welcome to 60 days insider i'm dan abrams
tonight we're taking an in-depth look at our day's two participants lives
inside the clark county jail as they try to survive 60 days in i'm going to end
up just taking somebody's school and just going crazy and i'm probably never leaving
we're here with sheriff noel captain maples and zach and tammy former participants from phase one
chris is the first participant to leave the program in this phase what are your
thoughts about him leaving he had a rough time he obviously was physically ill he was vomiting
and i don't know what caused that if it was anxiety of being in jail
i think honestly it's probably pretty real experience that anybody would experience
when they went in zach were you surprised that chris was effectively throwing in the towel
literally so quickly i'm not really that surprised because he was as sick as he was
and feeling as badly as he was you know it's it's something that's tough for anybody to deal with
sorry that he's gone i just wish i could have got more feedback than what i got chris from
a look standpoint was like you got the look now and he seemed to have the cover story down
it's actually a pretty big shock that he didn't make it past classifications tammy things seem to
be really picking up steam in a bad way in f-pod is this similar to some of the stuff that you saw
the all-night party atmosphere i likened it to a sorority
sleep all day be awake all night it has a lot to do with
um some of the girls are still detoxing sharing meds with one another in there
it's a difficult time what was your strategy to avoid getting hazed
i had an incident from right off the bat where my shower shoes were taken by
somebody
i simply put it out there i'm not gonna let you do this to me and that set the tone in the pot
you have to be assertive
ashley had some hazing occurred to her early on i mean really
do you like girls hard for you to watch that yeah definitely i would have traded
places with ashley in a heartbeat if drugs are available and i'm an addict and i have all the
time in the world on my hands what better way to spend my time than to just go and do the drugs
but at the same time i know how strong and how determined ashley is i mean she quit cold turkey
so i didn't question her strength to say no to that what i was worried about more was
her having to deal with all the other things that just bombard you mentally
all right zach we're seeing some serious hazing going on of brian here
the only way to get out of this is to turn it into something physical
if you put your hands on somebody they have the right to defend themselves
then putting their hands on them absolutely gave him the right to defend himself that's
taking it to the point of sexual assault i think just the fact that he did nothing made it worse
i think that kind of worked against him by not by not doing anything at all i think in the future
we're going to make it a rule that we only bring inmates into the from classification to the pod
in groups is this change you're talking about a direct result of seeing the previous episode
absolutely what happened to brian absolutely he doesn't fit in with the normal inmates he's not
somebody who's been in and out of jail his whole life he's used to
normal social behavior and that's not what you're getting in jail
you think that was bad like somebody goes to sleep in normal civilian world if somebody new
walked into a room you're not going to go over and start touching their face and feeling on them
it just doesn't happen you revert to a juvenile mentality when you go into a pot
do you think that he was a bad choice not at all when a pod boss starts with the hazing of you
everybody else is going to join in if if dafron hadn't keyed on him if somebody else had keyed on
him they probably wouldn't have gone anywhere near as far as it went but because it was daphron and
since he's one of the you know one of the major players in that pod it went to a whole new level
that it wouldn't have gone to otherwise so we've been talking about the horrible situation that
brian has been in dion on the other hand has had the exact opposite experience dion can pretty much
talk to anybody we gave dion a more in-depth cover story with some pretty serious charges
because we believe that he could maintain it if you watch the way he presents it he just gives a
little bit of information at a time without having to try to explain it that's why he's doing so well
that's where they put me over i thought i was gonna get less speed
well you hear dion when he talks about it he kind of like a typical inmate would
it was just a simple traffic stop speed and next time i know i'm going to jail
it's like he blended it well it was all in how he carried himself and he created himself well
zach do you think the fact that dion has started off so strong is going to make him more capable of
getting good information absolutely he's he's blending in incredibly well right off the bat
so he's already being accepted at a level that would take somebody else week or two to get to
he's got the potential to gather a lot of valuable information how important is the first moment when
you walk into the pod as soon as you walk through the door everybody's sizing you up you got to walk
through with your head high not cocky but with the strength about yourself that hey
you don't want to mess with me and tammy it's not even about physical size as much as it is about
an attitude right i can attest to that and being the size that i am and going in there
with much larger um individuals i mean in the women's pod people think that it's different
but it's certainly not because it is all about carrying yourself with an attitude
well let me just ask you whose journey are you most looking forward to see playing out here you
know zack i kind of want to see how your wife does i do just knowing she's trying to deal with her
own sobriety while helping other people i hope she can get in and help bring about change and help
these other girls out without falling down herself well one of the other women there is cherie
if it's about if somebody's hollering they won't come up here and whoop everybody's ass
okay captain are you concerned that she's reaching a breaking point yes as you see she
was arguing with inmates and it was almost as she she kind of picked the fight and
with that being said she was placing there for a reason with a cover story and it seems that they
finally got into her and it worries me that she's letting them get to her too much you