Meghan McCain is very,
very offended, very upset over the
political speech of a United States
athlete and Olympian.
So she's specifically talking about
the story that we covered earlier,
Gwen Berry protesting the American
flag after she had third place in
the hammer throw competition.
Qualifying her for
the Tokyo Olympics.
Now since she also draped a shirt
that said activist athlete during
the flag ceremony.
Meghan McCain is upset about
that as well.
So let's hear what her argument is,
maybe she has a good
argument who knows.
>> I spent the last year and
a half, hearing every argument
possible and
understanding why athletes protest
in the United States of America
like Colin Kaepernick.
The problem I have is this woman is
doing this internationally and
if anyone just saw Vladimir Putin's
recent speech when he
met with President Biden,
he's using the propaganda that
America is an irredeemable crap
hole against us saying you think
your country's so great over there?
Look at Vlm look at everything
that's happening in your country.
You don't even treat your
people correctly.
I don't understand why we all can't
have shared experiences
in this space or
have our own stories because for
some reason my relationship with
the flag isn't allowed anymore.
So excuse me if I don't think some
of these athletes are representing
America in the same way and for
some of us, I will die for this.
I will die on this hill.
It is not appropriate or
patriotic to go to a foreign
country where you're supposed to be
representing America and
act like it's just about you.
It's not about you.
It's about all of us.
>> Who told Meghan McCain that
she's not allowed to enjoy the flag
or salute the flag or represent the
flag like, literally no one cares
Meghan McCain can wear a massive
flag ball gown and do you bow?
Do you bow?
We're just asking for similar
treatment for others who might feel
a little uncomfortable celebrating
the current situation that
they're experiencing in America,
especially black athletes, who have
been told to shut their mouths as
they're experiencing their friends,
their neighbors, their family
members get gunned down by police.
And then they get the response from
white people like Meghan McCain who
say, No,
that was totally justified.
That was okay.
Yeah, that 12 year old was playing
with a toy gun at the park who got
shot within two seconds of a cop
showing up to the park.
That was okay.
Yeah, that black guy who was
running away from the cop he
got shot in the back several times.
That was okay.
I would argue that if I don't know
someone in Meghan McCain's family
who experienced similar treatment
received the same injustice,
they would have a problem with
certain issues in America.
Like they would
maybe want to protest those issues.
But you know for Meghan McCain and
conservatives like her.
They want to do whatever they want.
They like to practice their first
amendment rights and their speech.
They certainly don't want
others who have a different point
of view doing the same.
So if she finds it embarrassing
that an athlete is calling
attention to a very real problem in
America maybe focus on fixing
the problem in America rather than
sharing your ridiculous
hyperventilating commentary on
the athlete herself.
>> Yes.
So when Tommy Smith and
John Carlos did the protest in 1968
Olympics Well,
that was in the Olympics and it was
in front of an international stage.
At the time, people hated him for
it and they said, how dare you and
they've got a similar treatment
as granberry.
Now we consider them heroes, but
we learn nothing from it.
And so we now Granberry when Barry
and we yell at Colin Kaepernick,
of course we don't but the likes of
Meghan McCain do and they do
like How dare they see the same
movie played over and over again.
So she says she used curious word
for it.
Like, my relationship with the flag
isn't allowed.
Like Anna said,
who's not allowing you?
Certainly the government says do
whatever you want with the flag,
You have any relationship
you're like.
And then if you think people
are criticizing your social media,
I think they're criticizing you for
trying to blog what Grand Berry is
trying to do not because they think
you're not allowed to like
the flag.
But even if they did think that who
cares is Randos, or it's out
of their speech like you have your
speech, even if you found two or
three people who said I will not
allow Meghan McCain to have
a relationship with the American
flag or a specific relationship
she wants with the flag.
Okay, that's what they think, and
you think something else is
called America, ironically.
Now, we let you think whatever you
want about America and the flag,
and the national anthem, and
honestly, we don't care.
And I have my own opinions and
they're not making the case and
by the way,
they're not going berries.
But we think it's okay for
everybody to have those opinions.
But the right wing always has free
speech for
us canceled culture for you.
Get her out of the Olympics.
Get her out.
I think he has a culture is so
bad she doesn't agree with me
get around.
I don't know she competed she won
on her own merits.
I don't care.
This is the hill all die.
>> It's the hill you'll die on
Megan because you are.
I mean, like let's bring in
some class analysis here because I
think that's an important part
of the story.
For Megan McCain disrespecting the
flag is the most important issue,
because Meghan McCain doesn't have
to worry about her next meal.
Meghan McCain doesn't have to worry
about losing her home if she gets
fired.
Meghan McCain doesn't have to worry
about any of her material needs as
long as she lives.
And neither do her children and
neither do her children's children.
They might need to worry about
climate change,
but being this disturbed over
someone protesting the flag I would
argue is an incredibly privileged
position.
because normal people first of all
don't care about what Meghan McCain
is doing with the flag.
Normal people I would argue even
though this is like become a huge
national conversation what
when Barry did It's because
it's a media fueled outrage cycle.
I would argue and I could be wrong,
but I would argue that ordinary
Americans right now are trying to
figure out what they're going to
do to pay their rent at
the end of the month.
It's just like, I can't even fathom
being that disturbed by an athlete
or anyone calling attention to
an actual problem in America
by protesting the flag.
>> Yeah, and under the her logic
she says, well, Putin can use this
as a as propaganda.
Yes.
I think I'm pretty clear on
the record what I think of
Vladimir Putin.
We're not Bffs to say the least go
ask anyone online.
But I don't give a damn what Putin
thinks our problems are and what
he's going to exam for propaganda.
So what are we not allowed to fix
any problems in America in
case Putin is going to use
it as propaganda?
Are we not allowed to fix
the building codes in Miami because
put my criticizes for it.
Who cares what Putin makes
about that?
I don't care at all.
So but because some other random
authoritarian figure is going to
attack America ideologically or
rhetorically we're supposed to not
fix America but
that's that makes no sense at all.
>> But that's what when I bring in
like the class analysis because for
Megan McCain, everything is great
>> Like Meghan McCain is the same
person who was like,
my god like I think that maternity
leave is like ridiculous like we
don't need maternity leave.
And then she had a baby and
she's like, my God like maternity
leave is super important.
I had to experience it firsthand
like giving birth to a child.
Like I had to experience it before
I realised that it's important.
So like, that's the thing with
Meghan McCain, she's an insanely
privileged person where all of
these issues don't touch her.
And unless they touch her, she
won't find them serious problems.
She won't think that
they need to be fixed and in fact,
she will honestly say degrading
things about people who actually do
want to fix those issues.
>> Yeah, so
she said that what Gwen Berry did
was not appropriate or patriotic.
Yeah, but
why do we care what your opinion on
her political protest is?
I think it's perfectly appropriate
because political protest is at
the very core of America.
If you love America, and I do,
one of the reasons I love America
is because we can protest and
we have freedom of speech and
freedom of the press, and that and
someone who wants to do a political
protest at an important point where
you might notice it.
Like in the middle of the Olympics,
or in the middle of an NFL game.
That's the reason we talk about it,
is because they did it in a way
that got all of our attentions.
If they did it in their basement we
would have never known.
And then, we couldn't talk about
the important issues they're
trying to bring up.
That's why it's in
the United States Constitution.
You can ask for redress of
grievances from the government.
You can do we celebrate a political
protest in this country, and
Republicans believe that if it
affects them, but if it affects,
that's a black person doing it, no,
I don't find it appropriate.
You must bend down and for
salute that flag.
Now let's break that down
a little bit.
Now why do I love America?
Well, I don't think America
is perfect.
I think America had tonnes
of problems in the past.
I think it has tonnes of problems
now, and I want to make it a more
perfect union and I want to
help solve those problems.
First thing as you pointed out, and
then you try to solve it, but
has this country been great to me?
Well, in some ways,
it's been discriminatory, but
in other ways, it's been wonderful.
It's been amazing and
I'm super glad we came to America.
But that's my experience.
Now, >> Why can't we just have
shared experiences Jank?
>> Okay, sure, great.
Stop killing unarmed black people.
And then we'll have a shared
experience, stop redlining, and
we'll have a shared experience,
stop blaming black people for
everything and
stop discriminating against them.
And then we'll have a shared
experience when we have equal
rights and we have justice.
And when someone says, hey,
we don't have equal rights,
that I don't think you appropriate
are patriotic.
So now we're going to ask
African Americans who have been
brutalized by this country.
Guys are like, they're like,
we've got to protect history.
That's why we have to
have the Confederate monuments up
everywhere.
And we celebrate them by doing
giant statues of them because
we care so much about history.
Okay, well how about pointing out
the vicious racism and slavery and
discrimination and beatings
of lynchings systemic racism
against African Americans that are
indisputably part of our history.
No, no, we're against history.
We should cancel that.
Make sure they don't teach it in
the schools.
High school or college or
anywhere because we don't find
history appropriate.
I mean make up your goddamn minds.
No.
America is a country that is
complicated as all countries are.
It has good sides, bad sides.
It has terrible parts of
his history.
It has wonderful parts
of its history.
The Marshall Plan was up amazing,
but I'm not going to go tell
an African American.
You must love this country
after everything I did to your
grandparents, your parents, you,
all of your ancestors,
no you should enjoy that.
Okay, you should celebrate that
now they're not going to celebrate
lynchings they're not going to do
it Megan, no matter how much you
want them to, they're not going to
say yes, I salute everything that
America did, and they've got every
right as Americans to do that.
And by the way, they're as usual,
totally misrepresenting her to say
I hate this country.
>> She never said that [CROSSTALK].
>> She said they're putting words
in my mouth.
I'm doing a protest about how black
people are being treated in this
country right now.
And that's exactly what
Colin Kapernick did.
It's not against the military.
It's not against America.
They don't hate America.
They're trying to help make America
better by bringing equality and
justice to America.
Honestly, there's literally nothing
you could do that would be more
American than that, but
Megan does not approve.
It is not appropriate and
it is not patriotic.
So this is the hill she'll die on
canceling Gwen Barry.
>> I mean look, if she's, very
concerned about Putin's statements
in regard to the United States,
maybe direct your anger toward
right wingers like Tucker Carlson,
who literally played a video of
Putin attacking the United States
and then agreeing with him.
Like that's what he
did in the segment.
>> Yeah, of course.
So I mean, if you don't want to
feel embarrassed about America on
an international stage maybe change
the embarrassing things that
are happening in America,
because whether Gwen Berry does
that protest or not, they're like
internationally, people see what's
happening within our borders.
You think that other countries
don't focus at all on US politics.
They know, they know and
honestly that is embarrassing.
It's embarrassing for us to do the
things we do on a world stage on
a regular basis and then deny that
we have the problems that we do.
And pretend like we're the greatest
country in the world.
No, like,
when I don't love something,
you know what I do?
I ignore it.
I love this country, which is why
I want it to improve and I want it
to be a great place for everyone.
>> Yeah.
>> But, >> So last few things here.
They look at,
what America has done, for example,
in foreign policy.
And now America did something
wonderful with the Marshall Plan.
And America did something terrible
with all the cues that we did
in Latin America and in Africa and
other places.
They go okay don't talk about
the terrible things that
we did just love the country.
But if I love the country,
I wanted to do more of the good
stuff like the Marshall Plan and
less bad stuff like the coups so
people don't hate us, etc.
So am I allowed to point that out?
Hey, why don't we do the good
things instead of
the bad things, no.
Shut it down.
Remember, we're in favour
of freedom of speech unless
it's your speech.
And then finally I
knew a guy from El Salvador.
And he was furious with America now
why he's an American citizen now,
but his family's from El Salvador
because we ripped El Salvador
apart.
And what Reagan did to El Salvador
when America did El Salvador was
unconscionable.
Now, the mega McCain's of the world
will say no, you must love America.
But wait a minute,
they killed my family.
They were perfectly innocent.
They killed my family.
No, you must love them.
It's beyond absurd.
And what it is at its core is
entitlement.
You must agree with me no matter
what happened to you, because I
don't really care about you.
The only opinion
that's allowed is mine.