TO
APPLY TO SEVERAL SCHOOLS AT
ONCE?
ONCE?
ONCE? SO
ONCE? SO THIS ISN'T AN UNCOMMON ISSUE
OR SOMETHING RECENT BUT JUST
THE MAGNITUDE IS HORRIFIC.
>> CAN'T PLAY IF YOU CAN'T GET
IN THE GAME AND SOME PEOPLE GET
TO START OUT ON THIRD BASE.
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES. >> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY. >> AND PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT
JUST STARTING FROM ELEMENTARY
SCHOOL.
SCHOOL.
SCHOOL. THERE ARE PARENTS WHO GET IN
TROUBLE BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY
ARE WANTING WHAT'S BEST AND
THEY PUT AN ADDRESS OF AN AUNT
OR UNCLE SO THEY CAN GO TO A
PARTICULAR HIGH SCHOOL AND JUST
SO THEY CAN HAVE WHAT THEY
WOULD VIEW AS A BETTER
OPPORTUNITY.
OPPORTUNITY. AND SO HERE WE ARE WITH WHAT
WE'RE FACING TODAY.
WOULD YOU CONSIDER -- I MEAN,
HOW TEMPTED WERE YOU AS A MOM
TO JUST DO ANYTHING --
>> NOT AT ALL.
THAT'S MY WEAKNESS BECAUSE MY
DAUGHTERS ARE SO TALENTED AND
IN OTHER WAYS -- MY DAUGHTERS
ARE SINGERS, EQUESTRIANS.
I'M TAKING THEM TO AMERICAN
IDOL!
IDOL!
IDOL! THEY HAVE THEIR STRENGTHS.
THAT'S A PROBLEM ESPECIALLY
WITH WOMEN.
WITH WOMEN. WE ALWAYS THINK EVERYBODY ELSE
IS BETTER THAN US.
WE NEED TO SAY THIS IS YOUR
GIFT AND TALENT.
WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO?
MIGHT NOT BE COLLEGE.
IF IT IS, LET THOSE WHO ARE NOT
GETTING ON THIS LIST, THOSE
OTHER PEOPLE CHEATING, THEY
NEED TO BE ON IT NO MATTER HOW
MUCH THEY MAKE WHAT THEY DO OR
DON'T HAVE BECAUSE THEY ARE THE
POOREST ONES OUT THERE MIGHT BE
THE NEXT PERSON THAT CURES
CANCER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES. >> AND ALONG THOSE SAME LINES,
YOU MENTIONED THE WORD EARLIER,
THE WORD THAT WE HARP ON ALL
THE TIME.
THE TIME.
THE TIME. FIT.
FIT.
FIT. COLLEGE FIT.
COLLEGE FIT. NOT EVERY KID SHOULD GO TO USC
OR HARVARD OR STANFORD.
YOU KNOW?
YOU KNOW?
YOU KNOW? POPE I FIND TO BE A VERY UNIQUE
SCHOOL BECAUSE WE HAVE STUDENTS
RAKING FROM HARVARD TO
TECHNICAL COLLEGE FOR TRADES.
WE PREACH THAT WITH THE
PARENTS.
PARENTS.
PARENTS. YOU KNOW, LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR
CHILD'S FIT.
CHILD'S FIT. BY FIT, WE MEAN, ACADEMICALLY,
SOCIALLY AND FINANCIALLY.
SO WHAT IS THE BEST FIT FOR
YOUR CHILD?
YOUR CHILD? WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO BE
HAPPY?
HAPPY?
HAPPY? WHERE CAN THEY BE A TEENAGER OR
A YOUNG ADULT IN ACADEMICS.
>> I'M SCARED FOR MYSELF AND MY
KIDS ARE OLDER THAN CARA'S
BECAUSE I SEE IT STARTING RIGHT
NOW.
NOW.
NOW. YOU
NOW. YOU KNOW?
YOU KNOW?
YOU KNOW? IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
>> DON'T GIVE IN TO THE
COMPETITION AND ALL THAT.
THINK OF IT LIKE MIDDLE SCHOOL
OR HIGH SCHOOL WE ARE A WORRIED
ABOUT WHERE IS MY KID GOING?
JUST FOCUS ON MAKING THEM THE
BEST THEY CAN BE AND LOVE THEM
FOR WHAT THEY DO WELL AND FOCUS
ON THAT INSTEAD OF WHERE THEY
ARE GOING TO SCHOOL.
DO THE BEST YOU CAN DO.
Y'ALL CAN DO GREAT THINGS
WHEREVER YOU ARE.
BILL GATES DROPPED OUT OF
HARVARD AND DID QUITE WELL.
>> WE NEED TO MOVE AWAY FROM
THE COLLEGE BEING PART OF THE
PARENTS' SELF-WORTH.
PARENTS' SELF-WORTH. >> YES!
>> YES!
>> YES! >> I HATE THAT WE HAVE TO
WRAP, BUT, OF COURSE, WE WANT
TO YOU WEIGH IN.
LADIES, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AGAIN, FOR