nbc news has confirmed that the
committee investigating investigating
the january sixth attack on the capitol
has obtained text messages that show
conservative activist jenny thomas
the wife of supreme court justice
clarence thomas
repeatedly pressing then trump white
house chief of staff mark meadows to
fight to overturn the election
copies of 29 text messages were obtained
by the washington post nbc news has not
reviewed those texts the first message
was a link to a video from a far-right
conspiracy theorist that claimed trump
watermarked ballots as part of an effort
to catch fraud
in the message she texted
i hope this is true
never heard anything like this before or
even a hint of it possible she asked she
went on to quote a passage that
circulated on far right websites about
the quote biden crime family and ballot
fraud co-conspirators
being arrested and quote
will be
lying in barges off gitmo to face living
in barges off gitmo to face military
tribunals force addition my god
according to the post on november 6 she
followed up encouraging mark meadows
quote do not concede it takes time for
the army who is gathering for his back
this is crazy on november 10th after
news organizations had declared joe
biden the projected winner thomas
reportedly texted meadows help this
great president stand firm mark you are
the leader with him who is standing for
america's constitutional governance at
the precipice the majority knows biden
and the left is attempting the greatest
heist of our history
and willie painfully there is much more
yeah this is really extraordinary stuff
from bob woodward and bob costa the post
reports thomas also pushed meadows to
work closely with sydney powell one of
the lawyers who promoted conspiracy
theories to help trump overturn the
election even when donald trump began to
distance himself from powell thomas
stood by her reportedly texting mark
meadows on november 13th quote don't let
her and your assets be marginalized
instead help her be the lead and the
face
the next day thomas sent meadows a text
that she said was from congressman louis
gomer's chief of staff writing this
quote the most important thing you can
realize right now is that there are no
rules in war
this war is psychological psyop she
wrote
in a november 24th message to thomas the
post says meadows responded this way
quote
this is a fight of good versus evil evil
always looks like the victor until the
king of kings triumphs do not grow weary
in well doing the fight continues i have
staked my career on it that's from mark
meadows back to jenny thomas thomas
responds this way thank you needed that
this plus a conversation with my best
friend just now i will try to keep
holding on america is worth it
it's unclear who exactly thomas was
referring to as her best friend but
previous reports
say thomas and her husband refer to each
other in that regard and have done so
publicly justice thomas is not directly
referenced in any of the messages and
mrs thomas has said in the past she and
her husband are not involved in each
other's work however clarence thomas was
the only justice will remind you who
voted against the national archives
handing over president trump's
presidential records which include these
text messages to the january 6 committee
and he dissented when the supreme court
rejected trump's bogus election
challenges
nbc news has reached out to the attorney
for mark meadows and to jenny thomas for
comment so joe a lot to digest there
obviously the key question is
does jenny thomas speak for or represent
the thinking of justice clarence thomas
who made those decisions who recused
himself in that other case but this is
true forgive me quack stuff that she's
pushing out there and suggesting that
sydney powell perhaps the lead quack run
this operation
well yeah and i must say spending a good
deal of my adult life in the
conservative community in washington d.c
this is one of the most disturbing
things i've read i can't believe i'm
saying this through the entire trump
presidency and what we found out after
the trump presidency for three reasons
first of all
spouses do their own work they can do
whatever they they want to do
clarence thomas does not tell his wife
what to do and vice versa we can make
that assumption but jenny thomas on her
own
on her own
has been a pillar of washington dc's
conservative community she's revered
she's celebrated the the the the who's
who
of washington d.c
looks upon this woman
as a leader of the conservative movement
it tells you how deeply corrupted and
intellectually flawed that movement
became through the trump years jenny
thomas i must say on a personal note
when i knew her serving in the house of
representatives she was always an
apologist
for the the republican establishment she
always carried the water for the
republican establishment and she has
maintained those ties throughout her
time in washington dc so jenny thomas is
a representative of where the republican
party has gone over the past 25 30 years
that's frightening enough reading these
text messages secondly you have the
chief of staff
of the president of the united states
actually
actually summoning the name of jesus
christ think about the sickness of this
he summons the name of jesus christ
for his help
in overturning american democracy now
you could you could call it what you
want to call it uh but but but
if you're trying to to to throw out
a presidential election because you lost
that's over that's overthrowing american
democracy and he says he will make it
the fight of his life
with the help of jesus christ
to overturn american democracy okay so
see here's the thing about mark when he
was trying to undermine american
democracy he said this is a fight
of good versus evil but as a friend of
mine said after reading the story last
night he's right it was a fight between
good and evil
he just got the jerseys mixed up
he was not on the side of good using
jesus christ's name
to spread lies
to spread conspiracy theories
i'm telling you that's a level of
sickness i never thought i would see
from my old party and the third thing
that is yes it is shocking about this
that clarence thomas
when he had a case that came before him
that he knew his wife would be
associated with
didn't recuse himself
he was the lone dissenter to stop these
text messages from coming out
and
and we've been told by the way
that clarence thomas is in good health
that he's going to be fine that he's
recovered from treatment and we are very
grateful for that and we look forward to
him coming back on the court sometime
very soon
what he did here
shocking
any judge
you know what he said before where he
said
the the the work of spouses can be
separated out and should be separated
out
they're independent actors
except when they're not
and here
this is where their work comes together
and and i will say jonathan lemire the
fact that clarence thomas did not recuse
himself the fact that the president's
chief of staff
after a presidential election that
everybody knows he lost including mark
meadows everybody knows he lost
including mark meadows he says he's
going to make it the fight of his life
with the help of jesus christ the king
of kings the lord of lords
to overturn american democracy
this is
really
really sick stuff
and it really does show
just the depths to which these people
were willing to go
to try to
to try to attack american democracy and
throw out
what donald trump's
own people said was the cleanest
presidential election in american
history
yeah you'd think we'd be beyond surprise
at this point but this was a draw
dropping story when it broke last night
and a lot of democrats that i talked to
aides to members of congress suggested
like could this be something where
clarence thomas be impeached or at least
being have faced an inquiry about this
there's only been one supreme court
justice ever impeached before in the
history of the united states we should
mention tom is still hospitalized for an
infection there is belief that he will
recover the supreme court says but it's
not clear when he will resume his duties
physically on the bench
but this is something also we should
remember that mark meadows is a criminal
referral for mark meadows from the
january 6 committee because of his
refusal to cooperate with that
investigation so a lot of people looking
at the department of justice to see
where that could go but this shows in
such stark detail
the efforts to overturn the election and
the delusion that had gripped
the trump white house and some of its
closest allies to try to
compare this effort to
the
work of jesus christ and to call it the
work of good versus evil and to show
that it will stop at nothing this these
of texts all come from the
window right after the election uh and
we know that the fever only intensified
within the west wing as trump so many
staffers left and trump was only left
there with his loyalists
including rudy giuliani sydney powell
who kind of came in and out of favor
and mark meadows was there throughout
and they stopped at nothing in efforts
to try to overturn
this election we should also mention
jennie thomas has admitted
she was at president trump's rally on
the ellipse the morning of january 6.
she said she did not go on to the
capitol ahead of the riot but she was
right there in every possible effort to
overturn this election the wife of the
city supreme court justice
yeah let me just say
democrats talking about impeachment or
are people talking about crimes coming
out of this just take a deep breath
what we've learned is justice will not
be served when it comes to donald trump
it just won't i don't know why i don't
know why the justice department won't
walk through that door and actually hold
him accountable i don't know what
happened
in manhattan i under i i sure know that
the prosecutors we didn't report about
this because
well we've got a war going on we're on
the verge of world war three but you
have a prosecutor who quit the case up
in manhattan because he said what we all
know we all know this too donald trump's
guilty of multiple crimes now if you're
out there writing columns saying that
this is a witch hunt you don't know
donald trump donald trump hyper inflated
the value of his assets his entire
life he lied to banks about it is the
testimony he lied he lied to everybody
about it has long been the opinion of
everybody that's ever known him or been
around him and it seems that the facts
bear that out certainly the prosecutor
thought that but guess what
once again donald trump escapes justice
so so if you're sitting here reading
this story thinking that actually
justice will be served against these
people who tried to overthrow american
democracy we found out that this justice
department is not interested in doing
that
we found out merrick garland's not
interested in serving up justice because
somebody somewhere might think oh my god
there's a political angle to this
are you kidding me this after that guy
that's on the screen right now spent
four years trying to break down the wall
between the white house and the justice
department
the white house and the fbi the white
house and the intel services and now we
have an attorney general that won't even
bring charges when crimes are committed
we have a we we have a d.a
in in manhattan that won't even bring
charges when his own prosecutors who
have been on this case a long time said
he's committed multiple crimes it's just
not going to happen in this case mika
it's not gonna happen either and that's
all a very long prelude to say this
even if no charges
are ever brought
even if there's no disciplinary actions
ever taken in this case this woodward
story
and costa story
these texts
these exchanges serve as the most
damning indictment against the trump
white house that we have seen so far and
mark meadows makes it very clear
that he is going to use the shield of
jesus christ so what a what a righteous
man to overturn american democracy and
prosecutors i don't know if intent still
matters at the justice department but if
it does
he says in his text
that the mission of his life
will be overturning
a fair and free democratic american
election
let that sink in for a second guys
gals
and tell me whether there's intent there
to subvert american democracy
well we know how this story is going to
end everybody's going to walk the bad
guys always get away in the trump
administration they will here as well
it's just
it's unfortunately
the whole american belief that no man is
above the law
that doesn't apply to donald trump we
don't know why it just doesn't but again
this story in and of itself mika
these texts
they indict
all of them as un-american
unpatriotic seditioners
end of story
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