♪Bob and Brad, the two most famous physical therapists ♪
♪ On the internet ♪
- Hi folks, I'm Bob Schrupp, physical therapist.
- Brad Heineck, physical therapist.
- And we are the most famous physical therapists
on the internet.
- In our opinion of course Bob.
- So again, thank you to all of you for contributing
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We just wanna make sure we got that out there right away
because some people were wondering what was going
on with that.
So today we're gonna talk about if you are diagnosed
with cancer, top three things you should do immediately.
A lot of this information is from the, "Patients Playbook."
It's by Leslie Michelson.
It's how to save your life and the lives of those you love.
I thought this was a really good comprehensive book,
you know, kind of a guideline of what to do
with any serious illness actually, not just cancer,
but any serious illness.
How to approach it and save your life.
- And how to work with the medical community.
- Exactly, which is very complex as you know.
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Actually, we're givin' away two of these Brad.
- Yeah one in each room.
- Yeah, there you go, but it's a great device for purifying
your air, especially if you have allergies.
- Right, it's really a comprehensive, they've got
the filtering system is very detailed and good job.
It's high quality.
- All right, first off, let me extend my greatest sympathies
to you and your family of people who are watchin', if you're
watchin' this because someone in your family has been
diagnosed with cancer.
- I've gone through this with my daughter.
It's devastating, I just, so what I've found,
one thing that I've found that worked out
the best for us, Brad, is that you
feel better taking action.
- Sure.
- If you're just sitting there lamenting over,
you feel better doing these things that we're gonna
mention today.
So the first thing is you really wanna chose the
right place for treatment.
That seems obvious, but a lot of people, I know,
so they have a hospital in their town, it might be a smaller
hospital and they're goin', "well I got cancer, I'm
just gonna get treated here
'cause it's a lot easier.
You really don't wanna do that.
You wanna pick, basically a center of excellence.
You wanna pick, you know if you have small problems
you can go to a small hospital, but when you have
large problems, you gotta go to a large teaching hospital.
- Sure
- And, most of these, your insurance, a lot of time,
and Medicare will cover these large institutions.
I mean you can go to some of the best institutions in the
world and they'll take Medicare.
- Sure, wow.
- So, you know, in our area we're very lucky.
We've got two like within, what would you say,
an hour and a half?
- Right, easy drive.
- Yeah easy drive.
We have the Mayo Clinic and
we have Gundersen Health Services, Systems.
So all very good.
- I don't know.
I'm kind of goin' against you a little bit here Bob,
but I know my friend went to Gundersen
and then he went to Mayo, and then he actually went
to a third place which was a small,
but it was very specific and that's
all they treated was that specific cancer.
- Exactly, that's a good point.
- So there's exceptions to that.
- Yeah, there's exceptions
to that if you have a clinic that just specializes in that
one cancer, absolutely.
Number two, really get the second opinion.
At least have the pathology report reread.
So one study they cited in here and they had a whole
chapter or section on this, how important this was.
There was 742 patients in this study
and they all had cancer,
and they got a second opinion and 69 of the cases,
that's 9%, it came up with a different diagnosis
on the second opinion.
- It was a different kind of a cancer
or it wasn't cancer? - I don't know
it just was a different diagnosis.
So either way it's really important to know.
- I have a good friend of mine, his father was
diagnosed with lung cancer and the...
- Small cell, or?
- It was from the chemical that you...
- Asbestos?
- Yes and so he was diagnosed with it, so they went
to get the best surgeon they could which happened
to be in New York that they found.
He flew to New York to have the surgery and he was good,
the surgeon was, 'cause something didn't look right
about it, so he got another biopsy of it,
sent it in while he was on the table.
Ended up not being cancer.
- Oh wow.
- And that was five or six years ago and he's healthy as
can be today.
- So, they lived with this diagnosis for, I don't know
how many weeks, before they had,
the whole family was obviously
in turmoil. - Devastated.
- So that 9%, that second opinion can be a real good idea.
- And, you know, you don't, again, have to go necessarily
to see another doctor.
Just send the pathology report.
I used to work at Mayo Clinic and I saw this
all the time Brad.
I mean, I remember one time they go, "Well we saw it in
our scan, but we also look at it and we can see it in
their scan."
They were wrong.
It's just, I don't know what it is,
but there's human error still.
- The human body's complicated.
- Yeah it is, like lung cancer's a notorious one for that.
That they can kind of misdiagnose
as bronchitis and all that.
Okay, number three, you wanna immerse yourself in knowledge
from reputable sites.
So the worst thing you can do is go on Google
and put in your diagnosis and you start reading things
and who knows who you're reading from.
- Right.
- There's a couple sites and they go over a lot
of them in here, but the N-H-I, the N-I-H,
National Institute of Health has a site called pubmed.
pubmed.com.
That's all research studies and that's a little bit more
difficult for the lay person to weed through,
but you know, if you start reading a lot of the studies,
it starts to, you know, make sense to you, some of the
verbiage they use.
But there's certainly other ones that are written
for the lay person.
Mayo Clinic has a website, just mayoclinic.com,
and WebMD, I've found that to be a good solid site.
- Yeah, you know, just knowin' if we Google
and stuff for physical therapy and it's just somethin'
written by someone who is not a therapist, that doesn't
have a background in it, but they have some exercise
background and they're tryin' to treat.
- Yeah we see some crazy stuff - Give information
on back pain and it's like,
they clearly haven't seen patients
for back pain over a period of years.
- What I often see, and on YouTube a lot, is that someone
treated their own back using a certain method and it worked,
but in the vast majority of the cases that's not gonna work.
In fact it'll probably make things worse.
So you really wanna go to reputable sources.
- Sure.
- All right, good luck with it.
I hope, you know, things turn out great for you.
- Right exactly.
- All right.
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