WARNING RUSSIA WAR ON
UKRAINE COULD LAST YEARS
RESILIENT THE ALLIANCE SUPPORT
OF UKRAINE IS STILL IN PLACE,
THE INVESTIGATION ENTERING
117TH DAY JOINING ME FORMER
STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESPERSON
MORGAN ORTAGUS WONDERFUL TO
SEE YOU.
>> HI, JACKE THANKS FOR HAVING
ME.
>> SO LET’S START WITH THIS, I
MEAN YOU ENTER A CONFLICT LIKE
THIS ALLOW RUSSIA TO INVADE
UKRAINE NOT SURPRISED THIS IS
ONGOING CONFLICT THE
UKRAINIANS PUT ON STRONG
DURING THE WAR PEOPLE WORRY AS
TIME GOES ON THEY WILL
CONTINUE TO WEAK NAILT SAYS
WE’RE THERE FOR YOU UNITED
STATES SAYS WE’RE THERE FOR
YOU HAVING SAID THAT LONGER
THIS GOES HARDER, ET CETERA,
GETS FOR THE UKRAINIANS.
>> YOU FRAMED IT PERFECTLY
JACKIE THE SITUATION WE ARE IN
WHY, IN TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
MY BOSS MIKE POMPEO, PRESIDENT
TRUMP, FOCUSED SO MUCH ON
PREVENTING, THE INVASION FROM
HAPPENING SUCCESSFUL MAKING
SURE THAT PUTIN DID NOT INVADE
UKRAINE ON OUR WATCH,
UNFORTUNATELY, THE DETERRENCE
STRATEGY BIDEN BLINKEN THEIR
TEAM PUT IN PLACE FAILED THAT
IS WHY YOU WE WHERE WE ARE
TODAY MANY OF US MYSELF
INCLUDED HAVE BEEN WARNING
THIS WOULD BE A PROLONGED
STRATEGY THERE WOULD IN THE BE
NOT BE A QUICK UKRAINIAN WIN
WE KNOW FROM HISTORY HOW PUTT
OPERATES WHAT HE DID TIE
CHECHNYA CAME IN POWER, WHAT
HE DID IN SYRIA BEEN INVOLVED
IN SYRIA MOHAMED A DECADE
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS DEAD
THERE ENABLED -- WORST -- TEAM
IN SYRIA IN YOU AFGHANISTAN
VERY LONG, SO THE RUSSIANS
UNDERSTAND HOW TO WAIT THE
WEST OUT I THINK PUTIN RIGHT
NOW IS SORT OF CALLING THE
WEST’S BLUFF AS WE SPEAK
BECAUSE #UKRAINE, FLAGS EARLY
ON PUTIN SEES THROUGH THAT
WHEN HE INVADEED DURING SECOND
TERM OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
INVADED CRIMEA REMAINED THERE
SINCE, WITH TROOPS NEVER,
LEFT.
SO THE THINGS HE IS GOING --
TO THINK GOING TO ABOUT-FACE
LEAVE UKRAINE BECAUSE HE HAD
SOME MILITARY DEFEATS
EMBARRASSMENTS I THINK WRONG
ASSESSMENT, ERGO WHERE DO WE
GO WE NEED A STRATEGY FROM
ABOUT ADMINISTRATION PUTIN,
RUSSIA, NO, HE KNOW WHAT HE IS
CABLE OF A LONG TERM FIGHT
WITH NATO SECRETARY GENERAL
SAID WAS ACCURATE WE ALL KNOW
THIS THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS
THE BIDEN STRATEGY.
JACKIE: WHAT IS THE BIDEN
STRATEGY I AM NOT SURE ANYBODY
KNOWS PER SE, MARIA SPOKE WITH
YOUR FORMER CLEGG FORMER
SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO
ABOUT AMERICA’S NEXT HE
POTENTIAL FOREIGN POLICY
CRISIS I.E., ON A GLOBAL STAGE
THAT HAD HAVE A CONVERSATION
ON "SUNDAY MORNING FUTURES"
YESTERDAY.
>> YOU SEE PROTESTERS BUCKLE
UP IN IRAN RIGHT NOW, IS THE
AREA BECOMING MORE FRAGILE
DOES THIS BECOME THE NEXT
CRISIS FOR THE UNITED STATES?
ISN’T IT TRUE THEY COULD BLOCK
THE STRAITS OF HORMUZ PREVENT
OIL CARGOES PERHAPS MAKE OIL
SITUATION EVEN WORSE?
.
>> MARIA NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT,
TENUOUS SITUATION THAT RISK IS
VERY, VERY REAL I WATCHED OF
FOUR YEARS DEEPLY INVOLVED MAY
BE SURE THAT DAY IN EVERY CAME
IRANIANS THREATENING AMERICANS
WE TOOK OUT THE LEADER OF THE
FORCE TO MAKE SURE NEVER
THREATENED ANOTHER AMERICAN.
JACKIE: WE SEE HOW
ADMINISTRATION DEALT WITH
PUTIN NOT PARTICULARLY
IMPRESSED BY IT MORGAN
ANTIREGIME PROTESTS SURGING IN
IRAN DUE TO PRICE HIKES
DETAILED BUILDING COLLAPSE
YOUR THOUGHTS WHAT IS
HAPPENING ON THE GROUND THERE
I THINK THIS ADMINISTRATION
THIS PRESIDENT HAS SENT A
MESSAGE OUT, ON TO GLOBAL
STAGE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS
A WEAK REGIME.
>> SO WHATEVER THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION CAKE IN
SIGNALED THEY WANTED TO DO
OPPOSITE WHAT HAVE WE DID IN
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, WAS
MAXIMUM ECONOMIC PRESSURE
CAMPAIGN AGAINST IRAN, MIKE
POMPEO TALKED ABOUT WE TOOK
OUT THE WORLD’S LEADING
TERRORIST FROM THE WORLD
LARGEST STATE-SPONSORED
TERRORISM REPUBLIC OF IRAN
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION THOUGHT
WOULD COME IN HAVE A QUICK
NEGOTIATIONS, AND GET UNITED
STATES AND IRBANG INTO JCPOA
HASN’T HAPPENED IRANIANS HAVE
NO INTEREST GETTING BACK IN WE
HAVE ALLOWED, IRANIAN OIL TO
WE HAVE ALLOWED COUNTRIES
CHICK CHINA IGNORE SANCTIONS
BY OIL WHY GO FOR A DETAIL
WHEN THEY ARE GETTING WHAT
THEY WANT CAN TERRORIZE THE
JEEJ IN THE PROCESS.
JACKIE: GREAT POINT WITH
RESPECT TO THE OIL DUMPING ON
BLACK MARKET WHILE I HAVE YOU
WANT TO TALK CHINA FOR A
MOMENT AS WELL LAUNCHING THIRD
HE AIRCRAFT CARRIER FRIDAY
CLAIMING LARGEST MOST WIDENED
AGGRESSION TO DATE YOU THINK
CARRIERS SYMBOLIC TO CHINA
RAPID BACKED UP UP I THINK
BUILDUP RUSSIA TROOPS ON
UKRAINE BORDER THIS
ADMINISTRATION WATCHED IT
DIDN’T SAY VLADIMIR PUTIN
SERIOUSLY WHEN HE DID IT
WONDER IF THEIR TAKING CHINA
SERIOUSLY AS THEY BUILD UP
DEFENSES AS WELL.
>> BIDEN ADMINISTRATION KEEPS
TALKING ABOUT HOW CHINA IS
OUR COMPETITOR, BUT LISTEN, IN
MANY CASES AROUND THE WORLD,
IN MANY INDUSTRIES WE HAVE
ALREADY LOST TT GAME WITH
CHINA, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU ARE
TALKING ABOUT THE NAVY CHINESE
NAVY OVER TOOK OUR NAVY
SEVERAL YEARS AGO IN TERMS OF
NUMBER SHIPS HAVE AIRCRAFT
CARRIER BUILT BY STEALING A
LOT OF SUBSUME PROPERTY
SECRETS, BUT THEY STILL BUILT
IT, IT IS THERE, EVERYBODY IN
AMERICA SHOULD KNOW THAT
BIDEN’S RHETORIC DOES NOT
MATCH REALITY NOT MATCH
DEFENSE BUDGET DOESN’T COVER
THE COST OF INFLATION ISN’T
SERIOUS ABOUT BEATING CHINA.
>> I THINK A GREAT POINT I
KNOW LANG WANTS TO JUMP IN.
>> MORGAN MY CONCERN ABOUT
CHINA AIRCRAFT CARRY NOW ABLE
TO MAKE ENTIRELY AT HOME, IS
NOT JUST A MESSAGE THAT IT
SENDS TO THE UNITED STATES IT,
IT WE BECOME MORE DEPENDENT ON
FOREIGN POURS FOR ENERGY, THE
MESSAGE THAT IT SENDS TO
RUSSIA, MOST OF CHINA’S
WEAPONS IMPORTS COME FROM
RUSSIA HOW DOES THIS CHANGE
THE DYNAMIC BETWEEN THOSE TWO
GLOBAL POWERS.
>> IN ANY CASE FANTASTIC
QUESTION I WISH PRODUCERS
WOULD GIVE US AN HOUR TO TALK
ABOUT IT I THINK THE
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN XI
JINPING AND PUTIN HAS BEEN A
PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP THAT WE
HAVE SEEN DEVELOP OVER A
DECADE, PEOPLE WERE SKEPTICAL
TWO POWERS WOULD COME TOGETHER
OBVIOUSLY, ANTAGONISTIC
HISTORY AS MANY TIMES, TWO
SEEM COMMITTED UNDERSTANDING
WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
STAND UP TO WEST TOGETHER, MY
QUESTION IS IS THE WEST GOING
TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY STAND
UP, TO CHINA?
WHEN EVER THE TIME COMES WHEN
WE LOOK AT UKRAINE AS THE
EXAMPLE WE STILL SEE RUBLE
BETTER THAN ITZ HAS BEEN THEY
ARE DEPENDENT ON RUSSIA ENERGY
IF CHINA LOOKING AT THIS I
THINK THINKING UNITED STATES A
LOT OF HASHTAGS BIG TALK BUILT
DON’T NECESSARILY DELIVERY.
JACKIE: GREAT POINT WE HAVE