in this episode, we react to a Joe Rogan video where he sits down with Mark from
soft white underbelly and he talks about the first time meeting the Hells Angels going to
their Clubhouse asking to take pictures getting the door slammed in his face,
and get into it on this episode a demons Row TV and oh yeah we ghostin baby
sets welcome to Demons Row TV the holy grail and MC culture where we cover everything
motorcycle and Motorcycle Club involved I'm sose the ghost I'm your host for the
evening and today we talk about a Joe Rogan interview one of my favorites and one of the
most important voices of the time because he's opening up conversation from both sides left
and the right but today we're going to break down his interview with Mark from soft white
underbelly and if you don't know about him he interviews everybody from Skid Row from
some of the roughest places in the world and if you haven't seen our video with us out there in
skid row with the clubs check that out I'll link that in the description but let's break
down this video from The Outsiders perspective all right I remember early on I was just like
so nervous to do this to walk up to a stranger in a casino in Las Vegas and say hey I think
you're interesting I'd like to photograph you that was the first one I did and then
by the end I was like I remember I wanted to photograph the Hells Angels uh motorcycle gang
up in uh Oakland is like their main headquarters and I just flew up to Oakland you can't really
arrange that you can't call him up on the phone and say Hey I want to do I'm a photographer in
L.A I want to photograph you guys that's just not going to happen so I uh I just flew up there
and I uh it was a morning and I ring their buzzer at their headquarters in Oakland and uh no answer
it's like 9 30 in the morning I ring it again nobody answers I ring it a third time and somebody
comes oh this this Junkyard Dog of a biker opens the doors what the fuck do you want then I'm like
I started telling him he just slams a door on my face he goes fuck off he just slams the door
okay that didn't go well so that's the first thing that you never want to do you never want to show
up to a 1%er Clubhouse just unannounced and nobody knows who you are like what he's talking about
right here and describing is like he's lucky that it worked out well for him because nine times out
of ten is not gonna work out well for you because some of these clubs will invite you to the event
and they don't even want you to have them in the pictures depending on what the situation is what
the politics that's going on at the moment so him just pulling up to the clubhouse it's crazy like
he's really you know he has a mission though this guy right here he's fearless and he has
a legacy that he's cementing with this type of Journalism so I respect that at the end of the
day but this isn't for everybody so much now that I'm so good at it that I knew to give him
some time allow him to say no I'm not going to force I'm not going to pressure him went across
the street there's a Mexican restaurant that was serving breakfast I got breakfast for a bunch of
guys and I brought it over and I bring it again he opens the door and I had breakfast for him
and uh eventually they let me in and we chatted and I eventually photographed the
the uh the president uh the head of that chapter Cisco Valderrama and Flash and this guy's name was
uh Marvin and it was a great portrait I'm proud of it it was like I made that happen because of my
ability to just go up to anybody Killers anybody and just walk up to him and say hey this is what
I like to do did you ever read Hunter Thompson's book on the Hells Angels no it's really good that
was his breakthrough book and uh he was embedded with the Hells Angels and hung around with them
for long periods of time no it's a hell of a lifestyle yeah you don't know much about the
Hunter s Thompson book but I know I seen something where he got like his ass kicked buy them I seen
um I seen an old interview where they were G checking him live like he was all nervous so
he wasn't really like in in like that you know what I mean like he wrote the book or whatever
but I think whatever he did was more on a business level let me know in the comments if you know if
he was really in with them like that or he just was in for the book it was more business because
the things that I have seen was more of them looking at him negative like in a negative light
I love that kind of um William volberg is another author that's kind of like that I love
Bill volberg's work um where it's just like you you immerse yourself into these really dangerous
situations yeah and you come out with gold or you get killed or shot so I definitely understand what
he's talking about and imagine how they would look at somebody like me he just went to 81's
clubhouse and asked to take some pictures I done sat down with the vagos t-rod I got the Outlaws
I was with the Mongols in in Vegas shout the Niner you know I got the footage up I think I'm
the only person with the the range of interviews of of bikers I don't think anybody has actually
sat there with you know some of the ogs we got a spike coming too from the Hessians MC and I still
got to do the sit down with Scott Jr Erickson of the Mongols so you know we're touching the
people you know we're sitting down with the real ogs the ones that paved the way for this culture
so Joe Rogan if you want somebody that really knows and been around everybody and still is
around everybody holla at me demonsrow@gmail.com this get it going let's make history that is a
fear of yours for sure yeah I've been robbed so many times on Skid Row I've had you know I
came around the corner once and there's a gun to my face and it's like but you still do it yeah
still there uh did you feel when you're doing average advertising is so strange right because
it doesn't bother me you know and I I have this sort of relaxed attitude on certain things like
well that's not gonna trick me you know some guy's talking about the hollow Earth well that's not
gonna trick me that doesn't bother me but when you think about the overall impact of what it's doing
it's giving people it's sort of like the the part of the big problem that people have with social
media is it creates these unrealistic expectations and then it also has people comparing their life
to what they see in advertising yeah they're advertising and social media are kind of probably
the same well this is the main concern with uh advertising of pharmaceutical drugs because
it's all people having the best time like at a picnic running through a wheat field and like
you this could be you why isn't this you right now this could be you if you just do this thing
or take this thing or buy this thing that's the manipulation of advertising and what did
that feel like when you were a part of that did you I'm acutely aware of it I'm part of it yeah
I'm part of the that process and I hated the feeling of that after a while initially it was
great when I first started doing Apple I was so proud of myself right and I'm still proud of my
career so I'm gonna cut it in because they start going into like a lot of other stuff they get off
the Hells Angels you know the whole topic of it let me know in the comments your first encounter
with an outlaw motorcycle club and I'm going to tell you mine's the first ever encounter that I
had was when I was in the 99 I was in The Click at the time and it was the unknown bikers in New
York we went to a big event in Coney Island and they were just they were just a force when they
came in everybody just knew like those are the big Bros right there like they just the
way they moved there was like people were just scattering you know it was it was the Red Sea
parted when these Bros came through shout to all the big Bros too shout to arson shout the
Too Short you know we all came up underneath these big Bros shout out to Tio Willy too
um out there in Florida you know but those are those were the big Bros you know and
um and my first encounter was one of respect and love but of like you know this is your these are
your big Bros you know and it made me want to sooner or later Elevate because you know
I came from the game world so I already had that mentality like I don't bow down to anybody but
there was a lot of older brothers in the unknown bikers so you could look up to them it wasn't like
a whole bunch of young dudes that you couldn't get behind it was a lot of solid OG's that you
know just looking at them you know looking in their eyes what they've been through how they
shake your hand and all that so that's why I say like we teach a lot of respect on this channel and
I know people try to down it but those are people outside the culture these people will never step
inside of unknown bikers Clubhouse these people will not function with the people that our culture
functions with so of course it's easy for them to jump in the comments and say some nonsense
because they don't have to stand on anything they say you know I feel like we're building something
in a space where people say whatever they want to say where we actually keep true to who we are in
real life and we talk to each other like we do in real life with respect and love and that's a
great thing because if you really look around the corniest people are saying whatever they
want to say online and there's not that respect and we've built that here we have like this has
turned into a real family like I see people all over in different coasts everywhere I move around
and it's the same respect that we all have for each other whether they're in a club or they're a
lone wolf or whatever the situation may be it's a lot of people's old ladies like it's just a great
vibe that we're creating and I just hope to keep expanding it and not be that negative you know
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