So you say you've been looking into Islam?
Yeah.
And where do you say...
I mean do you believe in God, yeah, you believe that this universe was created by God.
Of course, it can't just create itself, yeah. and you know and you believe that God sent
us Messengers one after the other to show us how to live our lives, yeah of course he
did, and obviously gave us guidance so that we can fulfil our purpose.
So in Islam, of course, this life is a test for us, yeah and there is a hereafter afterwards
and we were rewarded and punished accordingly what's stopping you from becoming Muslim what
was the.. is there anything?
A couple of questions a couple of things that...it doesn't make sense but I just need to understand
more.
Okay, go ahead.
So if you're a Non-Muslim you can't go to paradise?
So if a person dies if the message comes to a person exactly so if the person's never
heard...
if the person has never heard of Islam then will we believe that on the day of judgment
Allah will test that person so if they've never heard of the message okay like it's
never come to them but in the 21st century almost everyone has heard of Islam you know
especially in the day that we live in now everyone's heard of Islam but they say there's
some remote tribe in the past etc... and it hadn't reached them, then Allah will test
them on the day of judgment and then they'll be rewarded or punished accordingly but for
a person who the true message of Islam has come to them is truest in its correct form
and they reject that yeah then that person obviously will be in the hellfire forever
and a person who accepts they'll be in Paradise forever, this is the truth.
So if you live a good life and you've never heard of Islam, will God let you into heaven?
Again like I said if you've never heard of Islam then Allah will test you on the day
of judgment.
So if he tests you as a good person who lived a good life will you enter Paradise?
So if you're a good person but you have uh never heard of Islam for that goodness you'll
be rewarded in this life so either God will give you some blessings or remove some harm
from you for the good you've done in this life but if you've never heard of Islam like
we said Allah will test that person on the day of judgement, okay and they'll and according
to how they uh sort of perform in that test they will enter to paradise or the hellfire
but like I said a person like yourself forget about hypotheticals you've looked into Islam
you're looking into Islam what do you believe?
My personal belief, I believe in a higher power, sorry say that again.
Are you asking me what I believe about a higher power?
Yeah, I believe that he is God, I believe that he created everything in the world, that
umm... he's a good God, he's a righteous God, he's not... because me I grew up as a Christian
but the whole belief that Jesus died for our sins it doesn't sound...it doesn't...
like in Islam, you believe that when you sin you turn back to God and you repent, but in
Christianity, Gog kills an innocent man and spills his blood then you can be forgiven.
To me that's not righteous, you get what I'm trying to say, yeah.
So why does God need human sacrifice, and the human sacrifice is supposedly himself,
exactly you see what I mean.
It doesn't make sense.
I'm glad you're sort of seeing that um you know that, that clarity really because how
does it make sense that God himself sacrifices himself to himself to forgive us for a rule
which he made, yeah to me that whole thing doesn't add up doesn't make sense, yeah I
know so I mean most, the thing is when we ask Christians this question a lot of them
they're still in that tunnel vision they're like you know but that's love but this is
the love of God and this is the mercy of God, come on man ask yourself how's God sacrificing
himself for himself how is he becoming a man these things just don't add up in Islam you
don't have these confusions in Islam we are the creation of God Jesus Christ is the creation
of God he is a Prophet and messenger from God you have the belief of a Muslim what were
the other points that were holding you back from becoming Muslims?
Umm.. you know Jesus, do you believe that God took him up, he never got crucified?
So yeah we believe Jesus Christ peace be on him was never crucified that God raised him
to himself and he will return towards the day of judgment he will return back to his
life so but you know um historical scholars who study history yes and talk about I mean
ancient Egypt and stuff like that it's a fact to them that Jesus Christ was crucified so
if Jesus wasn't crucified you died on the cross?
Yeah, good question so even if you look into non-Muslim sources if you look into Christian
sources okay there is the **STARTS RAINING** oh let's go uh where should we go let's go
in underneath here....
If you look into uh Christian sources there is something called the the Gospel of Basilides
go and look it up don't look it up and in there in in his gospel okay so he's a I think
he was uh he was a Christian from egypt at the time and he even mentioned that there
was another man who was sacrificed or sorry who was crucified on the cross and his name
was Simon of Cyrene so yes in historical accounts they they will say that there was a man who
was crucified on the cross because the Qur'an says that Jesus Christ peace be on him wasn't
crucified but there was someone who had his appearance there was someone who had his appearance
who was crucified and to those who were watching they appeared to them as if it was Jesus Christ
but it wasn't him so of course historical account this this marries up with his historical
accounts the Qur'an doesn't say that no one was crucified it says a man who had his appearance
was crucified but Jesus Christ wasn't crucified that they never crucified him nor did they
kill him he was raised to God to himself so that would marry that would that would that
wouldn't contradict historical accounts another important part also is that Prophet Jesus
is the mighty Prophet of God mighty Prophet why would Allah want him to die?
for his own people, not just that but I mean even for Christians if a Christian even for
Christians the reason why the early Christians rejected this idea of Jesus being crucified
because they said how can the son of God be crucified how can the son of God who or God
himself be crucified for them that was unacceptable how can God who saw almighty and all-powerful
be crucified that was something which the idea they could that he by his own creation
is being crucified and humiliated on the cross and you know the crucifixion they didn't have
a little loincloth the person completely naked it's a humiliating death and a painful death
on the cross not just a human being but God himself and that's something which why the
early Christians rejected this idea altogether.
So what's stopping you from becoming a Muslim then?
Nothing.
Because you don't really identify as a typical Christian, I'm not a Christian, I used to
be but there were certain things about Christianity I just did;t understand, I just didn't make
sense.
Like what?
Loads of things, like saying God is one, but it's basically saying there are three Gods.
Jesus is different to the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is different to the Father, it's
literally three Gods, I don't believe there are three Gods, I believe there is One God.
Exactly that's a fundamental thing you know you mentioned some of these points about uh
Islam etc these aren't fundamental beliefs the belief in who God is is a foundational
belief of a religion like Christianity and if that's something which can't which you
know doesn't make sense and is hard to accept.
In Islam Allah is one, he has no beginning no end no parents no children you know he's
completely perfect in all ways so uh that side of things obviously uh Islam has that
sort of clarity, it's more monotheistic and that's what really this is the teaching of
Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ never taught that there were three, look he worshipped the father, if he
was God himself why does he need a God there's a lot of you know logical issues there so
um he lived his life as a Muslim you know worshipping one God etc...
Wasn't he before Muhammad (peace be upon him)?
Of course yeah, so the word Muslim means a person who submits their will to the will
of God linguistically yeah so you've really looked into Islam Maasha'Allah, I can see
you... how long have you been looking into it?..
a couple of months a couple of months okay you've got really deep into it and where are
you studying it from where would you say?
YouTube, some Muslim scholars
anyone in particular?
you know Mufti Menk yeah, Khalid Yasin yes very good I like his style and what's the
guy's name... Abdur Raheem Green, again very good Maasha'Allah.
I watch all of them, they all make sense.
When I watch Christian YouTube, they sound like good people but what they're saying doesn't
make sense.
Like for example, Jesus is God but the son of God like you can't be god and the son of
God at the same time.
Again that the problem with Christianity you saw they say we have to just believe just
believe you blindfolded just believe and the things we're not here just having to dig at
Christine for the fun of it but the reason is I have to if I want to show you something
I have to show you why it doesn't make sense not in a not in a to offend or anything like
that but if I was to say this is false I have to justify that you know.
uh so with Islam alhamdulillah we don't have that sort of confusion things are things are
straightforward the truth settles in the heart you know if I tell you God is one that's that
simple straightforward and there are no partners there's no sons and daughters nothing like
that he's one he's our creator we are his creation we're here for a purpose and we have
a goal and an aim in this life and we have a hereafter paradise from the hellfire simple
as that.
So I mean whenever you're ready...
How can I convert?
To take your shahada, if you believe that there's no one worthy of worship except Allah
accept God and the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ peace be upon him is his last and final messenger
and of course, you believe in all the messengers that came before them Jesus Abraham Moses
Noah you know all the messengers that came before we believe in the revelations the original
Bible the original t Torah you know the uh all the revelations
that came before in the past okay we believe in the hereafter that there is a hellfire
in paradise we believe in the existence of angels okay the those who bring the revelation
to us etc these are all fundamental uh beliefs if this is already in your heart then you
say that as a statement on your tongue which is called the shahada you've probably heard
that when been looking it up online, yeah I've heard it, which is just saying I believe
there is no one worthy worship except Allah and the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ peace be upon
him is his last to final messenger and from that point all your previous sins are forgiven
and you start your new life as a Muslim worshiping Allah how he wants you to worship him and
it will transform you as a person if you look at every new Muslim AbdurRaheem Green, Khalid
Yasin these are all people, they're converts to Islam they're converts to Islam and people
who knew them before Islam and after Islam they would say it's like night and day a complete
transformation you know and that's what Islam does it really like .. it enhances a person
completely because all the good qualities they have inside them, I believe there's goodness
in your heart no doubt okay buy the way you're speaking you seem like a sincere person and
the points you've made that seem like very valid points not just for the sake of it you've
looked into things and you're asking very good questions okay um then taking that step
okay you just say that statement and that's your key to key to paradise every Muslim will
enter paradise without doubt and there's no pressure there's no pressure it's not Alhamdulillah
Islam doesn't need us Islam doesn't need Muslims we have you know over nearly 2 billion Muslims
it doesn't but we need to have that connection with Allah we need that because if tomorrow
or whenever if we pass away something happens to us there is a hellfire there is there is
a paradise there is a questioning and we need to be in a position where we feel okay I can
I can answer God in on a good good grounding now I mean you ask that question is that something
you're looking into doing to become Muslim, yeah.
Yeah, I do... and is there anything that's influencing you
is there anyone who's any other pressure that's making you do that no it's completely off
your own choice.
It's my own choice it's my it's like my opinion like Islam makes more sense than Christianity.
Ok if you want we can do the shahada today, right now?
right now.
Right here?
Right now right here.
Yeah, okay let's go over there..
Like I said there's no pressure on your choice you just completely your own will to do it
so I'll say in Arabic and English okay and then you repeat after me okay so you say “Ashadu
an la ilaha illalla, wa ashadu anna Muhammad rasul Allah."
and this means that I bear witness that there is no one worthy of worship except Allah and
I bear witness that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the Messenger of Allah
AllahuAkbar!
(Allah is the Greatest)
The brothers are eager to hug you here maasha'Allah.
There's two billion of us coming to hug you :)