(Sound) Hey everybody, what's going on?
"Clint" and "Ti" here, we got a chance to go see 'Fast and Furious'.
Nope, we got a chance to go see 'The Fate of the Furious'.
- It's 'Eight Fast, Eight Furious'.
- It's a missed opportunity is what it is.
Anyway, 'Fate of the Furious' out this weekend.
This is the one, now "Dominic Toretto", "Vin Diesel", he's gone rogue.
- Yeah. - He's betrayed his family,
which is a very big deal for him.
- Mm-hm.
- And then he's working with "Charlize Theron", who's a hacker named Cypher.
- Wearing "Angelina Jolie's" wig from 'Gone in 60 Seconds'.
- Yeah, would it have been better if it was "Angelina Jolie's" wig from 'Hackers'?
- Probably.
- Mm-hm.
So "Statham" is back in the mix.
"Kurt Russel" is there again.
We got cars fighting submarines.
It's a 'Fast and the Furious' movie.
- I feel like this movie is exactly what I was expecting.
It more or less continues in the vein of what we've seen this franchise do.
I think at this point though,
they're gonna see a little bit of diminishing returns.
Because even for people who are on board with this franchise and kind of buy into
the it's ridiculous and I'm here for it kind of premise, I think they're starting
to hit a point where they're not taking it to anywhere that's new and refreshing.
And you can see them visible straining to try to up the ante.
- I've always been on that train, and there's a lot of talk going around about
like, I mean, it is what it is, you guys, and it's fun.
I understand that line of thinking for 'The Fast and Furious' movies.
I've never quite bought into it, but now I really don't.
Part of the charm of this franchise is how earnest they are when they're not
wrecking cars all over the place, right?
- Right. - It's all about family.
- Family. - Everybody's taking it so seriously, and
it's the end of the world.
And the whole family part of it has been a growing part in the franchise.
I feel like the percentage of ridiculous car action to family earnestness has gone.
The scales are tipping in the wrong direction, I feel like,
especially with this one.
And now, they've got "Statham" back in the mix, and he's part of the family too.
But guys, two movies ago, he murdered your family in cold blood.
- Right.
- So all this earnest family business, it's bull (Bleep).
- Yeah, how are you gonna bring a guy into your family,
when he killed one of your other family members?
- This franchise has turned a corner, to where the cool fun stuff isn't cool or
fun enough to counteract the rest of the crap that they're leaning on.
The really over-dramatic, self-serious, family stuff, not fun.
- I almost felt like there wasn't enough driving in the movie as well.
- Yeah. - I feel like there were maybe three
sequences that involved a race/chase.
And for 'Fast and Furious' movie, I kinda want more than that.
I know they open with one which is sort of traditional for the movie.
They kind of followed a lot of the story structures that we've seen in the past and
at this point, it's becoming a little bit rote, a little bit overdone.
But in terms of them trying to like,
what can we do this time that we haven't done before?
I don't really think that they delivered in quite the way that they did in
the "Justin Lin" era of the 'Fast and the Furious' movies.
Which I think is when that franchise became what it is for a lot of people.
I think right now, thy're trying to do something that's really taking them off
track, rather than actually creating a more revitalize version of this franchise.
- I think, if you look at what they did between the fourth one and
the fifth one, by the time they got to the fourth one, it's like,
okay there's nothing else that we can do with street racing.
Let's make them heist movies now.
- Exactly. - And it was great.
I think the fifth one is legitimately a really good movie.
But I think they are at another point right now,
where they need to do that again.
If they want to keep making these movies, they need to change course,
because the stuff that's getting old is the family stuff.
Everybody laughed.
There was lollling in the theater.
- Yeah. - Every time anybody said-
- Said the word family.
- That's getting old.
The other bit that's wearing out is like wait, aren't these guys just mechanics and
street racers?
- Totally, a few of our compatriots in the YouTube movie review game have made
the same observation where it's just like, wait a minute,
weren't you just like a street racer guy a couple of movies ago and
now you're the most dangerous man in the world?
Like when did that happen exactly?
And why are you able to just like be a straight up murderer as well?
I'm not sure when you got a license to kill.
- That is the other thing, the body count in this movie is ridiculous.
- It's very high.
And like innocent people who are just doing their jobs,
like security guards and things- - Yeah, there's a scene in the beginning
that involves a wrecking ball and then after the wrecking ball sweeps through and
destroys all of these cars in a number of ways, "Ludacris" is like, (Laugh) gotcha.
- Because it's "Ludacris".
- No, you just murdered like 30 people.
- Yeah. - It's gone to a place that I don't think
it needs to go any further.
It needs to pivot.
- Go back to the heist.
- Yeah, just go back to the easy heist, I don't need you saving the world.
- I always love a good heist movie.
I do not want to think that "Vin Diesel" is the one who's gonna prevent nuclear
apocalypse.
- Overall, I'm over it.
- Yeah, if anything, I think they really need to lean more on "Jason Statham",
because I would say "Jason Statham", for me,
was by far the most fun part of this movie.
- What you want after 'The Fate of the Furious' is the "Rock's",
"Hobbs," and "Jason Statham's," "Deckard Shaw," the buddy cop movie.
- "Hobbs and Shaw". - "Hobbs and Shaw" buddy cops.
- Yeah.
- That's all I want now.
- Overall, I'd say, that if you are already a fan of 'the Fast and Furious'
franchise and if you've completely embraced the rediculousness of it,
you'll still enjoy this movie, I would say very much.
You'll probably like it a lot more than I did.
I think that I've never fully bought into it even a little bit, so
I've always been kind of the skeptic in the theater,
laughing when they're not trying to be funny.
And, for me, I feel like they've lost their way a little bit with this one.
- Okay, so that's what we think of 'Fate of the Furious'.
Now let's move on to the recommendation after this.
What are we watching instead of 'Fate of the Furious'?
- You know what I'm actually going to recommend?
I'm gonna recommend literally anything else, just kidding.
- (Laugh) - I'm gonna recommend 'The Italian Job',
which was also directed by "F Gary Gray" and it also has "Charlize Theron" in it.
I feel like- - And "Jason Statham".
- And "Jason Statham" as a matter of fact.
I feel like that is the fun heist ensemble type of movie that I wish this had been,
instead of getting a little bit too big for its britches.
- Yeah, it is kind of a good version of the glory days of 'The Fast and
the Furious' franchise.
- Yeah. - It's fun,
the laws of physics don't exclusively work, but they're not insane.
- And they're not trying to offend your intelligence, either.
- (Laugh) It's not about family.
For my recommendation, I'm gonna to go back to 2007, and 'Shoot ' Up',
starring "Clive Owen" and "Paul Giamatti", it is a really silly movie.
It's nothing but like really strangely choreographed action sequences,
like "Clive Owen" plays a drifter and at the beginning of the movie,
he kills a guy by stabbing him in the face with a carrot.
It's strange and it's goofy- - You had me at hello.
- Yeah, right?
There's a plot that involves the second amendment and gun control, and
also bone marrow transplants.
It's a bonkers plot but it's so secondary to what the movie actually is, and
it's just like silly mindless gun-play and action.
And it is a lot of fun.
(Sound) All right everybody, that is what we think of 'Fate of the Furious'.
If you've seen it, let us know what you think in the comments down below.
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