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Hey guys, what's going on?
It's Alex from Fitment Industries @ Alex.fi.
And on this episode of So You Want, we're here to talk
about you wanting to stance your car.
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This is just like one of those, one of those things.
It's one of those things that just make you go, "Hmm".
Stancing or just getting proper fitment on your car is
quite the challenge we see quite often.
If you can believe it, that sometimes understanding the
complexity of getting proper fitment is more than just
running those 18 by eight and a half plus 35's.
You may laugh,
but we were all there once, okay?
And you can't, you can't judge, you were there, I remember.
I remember when you were 16, don't tell me for a second when
you were 16 years-old you thought you had it on-lock.
'Cause I know you didn't.
(inhales deep)
Unless your dad was super into 'em in which case you
never made a mistake.
Stancing you car has gotten properly popular.
After all, we used to take ages of form research,
measuring and guessing.
And now become even easier with the birth of YouTube.
(cheers)
So you want to stance your car.
Well buckle up because here are some things you're
gonna want to know and/or think about as you go through
the lovely process of making your car more
difficult to daily drive.
(car revving) (undercarriage scraping)
But damn does it look so good!
So, first thing's first.
Getting proper fitment, especially what we would call
stance, is a process.
It's extremely difficult to nail the look you may want
right off the bat.
Because you don't actually really know what you really,
really, really want until you start diving in.
They may get the wheels and realize that a MIDI
setup is better because that setup just looks dope
on EVO X's and if you've got a MINI setup..
Yes, hell yeah brother.
As your going through the process of getting that
proper fitment or stance.
The next thing to know is if your doing it
off media stance fitment builds.
You're gonna want to measure about 10 times and buy once.
It's too often, too damn often.
That individuals measure once, then a second time,
get a different number than the first time and their like,
"Oh, it's gotta be the second one".
And it's not what I would do.
It's not what we would recommend.
You see, champs, getting that proper fitment,
is a matter of millimeters for the car scene.
Now, the truck scene, its like, "Send her on 22's by 12's
"and let them suckers stick out like six inches because
"who cares, if it's a negative 77, a negative 81, a negative
"102, whatever it is, it don't really matter,
"it's just gonna poke a little bit more."
You see, in car language it's the difference.
And you can have two degrees on a static set of a camber,
and your gonna have it really locked in.
But everything is a math problem, and if your not good
at math, you're probably gonna fail stance class.
You're gonna wanna measure over and over and over until
you have your numbers dialed in.
Especially before picking up your preferred wheels.
In a perfect world, your wheels, suspension components,
and as a fail safe, your camber should allow you to dial
in the wheel perfectly and without spacers.
But it's not a perfect world, is it bud?
Three millimeters spacers are going to become an extremely
common purchase for the first few times you do a full
proper fitment setup.
Now, there's nothing wrong with spacers.
It's just one of those things that as you go into
measuring you'll learn better and better
over more and more time.
When you do go into proper fitment though,
there are suspension options of going static
or using air suspensions.
Now, both have their pros and cons, you can pick up
on both at FitmentIndustries.com.
Static looks killer all the time,
but makes it painfully difficult to drive.
Ask us how we know.
And air allows you to drive your car low
without sacrificing much.
But also it has more parts which means more things can
be prone to breaking and if you live in any
other state besides California,
because apparently California has lovely weather
all the time, you have to deal with rust and salt
and grime and things like that.
When delving into proper fitment, you got to be dedicated.
If you go static, like truly dedicated.
And allow me to put you through a quiz
to determine if you're dedicated enough.
Welcome to Alex's Stance Class, here's question one.
When you talk to your friend and you say, "Hey, I wanna
"start going to the gym three times a week."
Do you; A: Go three times a week.
B: Go one time a week.
C: Don't go at all.
Or D: Go seven times a week.
Now, if you answered anything.
If you even hesitated about answering anything besides D,
you'll probably not want to go static.
Because it's a commitment to the game that is
tough to handle if you want to enjoy your car more than
just once in a while.
It's not like a selective love, you don't get to,
like, just somewhat love it some what of the time.
'Cause once you have it set up, you're there bud,
and it's gonna be there for a long time.
Since your car also takes into account plenty
of other variables.
Tire stretching, spring ray, preload, camber, even
your tow, wheel specs and more.
But one section that people have a tendency to forget
about would be your bushings and your control arms.
Those can help a ton in terms of precise measurement
to help dial in your suspensions at movement,
at bumps, at everything in between so that you're not
running around on something that looks good
when it's not moving, but is ultimately failing
when the car's actually running.
Every time you dial in your suspensions and your other
components, the tighter your fitment and stance will become
and if we add any ques, it's to go for knowing as much
about suspension as possible.
A lot of times people's go-to for making
wide wheels fit is camber angle.
But with proper knowledge, fabrications, some risks,
and a little bit of love, you can dial in proper fitment
without having to go a la camber.
That's one of the biggest misconceptions when we talk
about anybody wanting to get stance out of their car.
Your gonna wanna grab a sawzall, look at that inner
plastic liner dead in the eyeballs, and say to yourself,
"We don't need this."
You just, you don't, just cut out the little thing.
You can heat it up with a little heat gun
and just press it forward with your shoe,
you're gonna be fine.
So you want to stance your car, sweet.
It's more than just going a la camber and calling everyone
hater when they call out your shattered fender.
It is an art, stance can be a MIDI proper setup that
leaves little-to-no wheel gap for the track.
Or it can be dialing in 12 wides on an
over-fender static car.
There's different types of fitments, stance is just
is probably one of the most common.
But I think that everything can have a little bit of stance,
you know what I'm saying?
A little bit of (smacks lips).
Little bit of ravioli on that pasta.
Either way, stancing a car is somewhat like a good steak.
Most can do it with basic lauries, a grill and a flipper.
But to make a steak, people remember,
you gotta know, you gotta go the extra mile.
You gotta go with the seasoning, the meat, the temperature.
You gotta put that on the tinfoil, you do.
Six minutes on both sides and then you do
five minutes of rest in the tinfoil with the potatoes.
Then you let it sit out on the plate, switch plates
so you don't get to much blood on there.
'Cause medium rare is the way to eat it.
But anyway, enjoy the ride, know the potential consequences,
and send it once you have the information you make a
decision on how you want your setup to properly look.
And if your still on the fence of what you want to do
for your real entire choice.
Well come on over to our online gallery.
You can see about a million cars that have after market
wheels, tires, and suspension setups.
That's pretty much what we do here, it's like a thing.
So if you haven't caught on yet, be sure to subscribe
and hit the little bell button because this is the
stuff that we kind of talk about.
You can actually put in your year, make, and model.
Figure out what you want, what you want bud.
It's like the best way, you can see menus of all kinds.
So you never have to worry about making a mistake.
But anyway, I'm Alex from Fitment Industries,
don't forget to subscribe.
Head over to FitmentIndustries.com.
You can add your car.
If you got an after market car, anyway.
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I'm Alex, we will see you later, peace.
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