Hello. You have a package? Excellent. No, no sorry I'm not in. You'll have to leave
it next door. The name?
Secret service.
Season two of Homeland is out on DVD soon, so the producers have sent me to learn how
to become a spy for the day. All those dreams of James Bond coming true at last. We're going
to be chasing someone through the streets of London and then in the afternoon, a bit
of a surprise. I actually know what the surprise is, and it's horrible.
I'm going to jam this pen so far into your f***ing eyeball, you'll f***ing squeal you
piece of sh*t.
But first, to chasing someone through London.
All we know is that, she's known as Ms. L. She's counter surveillance aware. She'll do
drills to know that she's being followed, so she's aware. She'll be aware, so you need
to be careful when you're following her.
Also, she sometimes wears glasses. On a normal job, you'd never walk around with your radio.
Just crossing the road. So we're outside H&M on Oxford Street. Suspects just got inside.
We're after this lady.
So we've been following our suspect for about an hour and a half now. She's just jumped into Waterstones.
We followed her on the tube. I think she might have spotted me once or twice. I did accidentally
overtake her once, but fingers crossed. I mean, she's not run away yet.
So we've now been following her for about three hours. We're told she's come to meet
a guy. That looks like him right there outside the Odeon Cinema. I don't know who he is,
but we've been asked to get some pictures of him.
Don't move. Don't move.
Get them up against the wall. Fingertips. Get your legs back. Back! In the back. Spread
them apart. Silence.
If you move, it will only get worse. Get your legs wider. Get em wider. Your head up straight.
You f***ing laughing? I'll f***ing kick your ass. I f***ing mean that.
You think this is f***ing funny?
I didn't ask you... Did I?
No.
Don't you f***ing shake your head at me, boy.
You shake your f***ing head one more time. I will f***ing jam this pen into your ear.
I didn't f***ing tell you to speak. You f***ing speak when I tell you to f***ing speak.
Sign it. You f***ing piece of sh*t. Get on the floor. Do it now.
Dave Thomas. Dave Thomas. So Dave, talk me through some of the horrible things that you
were doing to me earlier that I'm going to overlay to make you look like a truly evil
person.
Well certainly yeah. Probably one of the worst things we did was obviously the stress position.
It's designed to make you feel very uncomfortable in a very short period of time and the whole
idea there being is that your body aches, your fingers ache. Your arms ache. Everything
aches, and it's a very, very uncomfortable experience for you. And the idea being then,
every now and then, we take you out of that experience of being uncomfortable, sit you
in a chair, talk to you. If you don't tell us what we need to know, we put you back into
that uncomfortable experience again.
So what happened today, is that going on in the world?
Absolutely. If you think of all the conflicts that happen around the world today, many many
times when obviously insurgents and people are captured, they're going to be using those
types of techniques, and obviously an awful lot worse than that.
If, for whatever reason, I found myself in one of these situations one day, uh kind of
blindfolded and being kept in a dark room, what's the best thing that I could possibly
do in that situation?
Well obviously, try and escape as early as possible. The longer in captivity, the harder
quite often it's going to be to escape from that sort of thing. Try and keep a solid,
good psychology in those times, as well as trying to keep your body physically fit as
much as you possibly can in those positions as well. So although, you might be suffering,
try and make out you're really, really suffering so you can keep a little bit of strength so
if that opportunity to escape does arise, you take the opportunity and you won't literally
be absolutely, physically exhausted to then get away.