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\f0\fs24 \cf0 >> Joanne: JOINING ME TO TALK\ ABOUT THIS OBSESSION WITH\
TECHNOLOGY AND DOWN SIDE IS\ DR.
LARRY ROSEN AUTHOR OF\ "iDISORDER."\
THANK YOU DR.
ROSEN, FOR BEING\ HERE.\
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON\ THE SHOW.\
>> Joanne: IS IT DIGITAL\ TECHNOLOGY CAUSING THE PROBLEM\
OR WE HAVE THE PROBLEM AND WE'RE\ ATTRACTED TO DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY.\
>> I THINK IT'S BOTH BUT MORE OF\ THE LATTER.\
I THINK THE TECHNOLOGY\ EXACERBATE PROBLEMS WE HAVE AND\
CREATES PROBLEMS FOR US.\ FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE GOT ON\
FACEBOOK AND POST THINGS ON\ FACEBOOK LIKE STATUS UPDATES A\
LOT OF PEOPLE POST THINGS THAT\ WILL SAY "I" AND "ME."\
IT'S ALL ABOUT ME AND I AND\ THAT'S TRAITS OF NARCISSISM.\
PEOPLE ARE PLAYING THINGS OUT\ BEHIND SCREENS THAT THEY MAY\
HAVE INSIDE OR THE TECHNOLOGY\ HELPS THEM PLAY IT OUT.\
>> Joanne: IF WE DIDN'T HAVE\ FACEBOOK WOULD WE NOT BE ABLE TO\
CHANNEL OUR INNER NARCISSISM?\ >> WE WOULD USE E-MAILS.\
YOU HAVE GOT EN E-MAILS AND IT'S\ ALL ABOUT ME.\
TO ALL OF MY FRIENDS TO SEE WHAT\ I'M DOING IN FRANCE RIGHT NOW.\
AS IF ANYONE REALLY CARED.\ >> Joanne: WHAT ARE OTHER\
\page PSYCHIATRIC DISORDERS YOU\ CONNECT TO i TECHNOLOGY.\
>> THERE ARE QUITE A FEW.\ OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE DISORDER\
AND SOCIAL PHOBIA I THINK ARE\ CRITICAL.\
OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE DISORDER IS\ EASY.\
YOU CAN'T WALK OUT OF THE HOUSE\ WITH YOUR PHONE AND I PAD MY\
POCKETS THROUGH THE DAY TO MAKE\ SURE MY PHONE IS THERE LIKE A\
SAFETY BLANKET.\ WE SEE WITH KIDS, TEENAGERS AND\
YOUNG ADULTS THEY LITERALLY ACT\ LIKE THEY HAVE OCD.\
THEY CAN'T GO TO DINNER WITHOUT\ THE PHONE ON THE TABLE.\
IF THEY HAVE A TEXT THEY\ SALIVATE AND HAVE TO ANSWER\
IMMEDIATELY.\ THESE TECHNOLOGIES ARE\
ENCOURAGING US TO ENCOURAGE\ THESE SIGNS OF OBSESSIVE\
COMPULSIVE DISORDER.\ SAME WITH SOCIAL SKILLS.\
WE ARE SOCIAL ANIMALS BUT MUCH\ OF IT TAKES PLACE BEHIND\
SCREENS.\ WE DON'T THINK CAREFULLY BEHIND\
SCREENS THE KINDS OF THINGS WE\ SAY AND THE WORDS WE'RE UTTERING\
TO PEOPLE ON THE OTHER END OF\ THE SCREEN.\
PEOPLE FEEL PHOBIC ABOUT BEING\ SOCIAL BECAUSE THEY'RE HURT\
ON-LINE.\ THEY HAVE GOT EN NASTY COMMENTS\
TO A POST THEY THOUGHT WAS\ INNOCUOUS.\
THERE ARE ALL OF THESE WEIRD\ THINGS GOING ON WHERE THE\
TECHNOLOGY IS IMPACTING US IN\ STRANGE WAYS.\
>> Joanne: IT'S LIKE WE'RE NOT\ TAKING PART IN OUR LIVES.\
WE'RE POSTING THEM INSTEAD OF\ LIVING THEM.\
>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT.\ I TALK ABOUT IN THE BOOK ABOUT\
\page IT'S NOT GIVING UP THE\ TECHNOLOGY WE GO.\
WE'RE TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD.\ BESIDES IT'S WONDERFUL\
TECHNOLOGY.\ THE PROBLEM IS MONITORING YOUR\
USE.\ THAT'S THE KEY NOW.\
IN THE BOOK I TALK ABOUT WHAT\ GOES ON IN YOUR BRAIN.\
WHAT IS YOUR BRAIN DOING WHEN\ YOU USE THE TECHNOLOGY.\
ATTRACTIVE WITH THE BRIGHT\ LIGHTS, VIBRATIONS, BEEPS AND\
ALL THAT GRABS YOU IN.\ BUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN YOUR\
HEAD WHEN YOU'RE NOT USING THE\ TECHNOLOGY.\
YOU THINK, I WONDER IF SOMEONE\ LIKED MY POST ANOTHER DAY.\
SO DAY IS SO AND SO'S BIRTHDAY I\ SHOULD GO ON FACEBOOK AND WISH\
THEM HAPPY BIRTHDAY.\ OR THERE IS A YOUTUBE VIDEO\
ABOUT A CAT I SHOULD SEE.\ THEN THREE HOURS LATER YOU'RE ON\
YOUTUBE WATCHING VIDEOS OF CATS.\ >> Joanne: HOW DID YOU CONDUCT\
YOUR RESEARCH.\ >> I HAVE DONE IT FOR ABOUT 30\
YEARS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF\ TECHNOLOGY AND WE HAD BIG\
COMPUTERS BEHIND GLASS WALLS.\ I HAVE SEEN THE CHANGE OVERTIME\
AND SEEN THE TECHNOLOGY COME\ FASTER AND FASTER AND FASTER.\
WE'RE NOT REALLY REACTING TO IT\ PSYCH LOGICALLY.\
WE TAKE IT IN AND USE IT NOT\ THINKING ABOUT WHAT IT DOES TO\
US AND THE PEOPLE WE CARE ABOUT\ AROUND US.\
>> Joanne: WHAT IS YOUR BEST\ ADVICE.\
I HAVE MY PHONE RIGHT HERE NEXT\ TO ME.
I CAN'T BE WITHOUT IT\ IT'S NEXT TO MY BED AT NIGHT.\
WHAT'S YOUR BEST ADVICE.\ >> MY BEST ADVICE OVER ALL IS WE\
NEED TO LEARN TO FOCUS WITHOUT\ \page OUR TECHNOLOGY.\
WHAT I DO IN MY LIFE AND WHAT I\ PEOPLE I KNOW DO AS WELL AS\
TEACHERS IN CLASSROOMS AND\ FAMILIES AT DINNER I DO TECH\
BREAKS.\ SUPPOSE YOU'RE AT DINNER WITH\
THE FAMILY.\ EVERYONE HAS THEIR PHONE AT THE\
TABLE TO CHECK IT OTHERWISE THEY\ MAY MISS OUT DURING A 45 MINUTE\
DINNER.\ CHECK YOUR PHONE, ONE MINUTE.\
TEXT.\ TURN YOUR PHONE TO SILENT AND\
UPSIDE DOWN ON THE TABLE.\ NOW IT'S A STIMULUS THAT SAYS I\
WILL CHECK THE PHONE IN 15\ MINUTES.\
IT'S THERE AND NOW YOU HAVE A\ FAMILY CONVERSATION FOR 15\
MINUTES.\ TALK ABOUT TECHNOLOGY, YOUR DAY,\
IT DOESN'T MATTER.\ 15 MINUTES, TECH BREAK.\
YOUR YOUR PHONE AND PUT IT DOWN\ AGAIN.\
THAT WORKS BEAUTIFULLY.\ YOU CAN LENGTHEN THE 15 MINUTES\
IF YOU WANT YOUR KIDS TO FOCUS\ MORE.\
20 MINUTES AFTER AWHILE.\ THEN MAYBE THEY WILL GO THE\
WHOLE DINNER WITHOUT USING THE\ PHONE.\
>> Joanne: OUR TIME IS UP.\ THANK YOU, DR.
ROSEN.\ WHERE IS YOUR BOOK?\
>> AMAZON, BARNES AND NOBLE, ANY\ BOOKSTORE.\
>> Joanne: THE TITLE AGAIN\ "iDISORDER, UNDERSTANDING OUR\
OBSESSION WITH TECHNOLOGY AND\ IT'S OLD ON US."\
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