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HOUSE MINORITY LEADER KEVIN
McCARTHY SAYS ALABAMA’S NEW
ABORTION LAW GOES TO FAR BUT
DECLINED TO SAY WHETHER IT
SHOULD BE OVERTURNED.
AS REPUBLICANS NAVIGATE THE
GROWING BACKLASH OVER THE
NATION’S STRICTEST ABORTION
LEGISLATE, HERE’S WHAT HE HAD TO
SAY.
SAY. >> DO YOU THINK THAT LAW GOES
TOO FAR?
TOO FAR? >> IT GOES FURTHER THAN I
BELIEVE, YES.
BELIEVE, YES. I DEFEND MY PRO-LIFE POSITION
FOR MY WHOLE POLITICAL CAREER.
BUT I ALSO BELIEVED IN RAPE,
INCEST OR LIFE OF THE MOTHER.
THERE WERE EXCEPTION.
THAT’S WHAT REPUBLICANS HAVE
VOTED ON IN THIS HOUSE.
THAT’S WHAT OUR PLATFORM SAYS
AND I BELIEVE THAT’S THE POINT
OF WHAT YOU FIND MANY OF US OF
WHERE WE STAND.
>> IT DISTANCING COMES AS THE
NATIONAL PARTY STRUG TOLLS MAKE
INROADS WITH SUBURBAN WOMEN
BEFORE THEIR 2020 REELECTION
CAMPAIGNS WHILE STATE
REPUBLICANS MOVE TO REMOVE THE
RAPE AND INCEST EXCEPTION FROM
THEIR INCREASINGLY STRINGENT
ANTI-ABORTION BILLS TO PUSH THE
ISSUE BEFORE THE SPORT.
>> GENE, YOU KNOW, FOOLS RUSH
IN.
IN. THEY OVERREACH.
THEY OVERREACH. A LOT OF DEMOCRATS WERE
CONCERNED WHEN NEW YORK STATE
PASSED ABORTION BILLS THAT I
THINK 14%S ARE 15, 15% OF AMERIC
SUPPORT IT.
SUPPORT IT. NOW REPUBLICANS HAVE SNATCHED
DEFEAT OUT OF THE JAWS OF
POLITICAL VICTORY AND HAVE GONE
THE OTHER WAY AND THEIR
EXTREMISM IS SCARING THE HELL
OUT OF A LOT OF AMERICANS WHO
MIGHT EVEN BE PRO-LIFE AND, YOU
KNOW, THOSE EDUCATED, SUBURBAN,
REPUBLICAN WOMEN THAT STARTED TO
MOVE AWAY FROM THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY, THEY’RE IN A FULL-OUT
SPRINT NOW.
SPRINT NOW. >> YEAH, THINK THAT’S ALL THIS
LAW IS EVER GOING TO ACCOMPLISH
ACTUALLY, IS IN THE POLITICAL
SENSE TO HURT REPUBLICANS AND TO
DRIVE THOSE WOMEN AND MEN AWAY
FROM AN EXTREMIST LAW THAT IS --
THE ANTI-ABORTION FORCES AND I
DON’T SUPPORT THEM, BUT THEY
HAVE BEEN DOING WELL WITH AN
INCREMENTAL APPROACH TO TRY TO
RESTRICT ABORTION.
RESTRICT ABORTION. YOU KNOW, HOW MANY WEEKS AND
THIS AND THAT.
THEY’VE BEEN DOING WELL WITH
THAT.
THAT. THIS SO FAR OVERREACHES, I
ACTUALLY -- I’M NOT CONVINCED IT
WILL EVER GET TO THE SUPREME
COURT.
COURT. I THINK IT WILL BE IMMEDIATELY
ENJOINED, IMMEDIATELY STRUCK
DOWN, STRUCK DOWN AT THE APPEALS
LEVEL AND I DON’T THINK THE
SUPREME COURT WANTS TO HEAR THIS
CASE.
CASE. THIS IS A BAD CASE.
I DON’T THINK THEY WILL WANT TO
TAKE IT UP.
BUT MEAN WHILE, IT’S THERE ON
THE BOOKS AND REPUBLICANS ARE
GOING TO HAVE TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS ABOUT IT AND THEY’RE
GOING TO HAVE TO SAY WHERE THEY
STAND ON IT AND IT’S GOING TO
HURT THEM.
HURT THEM. >> THE PROPERTY AFTER SEVERAL
THAMES WILL DENY CERTIFICATE.
THE ONLY THING THIS ALABAMA HOME
WILL DO IS SET PACK THE PRO-LIFE
ISSUE FOR YEARS.
MY GOSH, PLANNED PARENTHOOD WILL
RAISE SO MUCH MONEY.
LET’S WAIT A WEEK AND SEE HOW
MUCH PLANNED PARENTHOOD MAKES
OFF OF THIS EXTREMIST MOVE.
THERE WAS PURE VIRTUE SIGNALING
BY CONSERVATIVES AND THEY’RE
GOING TO PAY FOR IT.
>> EVEN AMONG EVANGELICALS, THIS
DOESN’T CRACK 30% SUPPORT.
EVANGELICALS.
EVANGELICALS. AND WHAT YOU’RE SEEING NOW IS
ALL OF THESE NEWS STORIES COMING
OUT ABOUT 11 AND 12-YEAR-OLDS
WHO HAVE BEEN RAPED AND THEIR
LITTLE BODIES WEREN’T MADE TO DO
THIS.
THIS. THAT IS WHAT SPLASHED ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. AND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THIS
BEING ONLY POLITICAL, IF YOU’RE
A REPUBLICAN IN MONTANA,
CALIFORNIA OR MASSACHUSETTS,
YOU’RE STILL GOING TO GET
LABELED AS BEING PART OF A PARTY
THAT PUSHED THIS FORWARD.
AND, SECONDLY, I THINK IT’S
GOING TO GIVE DEMOCRATS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN A BIG ARE
DIALOGUE ABOUT WHAT IS PRO-LIFE
BECAUSE IS PRO-LIFE FORCING A
LAW LIKE THIS ON TO WOMEN AND AT
THE SAME TIME CUTTING FUNDING
FOR PROGRAMS, FOR INSTANCE, THAT
HELP PREVENT THAT, ARE
SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN TO HELP
PREVENT TEEN-AGE PREGNANCY,
CUTTING NUTRITIONAL ASSISTANCE
TO MOTHERS AND CHILDREN, CUTTING
MEDICAID, WHICH WE KNOW HELPS
BABIES AND SINGLE MOTHERS.
AND SO IT REALLY WILL ALLOW
DEMOCRATS I THINK TO START TO
MAKE THAT ARGUMENT ABOUT MORALS
AND WHAT REALLY IS PRO-LIFE AND
WHAT REALLY IS SUPPORTIVE OF
MOTHERS AND CHILDREN.
>> I THINK KEVIN McCARTHY SPEAKS
FOR A LOT OF PRO-LIFERS IN THIS
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. YOU CAN SEE THE FRUSTRATION
WRITTEN ALL OVER HIS FACE AS HE
ANSWERED THAT QUESTION, WHICH IS
THAT THEY HAVE A PRINCIPLED
BELIEF THAT ABORTION GENERALLY
SPEAKING IS WRONG AND THAT A
VIABLE BABY SHOULD NOT BE
TERMINATED.
TERMINATED. AND SO WHEN THEY HEAR THIS MOST
EXTREME EXAMPLE OF HOW ABORTION
CAN BE USED, THINK AGAIN
SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHAT THEY’RE
SAYING, AN UNCLE, A FATHER RAPES
YOU, YOU MUST DELIVER THE BABY,
A STRANGER ATTACKS YOU, YOU MUST
DELIVER THE BABY.
>> AND YOU’RE 12.
>> WHAT COULD BE MORE BARBARIC?
OF KOUS BECAUSE OF WHERE WE
LIVE, THAT EXAMPLE WILL BE
LIFTED UP AS THE REPRESENTATIVE
OF THE ANTI-ABORTION IN THE
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. >> MIKA SAID BEFORE ALABAMA IS
NOT A SWING STATE.
I SHOULD KNOW, I’VE BEEN THERE
ENOUGH.
ENOUGH. DOUG JONES WON AGAINST A GUY WHO
WAS ATTACKED FOR PREYING ON
YOUNG 14-YEAR-OLD GIRLS.
HE DENIED IT BUT THAT WAS THE
ATTACK.
ATTACK. SO, DONNY, ADD THAT ON TOP OF A
BILL THAT APRIL LOUS AN OLDER
MAN TO RAPE A 14-YEAR-OLD GIRL
AND SHE HAS TO DELIVER THE BABY?
THAT IS VERY BAD, EVEN FOR
ALABAMA REPUBLICANS.
ALABAMA REPUBLICANS. >> FOR EVERYWHERE.
WHAT WON TRUMP, WON THE RABS THE
ELECTION IN 2016 WAS PASSION.
THEY HAD THE PASSION.
YOU WANT TO TUSH OAF CHARGE
PASSION ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE,
THERE IS NO PRT WAY.
PUT THIS TOGETHER WITH THE
PASSION OF ANTY TRUMP --
>> THIS IS WHAT THE WOMEN’S
MARCH WARNED US ABOUT.
NOW A LOT OF PEOPLE LAUGH OF
LAUGHED AT THAT AND HERE WE ARE.
>>YOU LOOK AT NORTH CAROLINA.,
VIRGINIA, OHIO, WHICH IS,
PENNSYLVANIA.
PENNSYLVANIA. YOU LOOK AT THE SWING STATES AND
PARTS OF FLORIDA, WHICH IS
REALLY A TRUMP STATE RIGHT NOW,
BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THESE
SWING STATES, IOWA, WHERE IT’S
NOT GOOD FOR REPUBLICAN
PROSECUTORS.
PROSECUTORS. >> COMING UP, WE’VE SEVERAL
EXAMPLES WAS IGNORED BY HIS
CLOSEST ADVISERS.