and it looks like durham is doing
everything seemingly right even though
he's in with a very uh jury that seems
very compromised and a judge that seems
to have a horse in this race for some
reason john durham said i'm going to go
ahead with this and we're going to have
this trial with michael sussman who
seems as guilty as the day is long that
is just part of what kellyanne
conway has experienced when she had her
four years and of course the years
leading uh the trump team to the 2016
win and through 2020 as an advisor her
book is now out it's called here's the
deal the special was last night out
tomorrow right it's out tomorrow
tomorrow order it today yes yes too kill
me listeners
and we have a lot uh kellyanne great
special last night our special was
fantastic
you did host your own special which is
weird that's never been done before i
don't think in the history but uh but
you always do things that make history
here's the deal as an as a name first
off on what cash patel said yes when you
were
i asked a lot of people who were in and
out like will part of the campaign and
we're on the outside and then inside so
i'd watch these revelations come in it's
like donald trump did this donald trump
did that and i go is this
what's going on here like did you notice
with were there calls going in were
there some i don't know what you're
talking about nobody was saying that's
absolutely not true but they'd say i
never saw any of this
when some of this stuff was coming in
uh
starting really what october september
october right
did you ever see yourself guys who is
this no
i'll tell you why we were so busy we
were understaffed under resource
underestimated underdog campaign and the
strategy was very clear i was
transparent about it every day there's
donald trump going to seven or eight
states
governor pence doing the same
speaking in front of the cameras
directly to the people and then i was on
seven or eight tv shows a day on average
brian going through the strategy we're
going to go to michigan wisconsin we
think our message will play in
pennsylvania we're going to be a little
bit less in new mexico and nevada here's
why
and if i were talking to moscow you
wouldn't have seen me i was talking to
people in macomb county michigan and
mecklenburg county north carolina not a
bunch of russians the reason that this
took hold is because the hillary
campaign that did have all the king's
horses all the king's men all their
money and momentum and all the media
behind them they didn't have a good
candidate they had a flawed candidate
and they in case of emergency you break
the glass you pull the rip cord and you
come up with another strategy their
strategy was to pretend that we were
being aided and abetted by russia to win
the election and they didn't leave it on
election night they actually accelerated
these rumors and these claims and
pretending there was evidence after the
election the 35-page steele dossier
was being discussed in the oval office
on january 5th 2017 two short weeks
before president trump is going to be
sworn in we're being told i'm at lunch
with valerie jarrett downstairs navy
messer being told we want a smooth
transition democracy
needs it we're a sturdy country et
cetera and the fix was in they came to
trump tower the very next day clapper
comey brennan the national security team
to brief the president on very scary
situations around the world and as they
were leaving i write in my book here's
the deal on sale today brian that
comey takes trump aside basically just
standing up and it was as an aside and
says well we're looking into this we
don't know too much seth meyers asks me
about it on tv a couple days later
and and then
donald trump has that press conference
comedy show on that right and then well
where people used to be funny um i like
comedians who are funny but anyway
donald trump the day after that he has
a big press conference in the atrium of
trump tell you'll remember this on
january 11th and he's being asked
questions about this and he's curiously
looking around
the
the hunter biden laptop contents are
more verifiable than the steele dossier
and which one was pushed and pushed and
pushed for years with no verification
and no veracity you see that now because
people are in courtrooms under oath on
the record so they're being honest now
as opposed to the steele dossier which
could never be verified brian do you
think in the summer of 2016 if the media
could have run with the steele dossier
and talked about russia collusion with
any kind of authority they wouldn't have
they wanted to stop donald trump but
they couldn't do it so buzzfeed did it
after trump was elected then cnn went
ahead and ran a story referring to the
buzzfeed piece and they wanted words
over this and the new york times people
want politics over this give them back
and let's pay attention to the suspense
trial because now actual heads are going
to roll i believe okay a couple of
things i watched in other channels too
because i was astounded because you know
i've been here a while and you've been
on our channel a while i've never seen
such a division between two worlds where
there'll be real issues going on the
economy growing the deficit growing
whatever it was go to bed go to bed uh
you know what the president's policy was
with nato you know there's stuff to talk
about so i'd be preparing for a show and
we'd be talking about okay the president
wants a part of nato maybe his chief of
staff disagrees with that that's kind of
interesting yes right of course but you
turn on the other channel you come on we
try russia
was non-stop and about this and so you'd
be like i don't know what you talk about
and after a while i almost understand
why some of the guys and some of the
women were like why do i want to do this
interview they're just going to keep
bringing everything about russia and
behind the scenes you're getting things
uh going you could also do it in the
oval office and the and the press room
was a joke the president would that's
right the president would invite the
press into the oval office something joe
biden does not do they now have said
because he needs a teleprompter brian
they have to recreate a phony oval
office is it's unbelievable isn't it
it's i just hope people know that this
is these are the facts
and president trump would sue espanta
spontaneously invite the press into the
oval office to talk about whatever guest
was there whatever policy prescription
was going to go forward whatever was
happening legislating on capitol hill
and they would ask him every question
would be about russia
and you know what we should have known
then what's happening now which is this
brian
that this white house wants you to
believe what they say not what you see
and the same thing was happening with
russia collusion instead of focusing on
what you see
and what you want to be true
of this policy or that they're telling
you believe what we say
and i think it's all coming back to hurt
them hillary clinton is damaged goods
this ridiculous notion she could ever
run for president again be a three-time
loser have at it lady i'm ready for you
i'm here and
that but it also tells you how weak
their bench is but don't forget that the
media didn't just want donald trump to
win in 2016.
they were shocked that he did and i
think the shock and embarrassment of
donald trump
winning in 2016 which is
talked an awful lot about in new ways
never been told never before told
stories in my book here's the deal brian
that bothered them more to be
embarrassed and shocked by donald
trump's election than even him being
president down further silicon valley
because you use facebook and use twitter
in order to win and get your message out
and they they would determine you know
who told me that neil ferguson in 2017
uh i can't remember was on camera or
waiting in the break and he said
you cannot overstate how embarrassed and
angry silicon valley is that they
ignored facebook and twitter you guys
didn't you used it circumvented and used
social media and they feel responsible
for trump winning and they're going to
get back in them and they did so two
people to know there jeff sucker at cnn
and mark zuckerberg at facebook let me
focus on both of them they were both as
you correctly point out
reviled and insulted and just put upon
by their colleagues i went to up to
harvard institute of politics on
december 1st they have the tradition of
inviting both campaigns as senior people
and devolved into jennifer palmieri who
apparently also knew
about this um sussman stuff according to
robbie mook and others but anyway um
zucker the night before at the dinner
was being president excoriated
by his colleagues saying that trump is
your fault you kept the empty podium
waiting for donald trump in the
right-hand corner you covered every
single word and we put him on audio
giving him coaching correct
and so people were mad at him and what
did he do all of a sudden cnn had to
become the anti-trump network not even
their their job is to get this story but
their mission was to get the president
absolutely and it's all evidence here
mark zuckerberg in the 2016 campaign
brian people say what did zuckerberg do
the answer is nothing meaning he let us
run ads on facebook we paid our money we
ran our ad same thing on google youtube
we use twitter president trump mr trump
used twitter well and so
the net net effect of that is we were
under resource so we could not do all tv
ads hillary had unlimited resources but
we knew this is where people were
getting information now it's very
natural for you to receive your
information digitally so we invest in
that 50 digital ads 50 television ads
and it paid off for us but zuckerberg
came under fire how dare you why didn't
you just not take their money why did
you help elect donald trump so what
happened in 2020
dave bossie's new movie rigged is
brilliant because it goes through all of
the states and the precincts where
zuckerberg and his wife priscilla chan
through two non-profits cltc is the
acronym for one called you know civic
life and technology council or something
or other they're trying high-mindedly to
make sure that we can all vote safely
because of covid that sounds like a nice
goal but riddle me this why did 92
of the money that was spent go to joe
biden
uh one precinct you don't want the rest
of us to be safe so i think that's
president trump and i were discussing
that book and he had the documentary and
he said what do you think and i said i
read that and i'm surprised you won
mississippi in other words the fix was
in in so many places ahead of time it's
fine to spend money to help people vote
but why are you picking and choosing the
states georgia arizona wisconsin
pennsylvania these places that ended up
being razor thin margins and we know
with kovid kovid became coveted was a
reason for us to vote differently but
now it's become an excuse for us to
continue to vote that way and that has
to stop a couple of things the nra got
attacked and destroyed and they they
were a big help weren't they first time
around the nra well yes they were they
were a big help only because they're
reaching out to their members and saying
one person hillary clinton has an f on
the second amendment and donald trump
has an a and then just and to motivate
the nra was motivated to help you guys
anything with the pro-life groups same
with the pro-life group so the other
thing was
brad parscale had an absolute meltdown
he was clearly the wrong person to lead
that organization
and he had absolute meltdown he ends up
shirtless being arrested after allegedly
striking his wife and that is the
representation of the guy in the final
backstretch who's supposed to lead trump
to re-election
yeah i mean that's a little bit of a
problem he alienated a lot of people
kept a very tight unit there wasn't
really a sense of team at all with the
2016. well 2020 2020 were so different i
write about the tale of two campaigns
and i think 2016 was such a
representation of donald trump the
swagger the hunger that connect directly
with the people right but he couldn't
even do these rallies because of the
pandemic for the longest time then he
got it at the end then he said screw it
i'm going to go do it anyway yeah he did
and
you know he so he would move through and
he had the rally at the end but uh
having said that you cut out you you
really have a
a problem with kushner correct so you
really feel as though
that he had his hands in everything but
was not in front of everything well
that's a fact it's not my feeling i
think that that was uh purposeful and
look jared kushner is a very smart
person he's highly intelligent and he
came to the white house i think to do
good for the country but you can't
overstuff your portfolio
with all these different issues in your
first job in washington dc ever i think
it's very charming and was conclusive
that the president united states donald
trump had never had washington
experience to speak of that is what
mattered to the public elevating him and
electing him over hillary clinton but
it's not so charming when your senior
staff does
and let why don't you just go learn
something so i think the arrogance and
the i know betterness and the
overstuffed portfolio sometimes there
are cat there are senate confirmed
cabinet members who are in charge of an
issue
that had that being taken away by the
president's son-in-law so it ended up
being very chaotic and confusing there
are people on capitol hill who have to
take his call who can't say no even if
they thought well this is not the way
we're going to write the bill or this is
not what the president ran on so look my
main problem is the president informed
of how much jared kushner was doing uh
sometimes but you know my main problem
with jared is very simple and it and it
boiled over i write about it in my book
it boiled over
in this oh in this meeting in jared's
office in the summer of 2019 and i
walked in it was she called the meeting
was jared brad parscale ronna mcdaniel
the head of the rnc still is and mick
mulvaney then chief of staff and it
boiled over where jared said oh i had no
my idea how much you hated me kelly and
i said jared i don't hate you don't
flatter yourself i don't understand you
we're three plus years into this the
president wants us to work together and
all you do is try to get get in my way
you roll your eyes you roll me the
president says work together on this the
two of you and you give him a very
flippant shore and then you tell people
i'm a leaker of course he had people on
the government payroll who were leaking
left and right um and by the way there's
a whole chapter in here called how to
spot a leaker folks you want to pick up
this book how to spot a leaker i was
accused of being a leaker and i exposed
those who were leaking that brian
they're always the people who don't go
on tv and say oh you're so amazing
kellyanne how do you handle the press
like that and they're in the back
talking to the press all day long i'm on
tv for the whole world to see and they
did literally you think i'm going to go
inside and and be on the phone the whole
time bannon with these three
blackberries and three shirts and three
pens and jared with the how did benny
get back in the inner circle uh well
he's well he's got a podcast and or
something and and i've been on it i plan
on going it this week um but he's also
somebody who's you know very much
pushing between november 6 and what i
call january 6 those two months of
election fraud um but anyway that aside
my problem with kushner is that the
president united states who got elected
and the rest of us did not
wants us to work together wants me to
work on the opioid crisis on veterans on
the trade on trade meetings be in the be
in the tax cut and jobs act being the
coronavirus task force meetings where i
was stop getting in my way and i know a
couple things and look i had a united
states senator tell me early on listen
i'm all about family i don't know what's
going on with kushner but he was very
flippant about you in a meeting why does
he have to say my name it's bad enough
i'm not there but why do you have to say
my name telling telling network
executives don't have her on anymore
telling a network executive who
interviewed for a communications
director my name wasn't even part of the
conversation and out of nowhere he said
by the way kellyanne won't be very
powerful or important here she's not
going to be on marine one air force one
two days later on marine one and air
force one going with the president to
feel like why even do it and i think the
palace intrigue started with things like
that it was petty right and it was
immature and it and it hurt the name of
the book is here's the deal well a few
more minutes with kellyanne right after
this it is out tomorrow but pre-order it
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