Donald Trump might be looking at a bit of a problem inside of his own party and
inside his quest to once again become the president.
Because of course, first he does have to win a primary contest and
that might be a little bit more difficult than he's thinking.
Now, what we're about to dive into is a New York times Sienna College poll.
Bear in mind, they've been doing other polling, for instance, that we talked
about earlier this week about how so many democrats don't want Biden to run again.
They want to go in a different direction.
And that may be from the outside makes the Democrats look bad from the point of view
of Republicans, but it's kind of a similar thing going on right now.
Nearly half the party's primary voters are seeking someone different for president in
2024 and a significant number of vowing to abandon him if he does win the nomination.
Now this is not apocalyptic for him.
But let's dive into the numbers.
You can see here, if the primary were held today, who would they rather vote for now?
As of right now, Donald Trump still has 49% of the vote, not a majority, but
he does have the plurality.
Ron DeSantis is at a solid quarter of the party and in previous stories,
we've shown you that number is rising fast.
He was not nearly that high just one year ago.
You can also see that if you break it down by gender, it's not a massive difference
between the two, but very interestingly, when you break down these republican
voters talking about who they want in the primary along educational lines.
There's a huge difference.
When you just look at people without a bachelor's degree,
Donald Trump's got 58% Ron DeSantis is 21%.
But when you talk about college graduates or
higher Ron DeSantis actually has more support than Donald trump.
That is so interesting.
We're gonna get into tomorrow how this shakes out on the democratic side.
But Brett the fact that Donald trump who once enthusiastically screamed
that he loves the uneducated.
He is apparently much more popular amongst those who haven't finished
college than Ron DeSantis is the republicans right now.
>> Get out of politics if you don't understand why Ron DeSantis is more
popular with college educated republicans.
Get out >> Why, but why?
>> Because they got money?
And they're like that's all I want.
That's the Republican I'm used to, that's the one who knows
exactly how to message to the D bag morons but still will cater to me.
>> Yeah, but hold on, let me challenge you there because he is catering to,
as you say, the D bag morons.
So then why aren't they better catered to if they've been,
if someone's been passing around a silver dish that's got like transphobia and
CRT and stuff like that, then why aren't they gorging on it?
Or do you think that that's just a process that we're in the middle phases of
>> What are you talking us?
>> Why aren't those without a bachelor's degree more enthusiastic about him
considering that he is very much trying to appeal to those people with the culture or
stuff that he's been focusing on for more than a year now.
>> What would you rather have, John coca cola, classic or new coke?
You want coca cola classic Trump is the real thing.
He is the one who got them to the dance.
He's the one that if you are the dumbest human, you think like genuinely awesome.
But if you are a classic republican, someone who knows that
it's all just signaling free nothingness to religious and
hateful fundamentalist zealots.
Ron DeSantis turns around and behind the scenes is like, all right,
here's how we're going to run a state.
He's like an executive who runs a state that they love because there's
no personal income tax and that the rich people want to be done with this already.
They're praying to their re their God which is money and hoping the people
that pray to Jesus God and while giving money to people like them will
finally come over to DeSantis cuz they know DeSantis is closer to that thing.
They're familiar with, the person who's like, okay, yeah,
I to think that they're too woke or whatever I'm supposed to say at this time.
The guy who did a whole ad be like, I love Donald Trump too and
every step of the way has been systematically positioning himself
intelligently to be the next step that's more palatable to the donor class
of rich schmucks on the coast who pretend that they hate living in the states.
They'll never leave.
>> Exactly, yeah, 100%.
And I agree with everything.
So I wasn't owned commenters, he didn't own me there.
But anyway, yeah, and look, I think what you described as a strategy
to get elected is also, it's in line with why we maybe feel free to disagree
with me would maybe prefer Donald trump as the candidate over Ron DeSantis.
Because in office,
Ron DeSantis might not have as insane goals as Donald Trump, but he almost
certainly would be more likely to achieve the goals that he actually set out to
achieve because he would be in line with those groups that you just identified.
Whereas Donald trump continually undercuts the things that he wants to do which
are slapdash and sometimes nonexistent with all the nonsensical scandals,
he gets himself involved in all of that.
>> Right >> By the way
>> Donald Trump's typically to
incompetence.
I'm still mad at me right now.
>> Am not mad at you >> He's too incompetent to execute on
the things that DeSantis is competent enough to cut the donors,
that's it >> Sure, It's really fast.
I wanna end with checking in with a couple of other things because you bring up this
chart, Let's let's bring it up again and
you focus on the Donald Trump of the Ron DeSantis, understandably.
So, but there are of course other names there.
So, if you're Ted Cruz, what do you think about this?
We're a bit out, it's like a year from now.
They'd probably be announcing maybe maybe less, maybe 6 months or so and
you're at 7% he's been at lower in some polls,
it's pretty consistent, but he's now been eclipsed hardly by Ron DeSantis.
Do you think that Ted Cruz is reading the room and that's it for
his aspirations or what do you think?
>> Cruz Eakins will deny until the moment he dies that he's an NPC [LAUGH].
He's just this guy who's like, my gosh, he thinks he's like the mouthpiece and
this strong firebrand and next in line, but you already lost to Trump,
you already lost the actual showman, you lost a peak.
Like your son of a preacher man affect,
they will never like you because your name is Cruz, hate to break it to you.
Like they're never gonna get behind you.
>> I think, look, I think he could, it's just that he's the worst like,
and I don't just mean, he's a Republican.
No, they're all the worst for that reason.
I mean even amongst them, he's kind of cringing and
he's kind of stupid and he kind of always looks like a fool and
he's just not the sort of person that they wanna get behind.
>> Yeah >> For that reason.
>> He's been cocked harder to use the colloquialism than DeSantis
has even gotten close to and that's why people don't respect him.
>> Yeah, and look maybe DeSantis will end up being a Cruz and
sort of figure if this does go to a contested,
probably brutal primary I don't know that that's likely to happen.
And by the way if it doesn't happen that's probably gonna hurt Trump.
Like trump does not want six republicans running against him but
it helped him last time that it kept the attention of the nation focused on it.
So again it's always, it's the budding up of what he wants for himself and
what actually would probably be better for him in achieving his evil goals.
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