EX CIA DIRECTOR JAMES WOOLSEY -- THAT IS HOW YOU SAY IT,
RIGHT?
HE HAS DECIDED TO RESIGN FROM DONALD TRUMP'S TRANSITION
TEAM.
OF COURSE THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF SPECULATION AS TO WHY HE
WOULD DO THAT, ESPECIALLY GIVEN WHAT DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN
SAYING ABOUT INTELLIGENCE ORGANIZATIONS IN THE UNITED
STATES, SPECIFICALLY THE CIA, AND HE IS SAYING, LOOK, LIKE
WHAT TRUMP IS SAYING, BUT THAT'S NOT THE REASON WHY I'VE DECIDED
TO RESIGN.
HERE HE IS, VIDEO NUMBER 4, TALKING ABOUT HOW HE
DISAGREES WITH TRUMP ON HIS POSITION ON RUSSIA AND THE
POTENTIAL OF THEM HACKING INTO THE UNITED STATES.
I WISH HIM WELL, BUT I'M NOT REALLY FUNCTIONING AS AN ADVISOR
ANYMORE.
YOU HAVE COME OUT, AMBASSADOR, ON THIS SHOW AND OTHERS AND SAID
THINGS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY JIBE WITH WHAT TRUMP SAYS,
SPECIFICALLY ON THIS MOST RECENT ISSUE OF RUSSIA'S RESPONSIBILITY
FOR HACKING THE U.S. ELECTION.
DONALD TRUMP DOES NOT ADMIT
THIS.
JAMES CLAPPER SAYS MANY IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY SEE
THIS AS DISPARAGING TO THE COMMUNITY, A FORMER CHIEF OF
STAFF FOR LEON PANETTA SAID THIS COULD LEAD TO A NATIONAL
SECURITY CRISIS.
TONIGHT YOU HEARD PAMELA BROWN, THE U.S.
SAYS NOW THEY KNOW THE IDENTITY OF THE RUSSIANS WHO LEAKED THE
INFORMATION TO WIKILEAKS.
DONALD TRUMP DOES NOT ADMIT TO ANY OF
THIS.
IS PART OF YOUR LEAVING BECAUSE YOU ARE FRUSTRATED WITH
HIM?
THAT LATTER POINT ABOUT THE IN BETWEENS, THE MIDDLEMEN, FOR THE
RUSSIANS IS A RELATIVE -- A NEW FIND, I THINK, WITHIN THE LAST
DAY OR SO.
TO ME THAT IS EXTREME IMPORTANT AND I THINK THAT ONCE
THEY'VE GOT THE IDENTITY OF SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT MAKES IT
CLEAR THAT IT WAS MORE OR LESS CENTRALLY LOCATED, THAN SOMEONE
WHO WAS MORE DISHEVELED AS I WAS CHARACTERIZING IT UP UNTIL A
COUPLE DAYS AGO.
I THINK RUSSIANS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN
ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, BUT IT LOOKS NOW FROM THIS MOST RECENT
ANNOUNCEMENT THAT IT WAS IN A CONTROL MODE RATHER THAN
JUST A PARTICIPATION MODE.
IS IT TIME FOR TRUMP TO SAY, OKAY, ENOUGH ON THIS?
UNCLE?
WHEN I WAS ADVISING HIM I DIDN'T TELL ANYONE WHAT I
COMMUNICATED, AND I'VE WORKED FOR FOUR PRESIDENTS, TWO
REPUBLICANS, TWO DEMOCRATS, I'VE NEVER TOLD ANYONE WHAT I SAID TO
THEM OR THEY SAID TO ME AND I'M NOT STARTING NOW.
HE SAYS HE STEPPING AWAY FROM THE TRANSITION TEAM BECAUSE HE'S
NO LONGER GIVING DONALD TRUMP ADVICE, SO I THINK WHAT THIS IS
REALLY ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT HE DISAGREES WITH DONALD TRUMP AND
WHAT'S GOING ON WITH RUSSIA, WITH DONALD TRUMP'S STATEMENTS
ABOUT THE CIA, AND HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
AND HE WANTS TO HAVE A NICE CLEAN BREAK WITHOUT CONTROVERSY,
BUT I THINK PEOPLE ARE SMARTER THAN THAT AND THEY KNOW WHAT'S
GOING ON.
THAT'S MY SPECULATION, OF COURSE THERE IS NO WAY TO PROVE
IT, BUT IT'S STRANGE THAT HE IS RANDOMLY, AT THIS TIME,
DECIDING TO STEP AWAY FROM THE TRANSITION TEAM.
HE KIND OF POINTED OUT THAT HE SAW SENIOR ADVISOR FROM A LOT
OF QUOTE ATTRIBUTIONS FROM HIM, AND HE WAS SAYING I'M NOT SURE I
WANT MY WATERMARK ON THIS ENVELOPE.
I THINK IT'S
INTERESTING -- FIRST OF ALL, TWO THINGS.
DONALD TRUMP'S OFFICIAL
TWITTER RESPONSE TO THE INFORMATION THAT CAME OUT WAS
I'M ASKING THE HOUSE AND SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES TO
INVESTIGATE SHARING THE INFORMATION WITH NBC BEFORE I
SAW IT.
HE IS NOT INTERESTED IN THE ACCURACY OF THE REPORT, HE
IS SNIFFING AROUND THE THING THAT IS LOWER ON THE TOTEM POLE
OF HIS APPROVAL RATING, AND THAT IS MAINSTREAM MEDIA.
DON'T GET
ME WRONG, THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA HAS A LOT OF PROBLEMS BUT JUST
WRITING NBC IN CAPITAL LETTERS WON'T GET YOU OUT OF THIS ONE.
I THINK IT IS WORSE THAN THAT, HE IS OPEN AND HONEST ABOUT HIS
DISDAIN FOR THE MEDIA IF THEY REPORT ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT
HIM.
YES.
HE TOOK THE WASHINGTON POST'S PRESS CREDENTIALS AWAY FROM THEM
DURING THE PRIMARIES, BECAUSE HE JUST DIDN'T LIKE WHAT THEY HAD
TO SAY ABOUT HIM.
SO HE HAS MENTIONED CERTAIN LIBEL LAWS
THAT WOULD MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR JOURNALISTS TO DO
THEIR JOBS, BECAUSE HE WANTS TO CENSOR THEM.
IT IS IRONIC, THE
SAME INDIVIDUALS THAT VOTED FOR THE GUY WHO SAYS HE DOESN'T LIKE
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS AND CENSORSHIP ALL OF A SUDDEN ARE
SUPPORTING A CANDIDATE WHO WANTS TO CENSOR THE MEDIA AS MUCH AS
POSSIBLE BECAUSE HE DOESN'T LIKE ANY NEGATIVE COVERAGE.
IN THIS
CASE, HE WANTS CONGRESS TO GO AFTER NBC, TO INVESTIGATE HOW IT
IS AND WHY IT IS THAT CNN -- I'M SORRY, NBC --
GOT THIS INFORMATION.
I HOPE NBC IS LIKE, NO, HERE IS WHEN WE GOT IT, HERE IS
WHEN YOU GOT IT, WE GOT IT WHEN YOU WERE TOLD IT.
IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER WHEN NBC GETS IT.
THEY ARE A
JOURNALISTIC ORGANIZATION, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU
LIKE ALL OF THEIR REPORTING, OF COURSE EVERYONE HAS THEIR
FAULTS, BUT REGARDLESS THEY ARE PROTECTED BY THE FIRST
AMENDMENT.
EVEN IF THEY DID GET INTEL BEFORE DONALD TRUMP DID,
IT HAPPENS A LOT.
IT HAS HAPPENED A LOT IN U.S. HISTORY
WHERE JOURNALISTS GET INFORMATION FROM WHISTLEBLOWERS
OR CAN BREAK STORIES WITHOUT OFFICIALS EVEN KNOWING ABOUT IT
TIME.
SORRY, THAT THE REAL JOURNALISM WORKS.
THERE IS THIS LAUNDRY LIST, WHAT I WAS SEEING IN THIS
BREAKDOWN OF THIS CONFLICT HE'S HAVING IS NOW IT'S WITH THE
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE, PANETTA WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW NO
PRESIDENT HAS DONE THIS KIND OF THING WHERE HE'S CLASHING WITH
PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO HELP HIM.
OF COURSE WE KNOW HIS
PROVINCE WITH THE MEDIA.
AND WITH WOOLSEY LEAVING IT APPEARS
THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MORE INFLUENCE BECAUSE OF HIS
OPINIONS.
MAYBE HE VOICED HIS OPINION.
AT THE END OF THAT CLIP
HE SAID I DON'T TELL ANYONE WHAT I'VE SAID TO PRESIDENTS I'VE
ADVISED, I WILL START NOW.
IT WAS PROBABLY A BAD CONVERSATION,
AND AFTERWARDS HE SAID, LET ME GET AWAY FROM THIS.
AND THERE
WAS A POINT WHERE TRUMP WAS GOING AFTER THE HEAD OF A STATE
REPUBLICAN PARTY SYSTEM IN OHIO BECAUSE THE GUY SUPPORTED KASICH
IN THE PRIMARY OVER HIM, AND HE'S TELLING ALL THE COUNCILMAN
AROUND HIM TO GET RID OF HIM.
HE'S FOCUSING ON THE SMALLEST
ISSUES, AND DUDE, YOU'RE PRESIDENT, YOU CAN STEP BEYOND
THESE THINGS NOW.
SO HE'S STARTING BATTLES WITHIN HIS OWN
COUNTRY BEFORE HE EVEN STEPPED INTO OFFICE, BECAUSE OF WHO HAS
TREATED HIM UNFAIRLY.
I THINK YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO WOOLSEY, BECAUSE HE LOOKS
LIKE YODA, LIKE HE HAS THE ANSWERS.
I THINK HE SHOULD LOOK
AT HIS TIMELINE WHEN THIS WAS GOING ON, BECAUSE I GUARANTEE
YOU HIS ASS WAS ON TWITTER.
IT IS RIDICULOUS.
AND THIS IS THE STUFF -- AND VERY, VERY JEDI-LIKE -- THAT IS
NOT THE INTELLIGENCE YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, FOCUS OVER HERE,
THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT.
IT IS TERRIFYING,
BUT THIS IS THE STUFF, ASK CUBANS, ASK ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN
IN A COUNTRY THAT KIND OF TOOK THAT NEXT STEP, AND THIS IS --
I MEAN, IT MIGHT NOT FINISH THAT WAY, WE HAVE A LOT OF
COUNTERBALANCES IN OUR SYSTEM THAT OTHER COUNTRIES DON'T, BUT
THIS IS HOW IT STARTS.
TAKING AWAY YOUR FAITH AND ALL THOSE
INSTITUTIONS.
AND THE OTHER THING IS, YOU SEE THIS GUY WHO
HAS WORKED WITH FOUR PRESIDENTS, BOTH PARTIES, A PERSON WHO IS
ABLE TO TALK TO EVERYONE, ESSENTIALLY SAYING I'M OUT, THIS
GUY IS DIFFERENT.
IN THE WAY HE IS DESCRIBING THE BEHAVIOR IS
THAT HE UNDERSTANDS IT.
HE UNDERSTANDS THAT HE COMES IN
WITH THESE BIG, ARCHING STATEMENTS THAT ARE LIKE, I'M
THE VILLAIN, I'M THE PERSON WHO IS GOING TO SAY THAT BIG, BRASH
THING ON THE WORLD WRESTLING ENTERTAINMENT STAGE, HALF THE
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LIKE, BOO, HALF ARE GOING TO BE LIKE,
YEAH.
IT'S THIS QUASI- PERFORMANCE ART.