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we are back discussing this second season episode 9 which was titled sparring partners
which unfortunately means we got one episode left which is next week's finale and i'm gonna give you
my thoughts and theories later in this video but today there's some moments we gotta break down
in this ninth episode i'm talking rose cooper i'm talking about the real daddy of william and
detective crips his motives and the things he would do for the person he loves we have a lot
to discuss in today's breakdown and we're going to spoil it all but before we get into the breakdown
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let me know your thoughts on this ninth episode from becky butler and why is poppy doing this
with cinda what does she have over her and we've been talking about it for weeks there's more than
one killer there's possibly more than two killers or people involved in the murder of bunny we got
our criminal mastermind we got our puppet but who was the actual killer let me know your thoughts
on that and of course what you all hope to see in next week's finale let's talk about it all in the
comments below so this is gonna be a fun time as it is every single week with all that being said
full spoilers ahead as we open the episode with detective crips motives and of course it boils
down to money issues we see that he is living paycheck to paycheck and we see him taking these
different side jobs for example being a security guard we see him tampering with evidence which
leads him to meeting someone at the chicken bar and that's where things get crazy now we obviously
will talk about who he's been meeting at this chicken bar cinda but at first i'm like okay y'all
know i've been talking about cinnamon for the last few weeks but i'm like couldn't and y'all know
how i felt about poppy could it be poppy is she the criminal mastermind could it be rose pooper
herself we're going to get into that reveal again cinda and what is her motives why is she doing all
this is it really just for fame we'll talk about that a little bit later but meanwhile we see that
money is a very strong motive as charles and mabel try to figure out why would detective crips kill
bunny and this again goes back to them putting on the board the criminal mastermind we got the
criminal mastermind we got the puppet but who is the killer or killers we still have a big
mystery box on that but as we check back in we see that oliver is indeed the father of william
or at least that's what he's telling william from now because he has a big moment with teddy
in this episode we see that oliver wants to celebrate this big news as he gives charles
jill dean he doesn't want it which leads them to discovering a hidden drawer and surprise surprise
it's the original painting that we've been talking about it almost feels like what was that episode
two when we got the rose cooper painting that it wasn't the original so now we have the original
and we also find out a little bit more about that painting in this episode as speaking of gifts
we cut to our scene in which alice is paying a visit to mabel and she has a gift for her
which is a puzzle and this is a really interesting moment i really enjoyed this moment for the mabel
character because surprisingly she thanks alice for helping her realize that her life is more than
living in the worst parts and this is the moment where we see alice leaves and for the moment
not going to be together which i think is a good thing because we see that mabel she has a
she kind of picks her wrong you know love interest she can't trust people she can't trust alice and
i totally agree with her i still have my inklings and my suspicions on alice i don't know if we're
going to see her in next week's finale i think we will and i'll get to that in the the end of
this video because i still think there's something more to her family her backstory
and how does she know about cinda she was the one that pointed mabel in that direction we'll get
to that a little bit later but i don't know if we're gonna get any more of her this season and
it's gonna be more of season three let me know how you all feel about alice where you at where you're
at mentally with the character and do you like me believe there's more to her character let's
speculate about that in the comments below but getting back into the conversation miss leonora
who isn't who she says she is we see charles calls a living facility and discovers that leonora
that we met weeks ago was a fraud and she is the one and only rose cooper meanwhile we see that
william learns the news of his father being oliver which we'll discuss again that wasn't the truth
this whole season of theme is what these parents would do to protect their kids by lion send them
to protect them right so that's a big theme that we got in not only this episode but of course this
season thus far which brings us into a perfect follow-up scene which shows charles looking at the
watch that his father gave him which leads him to a dress that he finds in the back of his watch
and it appears to be the location of where he can find rose cooper meanwhile we see mabel finds the
address of where crips lives and it's time for our characters to pay a visit to these characters and
it looks like it's time for them to fight we have mabel versus detective crips in the ring who's
going to be questioning him and do we have charles versus the fake laura dean aka rose cooper and
let's go ahead and throw in oliver and teddy which let's just kind of focus on that big reveal that
we got an episode which we get the moment where oliver tells teddy that he is indeed the father
of william now it appears that teddy didn't know that he was the father he said that he slept with
oliver's wife not once but twice in the same night that is you know we've got to have the
technicality of the sexual affairs that they had but in all seriousness i i did enjoy this moment
of the father's kind of talking about not only how they want to be different fathers than their
fathers because it seems like neither one of them i'm talking about charles i'm sorry oliver
and teddy didn't have the best relationship with their father and in doing so it's one of those
conversations that you have that you're trying to intentionally do better than what you were
learned as a kid and unfortunately when you're trying to force something it can kind of hurt
relationships we see that with teddy and obviously theo and we see oliver just always wants to push
to be the best dad but sometimes that cause a bit of a rift between the two right and
we obviously saw them come back together he gets his son into the theater but again
i just love how they're just tying all these trying to amend the sins of your father again
that's such a central theme that has been really highlighted really well in this season for me but
again going back into this conversation we see that they just ultimately want to protect their
sons and oliver and teddy agree to never let this secret out about william which i believe
if not next week the reveal of who william's father is will be revealed inevitably again
it could be next week it could be in season three i think that that's secret because it
seems like secrets in this show always find their way to the light it will be inevitably revealed
who the father is but getting back into our other fighting sparring partners in this episode we see
that mabel grill detective rips about how there's no way he could have set up this whole situation
he's just not that smart as crips starts to spill the beans about landing the smartest woman on
the planet and making a better podcast than they have with all is not okay that's a big moment he
and mabel she is she's a great detective she knew how to poke at him and get it you know because she
stabbed him in an arm a couple weeks ago all pun intended there but she knew how to poke the bear
she knew how to get information out of him and she got that information smartest woman on the planet
they have a better podcast than you she puts two and two together and we'll talk about that reveal
a little bit later but she also finds out about the whole chicken connection and puts that to the
puzzle as she actually uses the puzzle that was given to her and then she starts to put again the
pieces to the puzzle together but we're going to talk about her a little bit later let's talk about
rose cooper as she gives the details of charles about why she did what she did about stealing
someone's identity and what she's been doing and how she went about missing for so many years
she ultimately shows charles a mystery painting of charles dad who ultimately just want to be a
father for his son again it's the conversation it's generational kind of issues within the
father of our characters we heard that about oliver not necessarily being close to his dad
we see the relationship between charles and his father we saw mabel and her losing her father and
how that impact our characters again if there's one thing that i can say that has been really
integral to this season is and we'll talk about it next week as far as maybe the inconsistencies
compared to season one but i will say the highlighting the performances who these characters
are in their past has been one of the highlights for me in this entire season but we got more to
reveal in this episode as we wrap it all up mabel is looking for cinda and she finds poppy who's
trying to warn her that she should leave before cinda arrives mabel tells her she discovered all
the stuff that she broke down in this episode and she wants her to leave we cut back to rose who
tells about how she was happy charles was the one that found him painting because there was a woman
that kept pestering her and sniffing around it which leads us to poppy telling mabel that cinda
is willing to do whatever to get what she wants we see detective crips was the one giving cinda the
evidence for her podcast and she was the one that he met at the chicken joint which leads us to
the big moment here poppy lets mabel know that she's not who she says she's is she's actually
revealed to be becky butler the victim and the centerpiece which made cena's podcast so big
and it's also such just a huge moment again i want to go back to why that moment so big number one if
you are like wait becky butler becky butler was the centerpiece of cinda's podcast it's not okay
oklahoma that was what got our crew together right and if you all recall cinda was such a
she was giving she was nice she was the one that shouted them out on the jimmy
fallon show so she is she's two-faced right she could be nice she could be evil but again becky
in her podcast was killed was murdered and cinda blamed i want to say it was the mayor of the town
and brought like the turkey to his house and that ties to the whole sting episode when they gave
sting the turkey and they thought that he was the killer tim which it wasn't the case
but again it makes you think okay becky butler's alive and her uncle was looking for her and the
whole dog and everything so what is it that cinda has over becky to make her want to continue to
go on with this lie to not give her up and tell the police or tell someone what she actually did
that's the question that i'm very curious about let me know your thoughts on that but again
becky butler she's alive and it just goes to show you the lengths that cinda is willing to do to get
this big podcast to get all these big things which makes me think as far as next week's episode goes
she's gonna probably be the main focus we're gonna probably get her back story get her understanding
learn her motives but also more importantly she was able to manipulate detective crypt
someone down and out someone needed money who was desperate for money but also kind of fell
in love and i don't think it's a two-way street i think cinda's just completely manipulated him to
get what she wants but then who's her other puppet master who is the actual killer who's the one that
actually killed money is the big question of him which makes me go back to there has to be a reason
why they show nina's husband i think there's something to be said about him and this whole
you know modifying the the building and being the head of the board and all this different stuff
i feel like he has something to do with this but also it brings me back to alice and her motives
because i go back to it again alice was the one that pointed mabel in the direction of cinderella
when she put the pieces to the puzzle it was on that puzzle her podcast but why would she give
up cinda what are their connections so i don't know if alice is the actual killer ah it's just
making me think in my head we we kind of uh left uh mev out from last week more about i'm sorry
i still have some feelings about nina's husband and who else is out there we talked about ivan i
don't think ivan would have done this he seemed to really care about bunny and i go back to the
night that buddy died when we saw her get actually murdered in her episode when that
person came to her door she knew who they were she was very upset she was very like oh you again i'm
just trying to think in my head who's had beef with bunny who's been on her nerve who's been
someone that's been pestering her and it makes me go back to nina's husband someone that was
probably pushing her out of the board that want to get these modifications that's who my number
one suspect is right now i could be completely wrong it's nina's husband but then the question
would be why why would he be involved does he have an affair with cinda uh i can go on and on
and on with all these different theories but i'm gonna wrap this video up but what a great episode
again i love the acting i love the performances i thought the reveals were really well done
rose cooper we finally get the reveal there that's been lingering for weeks the the teddy
daddy william thing i think there's still to be had still some more story involved in that besides
the big reveal and of course what has theo been doing this whole time so we got a lot to fulfill
in next week's finale i i think we're going to end on the cliffhanger because we already know we're
going to season three so we'll see how satisfying the finale is going to be but nonetheless i'm
excited for it i'm here for it i'll be back next week talking about it but in the meantime
let's discuss this ninth episode highs lows pros cons thoughts theories predictions and everything
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