speaking of tory maths um over the weekend the dozen or so however many there are now tory
leadership hopefuls made so many promises of tax cuts that it amounted to 200 billion pounds now
either they keep spending what they're spending now which means that that would put us 200 billion
pounds in the hole or they cut public services to pay for it but 200 billion of public services
done they're thinking about now ben kirsten was going to be making that point in his speech today
he's setting labour up as this the party of fiscal responsibility isn't he from what he's
saying there he's talking about everything that he's going to promise is going to be
absolutely costed out and budgeting you know where the cash is coming from
yeah this i got to say there's 200 billion that labour's calculated there's a little bit of
trickery going around there finally never yeah what they've done is taken the various
tax and spending or lower tax lower tax rates announced by the various leadership candidates and
instead of taking the highest they've added them all together yeah so that's a bit dare i say we
have all of them as prime minister yeah yeah then it would come to a 200 billion or just overall
so um the biggest i think the ifs institute fiscal studies those number crunches i think
we found yesterday was 49.9 billion um but if you had and labour has got fourth for doing this sort
of thing when uh when they were in government uh adding things together and including it as one big
you know spending if it's 10 billion next year and then 15 billion or that's 25 billion was
not because it's 15 billion whatever um yeah so the tax revolution that he is talking about uh
honestly in about 40 minutes i think actually in newcastle this morning um one of the eye-catching
policies is going to be to remove the charitable status of private schools and what they'll do is
make them eligible for fats and so it'll add 20 percent to the cost of fees possibly it depends
how schools try to uh try to enact there and now for some people if you you know you're paying the
fact i don't know if it's boarding fees 42 grand at some of the some of the best schools then an
extra what would that be eight grand might not you know might not make a huge difference to you um
if it's the sort of fifteen thousand fourteen thousand day schools and you know parents skip
and save to do that because they want the best for their children and if you know if that's what they
want private education then that might make the difference between um being able to send your kid
private or not i mean what i think labour should be saying and about our same because they want all
schools to be good schools um the other thing as well with this it does sort of play to labour's
base in so much as they're going for class warfare here let's not you know there's not
been any doubt about this it's not gonna harm here politically to have a pop at their private schools
populated by middle class is also a bit unreasonable isn't it for them to have
charitable status because they're playing they they're businesses they're businesses they have
huge assets which they manage they have lots of money income coming in they have money never spent
going out it's not i can understand perhaps some of the original fee paying schools like christ
hospital and stuff like medieval schools yes i can see them being charitable enterprises originally
because someone donated and then someone would get children in but now um 40 grand a year
people making it is not a donation to charity it's not a philanthropy you're not
you're not funding oxfam by doing this and i suspect what the schools will
end up doing is coming forward with plans for higher bursaries more bursaries and trying to get
children from lower socioeconomic backgrounds into their schools by giving bursaries or free places
um whether or not that'll be enough to assuage labor with this policy um i doubt it and once
because policies actual proper policies and that was finally labour and kirsten are so thin on the
ground at the moment um if they were to then ditch when they've announced it would look a bit silly
so i think this will be something that that goes into the election manifesto as and when uh that
election is called um it depends on if you know if labour's able to govern alone then yeah this would
happen uh in the likely event of them having to go into coalition with some perhaps liberal democrats
maybe this will be one of those policies that gets ditched you know sacrificed on the altar
of greater governance and stable government um but it you know it is it's a policy for the base
of the party really and you know kirsten was on a roll at the moment after that
decision by durham constabulary last week not to uh not to find him or andrew rayner over
beer gates um and obviously managing to help get rid of the prime minister or a lot of that
foreign and i think we'll see that quite a confident upbeat labour leader when he
gets to his feet in newcastle just after 10 o'clock this morning well he's also got
a couple of months to look forward to of just tory infighting bloodletting abs just cheering
chewing chunks out of each other and he hasn't got to do anything they're just going to destroy
themselves while they do that until they get a new leader but when they do get a new leader out of
the ones who've come forward ben who do you think would be the best one from kirsten's point of view
he's obviously lost a lovely open goal in boris um but who who would be the one who he would prefer
it's difficult to say that because richie sooner
should be an open goal for labour you know wife used um they had non-dom status where she had
a green card because so the allegation goes he wanted to eventually become a u.s citizen
um worth 730 million pounds with you know if you count his wife's wealth as well because she's a
daughter of an indian billionaire um educator winchester college uh worked for goldman sachs
served tea to reporters last week in mugs that were 38 pounds each typical reporters
take them a mug they photograph it and then go and google it and see how much yeah that's detail um
i have to say i wasn't on the doorstep getting a 30k very enterprising photographer a reporter
who thought of that that's a funny looking mug i'm glad i wasn't with those because i'm quite
a bit of a clutch sometimes so dropping a 38 pound mug i mean yeah that was the one very much
that's the job for the builder's mug thing isn't it the chipmunks that you just you gather them
together and take those to the reporters not the nice ones maybe these weren't the nice ones maybe
these were the second best mugs um but yeah so richie in that respect but also you know the
public would remember the fact that he devised a photo scheme um that he spent an awful lot of
imaginary money borrowed money people wrote off billions as well um so i think they'd find
him a tricky opponent actually despite despite some of the advantages he would offer labour
um i think the one they would like to fight is the one who we're expecting to announce
um her candidacy today is pretty patel um because for all she talks hard to the tory rights and she
is you know popular with the grassroots durander deportation policy supposedly tough stance on
channel migrants which has worked so well we keep getting record numbers of migrants coming across
the channel um you know she hasn't managed to do what she set out to do at the home office um you
know she got sacked by theresa may for freelancing by visiting israeli politicians literally behind
the prime minister's back and then she uh a standard investigation by the government's ethics
advisor found she bullied civil servants so she'd be an open goal i'd have thought i think that she
if he had to go her dispatch block she'd um should claim he was bullying her maybe or feminist
you know that he's being something that you said picking her on something i don't know
i think i have the feeling she'd come over a bit margaret thatcher if she got to be
uh leader we'll see i think i think rishi would be so smooth that he'd make kia look less smooth
and it would play a bit in his favor who knows now mike there just said that the tory candidates all
seem to be attacking rather to the right even moderates are talking about keeping some of the
the more regressive policies um do we whoever wins do we expect that the tory's position to
stay much as it has been under boris well i was surprised yesterday when some of the moderate
candidates were on the sunday morning shows and everyone said yesterday around the policy um
i'm pretty sure that some of them don't agree with iran the policy but realize they can't say yeah i
ditch it because that's not what the grassroots wants here because you have to bear in mind here
you and i are on the audience for this election you know that's not the electorate exactly like
when we get to german election then they want to appeal to you and me and everyone else in the
country at the very first stage you have to appeal to other conservative mps because they need to get
enough to get on the ballot we don't even know how many that is yet because the rules don't get
decided till seven o'clock tonight then they've got to win enough votes of the conservative mps
in parliament to get down to the last two at which point then they go to the conservative membership
so 100 000 people in the shires and wherever else they may be based um they vote on who becomes the
leader so they'll be looking for conservative policies and then basically once you get that
once you get the leadership you can ditch your life if you want you know we've seen that with
his stamina he's done it with labor he said he said you know i'll follow basically a corbynite
agenda um when he was in the leadership election and now he's ditched it as you know as well
black piece of paper now let's play so because he needed to win the labour members over most of whom
were obviously very pleased with jeremy corbyn and the hard left policy agenda that was put forward
and roundly rejected in december 2017. no and then cleo like he said what he needed to say to get
elected as leader and now he's looking much wider to the general population the general elect ahead
of a general election where he needs to win over voters actual real voters not just labour members
and that's where you need a much more centrist and that's what he's going for policy platform
so expect over the next few weeks you know tory leadership contenders to say whatever they like
in order to win over support of the mps and then the tory party members and then they can start
putting out a proper policy platform once they get into number 10. yeah so it answers your question
mike they're playing to uh mostly men over 50 who are white and live in the south of england
so that's why they're gonna they're gonna be anti-woke pro-brexit um and anti-too many
women minority-ish things i would have thought we'll have to wait and see there won't be jamie
says do you think a general election should be called let the people decide who look after our
best interests i suspect we've got a couple of months jamie of the toy leadership contest
and then when we have a new prime minister that's been imposed upon us by the gammons of southeast
england um there will be lots and lots of pressure internally and externally for a general
election maybe but teresa and boris both sort of plowed on until they couldn't go any further
so they both ended up having to call a general election because of the pressure
not immediately perhaps by christmas perhaps in the new year there might be a general election i
think labour are going to be calling for it for quite a long time so we'll have to wait
and see won't we but there's bound to be one at some point soon so watch this space