♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY,
WELCOME BACK TO "A LATE SHOW."
JOINING ME TONIGHT FROM ACROSS THE POND ARE THE ACADEMY AWARD
WINNING STAR OF "THE FAVOURITE" AND THE EMMY WINNING STAR OF
"THE X-FILES" AND "THE FALL."
THEY'RE CURRENTLY TEAMING UP FOR SEASON FOUR OF "THE CROWN" ON
NETFLIX.
>> IT MAY SURPRISE YOU TO LEARN I ENJOY PREDICTING MINISTERIAL
COMINGS AND GOINGS.
IT'S LIKE THE RACES: I LIKE TO STUDY ODDS, WHO'S IN, WHO IS
OUT.
MY BEST SO FAR WAS MR. WILSON'S SUCCESS RESHUFFLE.
I GOT 90%.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR MY PREDICTIONS FOR YOURS?
I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE WOMEN.
>> WOMEN?
>> IN CABINET.
>> OH, CERTAINLY NOT.
NOT JUST BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY SUITABLE CANDIDATES.
BUT I HAVE FOUND WOMEN IN GENERAL TEND NOT TO BE SUITED TO
HIGH OFFICE.
>> OH, WHY IS THAT?
WELL, THEY BOTTOM TOO EMOTIONAL.
>> I DOUBT YOU'LL HAVE THAT TROUBLE WITH ME.
>> Stephen: PLEASE WELCOME OLIVIA COLMAN AND GILLIAN
ANDERSON!
>> HELLO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
>> HI!
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
>> Stephen: I INTRODUCED YOU AS COMING FROM ACROSS THE POND.
ARE YOU IN THE U.K. RIGHT NOW?
WAS I CORRECT?
>> YES.
>> Stephen: SO HOW IS THE SECOND LOCKDOWN GOING?
I KNOW, SADLY, THE U.K. HAD TO LOCK DOWN AGAIN.
HOW ARE YOU SPENDING YOUR TIME?
>> WELL-- >> INDOORS.
>> YES.
>> Stephen: GOOD.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HAVING "THE CROWN" COME OUT RIGHT NOW
AS WE'RE ABOUT TO ENTER OUR WINTER OF OUR DISCONTENT HERE,
AS WE HAVE TO SORT OF LOCK DOWN A LITTLE BIT-- NOT OFFICIALLY,
BUT IT'S SPIKING IN THE UNITED STATES.
SO WE ALL NEED SOMETHING GOOD TO OCCUPY US WHILE WE'RE INDOORS.
AND I'M EXCITED, OLIVIA, THAT YOU'RE BACK AS QUEEN ELIZABETH
II.
GILLIAN, HERE YOU ARE.
>> THERE I AM.
>> Stephen: THAT HAIRSTYLE LOOKS LIKE IT COULD SURVIVE
REENTRY FROM LOW ORBIT.
BOTH OF YOU HAVE SUBSTANTIAL HAIRSTYLES.
>> MINE'S BIGGER THAN HERS.
( LAUGHTER ).
>> Stephen: BESIDES THE HAIR AND MAKEUP, GILLIAN, WERE THERE
PARTICULAR-- YOUR THATCHER IS EXTRAORDINARY.
ARE THERE CERTAIN PHYSICAL MANNERISMS THAT YOU PICKED UP
FROM HER THAT WERE HOOKS FOR YOU?
>> WELL, CERTAINLY, THE VOICE IS A BIG WEIGH-IN TO HER.
AND YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANT PHYSICALLY IN TERMS OF,
YOU KNOW, ADDING A WIG AND ADDING CLOTHES AND A-- YOU KNOW,
A SUIT.
I WORE A SUIT TO MAKE ME A BIT WIDER.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF YOU DON'T
REALLY HAVE THE VOICE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT ODD.
SO A GOOD WAY IN IS THE VOICE.
>> Stephen: WHAT'S THE SECRET TO HER VOICE?
WHAT'S THE SECRET TO THE THATCHER?
>> WELL, SHE USED-- SHE WAS VERY BREATHY.
AND SO-- AND HER PITCH WAS A BIT LOWER THAN MINE.
AND SO-- AND, ALSO, THE WAY WHEN I-- WHEN I GO INTO HER, THERE'S
A WAY OF HOLDING-- HOLDING THE TEETH OVER THE LOWER LIP JUST A
LITTLE BIT.
AND, GO ON, STEPHEN.
JUST BREATHING OUT.
BREATHING OUT.
>> Stephen: BREATHING OUT...
>> BREATHING OUT.
>> Stephen: I'M MARGARET THATCHER.
>> AND TAKING A DEEP BREATH AND DON'T LET SOMEBODY ELSE COME IN.
DON'T INTERRUPT ME.
I WON'T LET YOU INTERRUPT ME DISPLU SOUND LIKE MARGARET
THATCHER.
I SOUND LIKE THE CRYPT KEEPER.
>> YOU LOOK A LITTLE LIKE A DUMMY.
YOU LOOK A LITTLE LIKE SOMEBODY HAS THEIR HAND UP YOUR TROUSERS.
>> Stephen: THAT SOUNDS DELIGHTFUL.
OLIVIA, I HAVE SPOKEN TO SOME OF YOUR COSTARS ABOUT HOW THEY FIND
THE ROYAL VOICE AS OPPOSED TO, SORT OF A STANDARD RECEIVED
QUEEN'S ENGLISH.
THE QUEEN DOESN'T SPEAK THE RECEIVE'S QUEEN'S ENGLISH, DOES
SHE?
>> R.P., WE CALL "RECEIVED PRONUNCIATION" WHICH IS HOW I
SUPPOSE I SPEAK AND GILLIAN SPEAKS.
I DON'T KNOW.
I'M PROBABLY THE WORST PERSON TO INTERVIEW ABOUT THIS.
I TRIED TO PAY ATTENTION BUT I DON'T REALLY RETAIN INFORMATION.
BUT I THINK I'M SORT OF AVERAGE ENGLISH SOUNDING, BUT, YES, THE
ROYALS HAVE A WHOLE OTHER LEVEL OF...
SPEAKING.
>> Stephen: HOW WOULD-- >> FOR EXAMPLE, CAN I TEACH YOU
HOW TO SAY "YES?" >> Stephen: YES.
>> IN THE QUEEN'S ENGLISH.
SO IF YOU SAY-- THIS IS WHAT-- SO WILLIAM CONQUER, WHO WAS OUR
INCREDIBLE VOICE TEACHER, HE GAVE ALL OF US THIS LITTLE TRICK
WHEN WE STARTED, MAINLY JUST TO MAKE US LEAVE.
IF YOU SAY E-A-R-S.
>> Stephen: EARS.
>> YES.
>> Stephen: I'M SORRY.
SAY IT AS THE QUEEN.
>> EARS.
( LAUGHTER ).
>> Stephen: THIS IS MY QUEEN THATCHER ER.
>> THAT'S IT.
>> Stephen: THAT'S NICE.
>> THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
>> Stephen: GILLIAN, OBVIOUSLY, MARGARET THATCHER IS
THE IRON LADY, AND THE QUEEN, AT LEAST TO THOSE OF US WATCHING
FROM A DISTANCE OVER HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, SEEMS LOOK A
FIGURE A BIT CARVED IN MARBLE, VERY STADE, VERY PROPER.
NOW THAT YOU HAVE PLAYED THEM, I ASSUME THERE IS A MORE TENDER OR
HUMAN SIDE THAT YOU DIDN'T SEE BEFORE.
LIKE IS THE QUEEN-- DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO HEAR HER CALLED LILIBET
TO YOU NOW, AS PHILLIP CALLS HER?
>> WELL, YES, I THINK IT'S MORE-- I MEAN, I WOULD NEVER
DARE TO BE PRESUMPTIONUOUS ENOUGH TO SAY I KNOW, YOU KNOW,
HOW SHE FEELS.
I'M AN ACTOR SAYING WORDS, PRETENDING TO BE SOMEONE.
BUT SHE-- SHE'S OBVIOUSLY HUMAN, AND SHE'S BEEN FORCED INTO THIS
JOB THAT SHE WASN'T ACTUALLY MEANT TO DO.
IT WAS MEANT TO BE SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND SHE'S DONE IT WITH EXTRAORDINARY GUSTO AND DIGNITY
AND...
I DON'T KNOW.
I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT HER BEFORE, REALLY.
YOU KNOW, GROWING UP IN A PLACE WHERE THEY HAVE ALWAYS EXISTED,
YOU DON'T REALLY I THINK PAY ATTENTION TO IT AS MUCH AS
COUNTRY WHERE'S THEY DON'T HAVE A MONARCHY, WHICH IS REALLY
FASCINATING.
SO LEARNING ABOUT HER, I THINK-- I DON'T KNOW.
EVERYTHING I'M SAYING IS JUST MADE UP, BECAUSE I DONT KNOW.
SHE SEEMS LIKE A SWEET WOMAN WHO HAS MADE A VOW TO DO THIS JOB
AND IS DOING IT VERY WELL TO THE BEST OF HER ABILITIES, AND
CONSIDERING SHE WAS NEVER MEANT TO DO IT, I THINK SHE'S PRETTY
BLOODY MARVELOUS AT IT.
AND I THINK SHE'S NOT AS STONE AS SHE SEEMS, I THINK.
>> Stephen: AND WHAT ABOUT-- WHAT ABOUT THATCHER, GILLIAN?
BECAUSE-- >> THATCHER, ON THE OTHER HAND,
IS AS IRON AS SHE SEEMS, I THINK.
I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE WRITING IN "THE CROWN,"
PETER'S WRITING IS-- HE CREATES VERY THREE-DIMERCIAL CHARACTERS,
AND I THINK-- AT LEAST FOR ME, I ALWAYS FELT THAT THATCHER WAS--
WHAT I KNEW OF HER SEEMED TO BE QUITE TWO-DIMENSIONAL.
AND, YOU KNOW, "THE CROWN" IS REALLY WONDERFUL AT SHOWING
MANY, MANY DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE HUMAN BEINGS THAT THEY'RE--
THAT THE ACTORS GET TO PORTRAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, IN DOING THE RESEARCH THAT-- A LOT OF
RESEARCH FOR THATCHER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FEELS MOST
IMPORTANT IS TO KIND OF PUT PRECONCEPTIONS TO THE SIDE AND
START FROM SCRATCH BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF STRONG FEELINGS
IN THE U.K. ABOUT THE IRON LADY.
AND TO FIND A WAY INTO HER SO YOU GET TO UNDERSTAND HER BELIEF
SYSTEM AND & WHAT DROVE HER TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE
DID.
WHICH MEANS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT FIND SOME SYMPATHY FOR HER AND
SOME COMPASSION.
BUT AT LEAST, IF NOT THOSE THINGS, YOU AT LEAST FEEL THAT
YOU ARE...
CREATING A MORE THREE-DIMENSIONAL CHARACTER THAN
YOU MIGHT OTHERWISE WOULD WITHOUT DOING THAT WORK.
>> Stephen: LADIES WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK.
STICK AROUND EVERYBODY, WE'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OLIVIA COLMAN AND
GILLIAN ANDERSON.
I WILL ASK WHAT IT'S LIKE TO GO TO BUCKINGHAM PALACE AND MEET
THE FANCY PEOPLE.