QUOTABLES. WILL HIM
>> Martha: BREAKING RIGHT NOW, PRESIDENT TRUMP CLEANING HOUSE
AFTER BEING ACQUITTED THIS WEEK
ON BOTH ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT.
THE PRESIDENT APPEARS TO HAVE
DECIDED TO LET GO SEVERAL OF THE
PEOPLE INVOLVED.
PEOPLE INVOLVED. INCLUDING LIEUTENANT COLONEL
ALEXANDER OFFENDED MEN, THE
DEMOCRATS STAR WITNESS WAS
ESCORTED WHITE HOUSE
GROUNDS TODAY.
GROUNDS TODAY. HIS TWIN BROTHER WHO WORKED AT
THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL AS
WELL ALSO OUT OF A JOB TONIGHT.
AND JUST MOMENTS AGO, WORRIED
THAT U.S. AMBASSADOR GORDON
SONDLAND REVEALED THAT HE’S BEEN
RECALLED FROM HIS POST AS
AMBASSADOR TO THE E.U.
REMEMBER HIS ROLE IN ALL OF
THIS?
THIS? >> I KNOW MEMBERS OF THIS
COMMITTEE FREQUENTLY FRAME THESE
COLLOCATED ISSUES IN THE FORM OF
A SIMPLE QUESTION.
WAS THERE A QUID PRO QUO?
AS I TESTIFIED PREVIOUSLY WITH
REGARD TO THE REQUESTED
WHITE HOUSE CALL IN THE
WHITE HOUSE MEETING, THE ANSWER
IS YES.
IS YES. >> Martha: JOINED ME NOW IS
REPUBLICAN CONGRESS AND MATT
GAETZ.
GAETZ. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
I MEAN, THAT WAS DEFINITELY ONE
OF THE BIGGEST MOMENTS WHEN
GORDON SONDLAND SAID, YES, WHEN
HE SAW THE EXCHANGE IN THE
MEETING OF THE INVESTIGATION OF
THE QUID PRO QUO.
TONIGHT, HE’S OUT OF A JOB.
YOUR THOUGHTS?
YOUR THOUGHTS? >> HE SAW IT THAT WAY.
THAT WAS LARGELY A PRESUMPTION
BUT IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATIONS
UNDOUBTEDLY CREATE SECOND AND
THIRD ORDER EFFECTS, WE ALL KNOW
A LOT MORE ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN IF
NANCY PELOSI AND ADAM SCHIFF DID
NOT START THIS INVESTIGATION.
WE KNOW MORE ABOUT GORDON
SONDLAND AND WE LEARNED MORE
ABOUT COLONEL VINDMAN.
TIM MORRISON, WHO WAS A SENIOR
OFFICIAL TO LIEUTENANT COLONEL
VINDMAN USED POOR JUDGMENT AND
COULD ENTRUST THE CONCLUSIONS HE
CAME TO.
CAME TO. THAT INFORMATION WAS TO A HIGHER
DEGREE BECAUSE OF IMPEACHMENT
AND IF YOU LOOK AT GORDON
SONDLAND, NO ONE REALLY VIEWED
HIM AS CENTRAL TO THE DELIVERY
OF U.S. POLICY.
I THINK WE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO
GET BY IN THE DELIVERY OF
UNITED STATES FOREIGN POLICY
ABSENT GORDON SONDLAND.
HE WAS VIEWED AS AN
INTER-METTLER AND HEARD PEOPLE
TALK ABOUT THE GORDON PROBLEM
WOULD EMERGE AS HE WAS OUTSIDE
THE NORMAL WORK OF AN E.U.
AMBASSADOR.
AMBASSADOR. THE PRESIDENT HAS THE AUTHORITY
TO REMOVE THESE FOLKS IF HE
CHOOSES TO.
CHOOSES TO. >> THE REASON THEY SAID THAT,
CONGRESSMAN, THEY WERE SURPRISED
HE WAS WORKING ON YOUR CRANE
POLICY BECAUSE HE WAS THE
AMBASSADOR TO THE E.U.
THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ASSIGNED TO
THE UKRAINE ISSUE WANTED TO KNOW
WHY GORDON SONDLAND WAS INVOLVED
IN IT AT ALL AND IT TURNED OUT,
YOU KNOW, HE WAS WORKING WITH
RICK PERRY AND RUDY GIULIANI.
THAT’S WHY -- ISN’T THAT WHY
THEY REFERRED TO AS THE GORDON
PROBLEM?
PROBLEM? >> WELL, RIGHT.
THERE WAS CONTINUED LACK OF
CONFIDENCE IN HIS DIPLOMATIC
WORK THROUGHOUT THE DEPOSITIONS
AND HEARINGS.
AND HEARINGS. WHETHER THAT MEANT EXCEEDING THE
SCOPE OF HIS AUTHORITY OR
WHETHER IT MEANT JUST SORT OF
THE BUNDLING OF ASSIGNMENTS, I
DO NOT THINK HE CAME OUT OF THE
IMPEACHMENT LOOKING LIKE SOME
GREAT DIPLOMAT.
GREAT DIPLOMAT. I DO NOT THINK IT’S A SURPRISE
TO SEE THE PRESIDENT CHOOSE TO
MAKE A CHANGE THERE.
ALSO LIEUTENANT COLONEL
LIEUTENANT COLONEL BENJAMIN.
>> LIEUTENANT COLONEL VINDMAN’S
LAWYER SAID THAT HE SADDENED NOT
TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE COUNTRY
ANYMORE.
ANYMORE. HERE’S A QUICK SOUND BITE TO
REMIND EVERYBODY.
REMIND EVERYBODY. >> IT’S IMPROPER FOR THE
PRESIDENT OF UNITED STATES TO
DEMAND A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO
INVESTIGATE A U.S. CITIZEN AND
OPPONENTS.
OPPONENTS. THERE WAS PROBABLY AN ELEMENT OF
SHOCK, MAY BE IN CERTAIN
REGARDS.
REGARDS. MY WORST FEAR OF HOW THE UKRAINE
POLICY COULD PLAY OUT.
>> Martha: AND A LOT OF PEOPLE
LOOKED AT THAT.
PEOPLE TOOK A DIFFERENT WAYS.
THEY HAD SOME PRETTY DEEP POLICY
DIFFERENCES IN TERMS OF THE WAY
THAT THINGS SHOULD BE CARRIED
OUT WITH UKRAINE AND ALTHOUGH HE
EXPRESSED STATUS AT BEING PUSHED
OUT OF THE POSITION TONIGHT, YOU
WONDER WHY HE WOULD WORK FOR THE
PRESIDENT IF HE HAS SUCH DEEP
DISAGREEMENTS WITH HIM.
HE THOUGHT THE WAY HIS HANDLING
WAS WRONG.
WAS WRONG. >> MANY ERUPTIONS THAT GAVE RISE
TO THE IMPEACHMENT WERE ROOTED
IN POLICY DISAGREEMENT.
DIFFERENT APPROACH FROM A
DIFFERENT STYLE, AT TIMES A
DIFFERENT OUTCOME FOR VARIOUS
ELEMENTS OF THE UKRAINE POLICY.
I CAN’T IMAGINE THAT WE WOULD
OUTSIDE THE WORLD OF IMPEACHMENT
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY,
I THINK OF MENTEES AT THOSE
DIVISIONS MORE THAN IN THIS
IMPEACHMENT.
IMPEACHMENT. IN THIS WORLD, I THINK WE WERE
ABLE TO SEE DISAGREEMENTS,
PERHAPS SOME DISCORD BETWEEN
LIEUTENANT COLONEL ADMIN AND
OTHERS AT THE NSC WHO HELD A
DIFFERENT VIEW AND NOW WE ARE
MOVING FORWARD.
MOVING FORWARD. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES
THERE.
THERE. VERY WELL MAY BE THE CHASE DOWN
A CHANCE THAT VINDMAN WOULD BE
OUT BEFORE IMPEACHMENT BUT
DURING IMPEACHMENT YOU DON’T
WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE TO MAKE A
LIVING RETRIBUTION AND WITH A
LOT OF CHANGES AT THE NSC, IT’S
A LOT OF A BETTER CREW.
>> Martha: THE NEW HEAD OF THE
NSC, THE NATIONAL SECURITY
ADVISOR TO THE PRESIDENT, SAID
DAYS AGO THAT HE WANTED TO THIN
THE RANKS OF THE NSC
DRAMATICALLY AND THERE IS LONG
BEEN A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR
NOT EVERYBODY WHO WAS THERE,
SOME OF THE HOLDOVERS WERE
SUPPORTIVE OF THE POLICY OF THE
WHITE HOUSE, CORRECT?
>> THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF
CONCERNS THAT THE NSC MAY HAVE
EMANATED OTHER LEAKS.
OBVIOUSLY NEVER SOMETHING YOU
ARE ALWAYS ABLE TO TRACK DOWN
AND FULLY PROVEN EVIDENCE, BUT I
THINK YOU WANT A PRESIDENT, AND
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR TO
HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN THE NSC
IF FRESHENING UP THAT TEAM GOING
INTO THE NEW POST IMPEACHMENT
ERA IS HELPFUL TO THE COUNTRY,
I’M ALL FOR IT.
THE DELIVERY OF U.S. FOREIGN
POLICY IS GOING PRETTY WELL.
I’M SO PROUD OF THE PRESIDENT
TAKING OUT THE AL QAEDA LEADER
IN YEMEN.
IN YEMEN. THAT GROUP CLAIM THIS FOR
KILLING MIKE INTO