So you've been told how it happened in the house
and then at the site, what else did you learn from the tape?
I think the hardest part knowing our granddaughter
watched her sister die, and then begged for her life.
Yeah I don't know a much worse thing you can hear.
So you say it could be even worse, what could be worse?
Jamming their bodies in a eight-inch hole,
I couldn't, I mean, Dr. Phil, what could be worse?
I just pray to got in heaven that they were literally dead,
I don't even think their bodies were cold enough
to get in the oil, I think they were still warm.
So yeah, it's pretty sicK. It's instant.
Sometimes I think, how could he seriously think
he could get away with it?
And the only thing I kept thinking was, as a mom,
is did he always play like he was always a good boy
and then had a dark side?
I don't think he snapped because didn't he call everybody
the day before at his job and tell them,
don't go to that site, I got it?
And how cool he was right after when the cops came,
he had no, nothing, didn't look sad, worried, nothing.
Gave three interviews willingly, when I told him
I wouldn't do that if I were you, but hey.
When he first came into your life and came into
Shanann's life, he wasn't a problem at that point.
No, he was amazing. This was a positive thing.
Yeah, he was a good dude.
You liked him, you thought he was a good guy?
Yeah.
Was he hiding all of this at the time
or did something happen to change him across time?
I think him cheating is what changed his own mind.
I think that's what turned everything,
someone got into his head and manipulated him
and told him that, hey, I don't want a guy
that's already got kids and a wife, I want to start fresh
with someone that doesn't have all this
and I think got through his head and.
Well maybe it was, like you said, Frankie,
about the sex, but also, what, four or five times a day
with her. That's besides, that's just.
And looking at porn and googling my daughter
before she died.
But you get a divorce, right?
He wanted a new life, he didn't want all that.
So he wanted a new life, so he took away your life.
And his family's life, yes. Selfish, very selfish.
Was there a time before this that you recognized
that Shanann was in danger? Never.
When she was in North Carolina visiting,
we noticed he was being real cold.
I mean. But still,
never would have thought. But never, you know,
he was too nice of a guy to just do all that damage.
When she went missing, we still didn't think he did it,
until we saw that interview.
When you saw the interview of him standing
in the driveway. I wanted to fly there
immediately. That triggered you.
Oh yeah, lies. You saw what I said.
Him laughing and giggling. You saw what I said
about that interview, was duping delight, and all of that.
I mean, to me.
Keeping his arms crossed and swaying.
Yeah, it was pretty clear to me that he had done something
horrible at that point.
You knew right then. I knew, I knew that morning.
But once we knew that all the doors were locked
from the inside out, the only way in or out was the garage,
but we still didn't think that he would do something
like that, you know, we thought maybe he put them somewhere.
We had, that was the last thing that entered our minds.
I called 17 times that morning, I called everybody,
the school, Chris, my daughter, the neighbor,
called everybody.
Was there any time that you believed him?
No. Not at all.
Never. Never believed him.
The first time you talked to him.
Because we found out he backed the truck up.
As soon as I found out he backed his truck up
into the driveway, I knew.
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