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- Hey, it's Walker.
I'm at the CSI Executive Conference
here with Kevin McClusky from Inductive Automation
who are the developers of the Ignition platform,
you guys, any of our followers are gonna know
exactly what I'm talking about.
What I wanted to do is give Kevin an opportunity
to give his 30-second pitch around Ignition Eight
and the new Perspective Module,
and then we're gonna ask a couple of questions.
So, Kevin you wanna give us the 30-second elevator pitch?
Ignition Eight?
- Sure thing.
Yeah so, oh right, your gonna hold that. (laughing)
So Ignition Eight,
new version, so I'm an engineer.
I know a lot of you out there are engineers.
So from my perspective,
so Ignition Eight has three new features that are fantastic.
One of them is file-based storage
so you can start using version control systems.
The second one is a fully revamped tag system
so it's much more efficient for memory-based tags.
It's much more efficient for OBC tags.
There's a variety of other benefits
where it's really extensible
and then the third major new feature
is actually a new module that is available for purchase
called Ignition Perspective
and Perspective, that module allows for
both web-browser based clients or sessions and apps
that are native apps for both IOS and for Android.
- Excellent.
So, of the three new features,
the three core new features in Ignition Eight,
which of the one as an engineer do you think
provides the most value immediately in the market?
- From my perspective, that's gotta be Perspective.
- Okay. Yeah.
- So from my perspective, I think it's the new tag engine.
I love Perspective by the way.
It's a phenomenal module but from my perspective,
the new tag engine change,
so when you're, you do script heaving,
script-heavy development
especially when you're browsing tags a lot,
which is really inefficient
in the previous versions of Ignition,
in Ignition Eight, now you can subscribe
to attributes of tags which makes that change driven
on the tag engine as opposed to having to be checked
through a browse all the time
which is just absolutely phenomenal.
A couple of things, so you and I talked earlier
about the Perspective Module - Yeah.
- and the learning curve in developing,
essentially you're developing in a React environment
is really what it feels like, right so
in our opinion,
it'll be very important for integrators to have
to bring a web developer on staff.
Somebody that they could
really help bridge the gap between the controls engineers
who are currently developing with Ignition
and the controls engineers
who will be developing in Perspective.
Do you have any opinions on that particular opinion of mine
and do you have any other pointers
that you wanna give to people
about developing with the new module?
- Sure, yeah.
So actually a back up just for a second so,
for really large systems,
I fully agree with you that the tag change
behind the scenes certainly are probably going to be
the most impact - Yeah.
- For someone who's running something that has 500,000 tags.
That's going to be huge. - Yeah.
- You know our customers are anywhere from
really large systems down to really small systems.
I think for the average customer,
it might be Perspective.
I think for larger customers,
the tag system changes are going to be huge.
- Okay.
- So to answer your question that you just asked,
I think that it depends on the size of the project
and it depends on how important mobile
and how important scalability and responsiveness
inside the web application is.
- Okay. I think for a lot of projects,
- Absolutely, if you have a web developer
that's going to be a huge help.
They already understand web concepts,
they already understand the type of styling
that you can do - Hmm.
- Ignition does use React behind the scenes.
Being a React developer,
nobody really needs to understand
to React - Hmm.
- To use Perspective, you can do that even if you're a,
someone who's coming from
just a basic engineering background
and you're dragging a few things out to screen.
But to give your customers a really killer experience
that's going to be as amazing of a web app
as you could possibly make,
having a web developer on staff
would absolutely be something that would help
with that process.
- So one of the things we've been talking about a lot,
in Telekinet 4.0 Solutions,
is where do we see Perspective being leveraged the most
in the market right now?
For us, one of the places that I,
I immediately I think it's just gonna be
in the mobile development,
mobile application, mobile access to data
through Ipads and through yourself
or say their telephone,
but at long term, where one of the big growth areas
that I see for Perspective
is gonna be on the OEM side,
so OEMs are gonna imbed Perspective in their equipment,
Ignition in their equipment,
they're gonna use Perspective for all the forward facing
analytics and dashboards for their customers.
Very similar to what factory talk analytics
was supposed to do for Rockwell Automation.
I really see that as a huge growth area.
The other thing I do want to point out,
working with Perspective which I was most impressed with,
it's literally the only web development environment
that is truly drag and drop.
Like I mean you literally can drag components on the screen
just like you can with Vision
and you can easily connect data to those components.
I would say the learning curve piece
is probably, there's so many more attributes available
on those components that we're not used to,
- Sure. But,
- even at it's base level,
it's just as easy as it is working with Vision which,
I really have to applaud your developers
that you're able to pull that off
to be honest with you. - Okay.
- Is there anything else you wanna talk about
in terms of what's coming down the pipe with Ignition,
ICC, any other big announcements that we
that you may or may not be able to share
with Don Pearson looking on?
- Sure. (laughing)
- Don Pearson's right there.
(laughing)
Chief Strategy Officer, if you guys aren't familiar.
What I can say,
so I can't say a lot of course but,
where we're at with Perspective right now would,
we have started doing a rolling-release cycle
which is speeding up our development process
and our development and release of new features
especially for early testing of new features,
where we have nightlies
that are going out every single night
for new betas of Ignition Eight.
And so we're really excited that the new features
that are coming,
8.01 is already is already in our CA,
8.02 betas out there and then 8.03, 8.04,
we already have features that are slated for those.
With Perspective right now,
there aren't 100% of the components
that exist inside Vision,
but we keep adding them - Okay.
- And we're going to keep improving Vision as well
of course so,
we see both of those products as really important
once going into the future
but ICC is in September,
we're going to be talking about a lot more things
at ICC of course,
and we're gonna be talking
- Early sign-ups now, right?
Every pit okay. - Every point wonder is
- Well, we sold out last year so I, you know
you can say that as a plug but,
I say it as a warning.
Please sign-up now if you want a ticket (laughs)
Yeah, we absolutely,
I expect we'll sell out again this year.
- So I just want to say,
Ignition Eight is a absolutely phenomenal accomplishment.
For people who are new to Ignition, we've been
the features that have come in Ignition Eight
and Perspective have been,
we've been requesting for a long time.
Not so much the tag engine,
that's value add but versions of
version control I mean is something we've been asking for
for a decade and you guys did a phenomenal job with it.
And Perspective, I mean,
you guys far exceeded expectations.
It's incredibly impressive, I gotta be honest with you.
- Oh yeah. I do appreciate your time, man
- Thanks, appreciate it. I appreciate it.
- See you all.
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