U.S. CITY IS PREPARING TO RE>>>
DIRECTION, THE DATA SHOWS WE ARE
MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AS WE REOPEN THE BASIC PUBLIC
HEALTH WE EMPHASIZED REMAINS
IMPORTANT.
WE FLATTENED THE CURVE, THAT
DOESN’T MEAN CORONAVIRUS HAS
GONE AWAY THAT IT’S ANY LESS
CONTAGIOUS OR DEADLY TO
COMMUNITIES.
>> THAT’S THE U.S. SURGEON
GENERAL WITH A WARNING ABOUT THE
VIRUS AND IT’S PLAYING OUT IN
TEXAS WHERE HOUSTON OFFICIALS
SAID THEY’RE PREPARING TO RE
REIMPOSE STAY-AT-HOME ORDERS AND
OPEN A HOSPITAL AT A FOOTBALL
STADIUM AFTER THE LONE STAR
STATE HAD THE HIGHEST ONE DAY
TALLY SINCE THE PANDEMIC
OCCURRED.
WE MAY BE APPROACHING THE
PRECIPICE OF A DISASTER, IT’S
OUT OF OUR HANDS RIGHT NOW, THE
GOOD NEWS IS IT’S NOT SEVERE OUT
OF HAND.
ANY PLAN TO REINSTATE LOCAL
LOCKDOWNS HOWEVER MAY HOLD
LITTLE LEGAL AUTHORITY AFTER
GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT ISSUED
EXECUTIVE ORDER TO RPEN THE
STATE THAT SUPER CEDED COUNTY
AND MUNICIPAL EFFORTS.
JOINING US IS DR. VIN GAMBLE AND
DR. GUPTA, HE’S TREATED
CORONAVIRUS PATIENTS IN
WASHINGTON STATE AND DR. DAVE,
I’LL START WITH YOU.
THERE ARE PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERTS
OPENLY WORRYING ABOUT A SECOND
WAVE.
WHAT ARE YOU HEARING AND HOW BIG
IS IT GOING TO BE COMPARED TO
THE FIRST WAVE?
>>, YOU KNOW, MIKA, IT’S NOT
EVEN A SECOND WAVE.
NOW WE’RE STARTING TO HEAR THAT
THE FIRST WAVE NEVER WENT AWAY
AND ALMOST HALF THE STATES IN
THIS COUNTRY ARE SEEING SPIKES.
THE LAST COUNT I SAW WAS 21, AND
IT’S GOING UP REGULARLY.
SO WE’RE SEEING SOME CITIES SHOW
THE HIGHEST COUNTS THEY’VE HAD
YET.
THIS SUMMER, WHERE WE THOUGHT
THE HEAT WOULD BRING SOME
SAFETY, IT ISN’T TURNING OUT TO
BE THE CASE.
IN FACT, A LOT OF THE STATES
THAT ARE HOTTER, THE STATES THAT
USE AIR CONDITIONERS ARE SEEING
SPIKES IN THEIR CASES AS WE
SPEAK, MIKA.
>> WILLIE?
>> DR. GUPTA, IT’S WILLIE, GOOD
TO HAVE YOU ON THIS MORNING.
OBVIOUSLY THE COUNTRY HAS
AVERTED ITS EYES TO ANOTHER
ISSUE FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS,
RIGHTLY SO BUT YOU AS A DOCTOR
HAVE NOT BEEN AVERTING YOUR EYES
YOU’RE WATCHING WHAT’S GOING ON
WITH CORONAVIRUS, WHAT CONTINUES
TO HAPPEN.
WHERE ARE WE RIGHT NOW?
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK WE
TURNED A CORNER AND IT MAY BE
SAFE TO GO BACK OUT AND RESUME
OUR LIVES THIS SUMMER, BUT HOW
DO YOU PUT IT?
WHERE ARE WE RIGHT NOW?
>> WHAT I WOULD SAY HERE IS --
YOU FLASHED THE SURGEON
GENERAL’S COMMENTS.
I’M NOT SURE WHERE HE’S GETTING
HIS DATA, MAYBE THE PRESIDENT OR
THE VICE PRESIDENT, BUT NOT DR.
FAUCI OR DR. BIRX BECAUSE THE
CURVE ISN’T FLATTENING IN 22
STATES AT LEAST.
GLOBALLY WE’RE SEEING ALARMING
FINDINGS NOT FAR FROM US,
BRAZIL, MEXICO.
AND IN PLACES LIKE EUROPE,
AFRICA AND ASIA.
WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE
GLOBAL LANDSCAPE WHICH MEANS ONE
THE FALL WAVE IS PROBABLY GOING
TO BE AN AUGUST WAVE.
ARE WE IN PHASE TWO OF THE FIRST
ONE?
DOESN’T SEEM LIKE IT REALLY WENT
AWAY.
UNLIKE MARCH WHEN THERE WAS AN
APPETITE TO SAY OKAY WE’LL YIELD
TO INTRUSIVE MEASURES ON OUR
LIVES, WE’LL NOT GO TO WORK.
AND THE ECONOMIC ATTACHMENT THAT
INCURRED.
WE DON’T HAVE THAT RUNWAY
ANYMORE.
WE DON’T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY
YOU HAVE TO STAY HOME OR MASK.
GOVERNOR KEMP IN GEORGIA SAYING
NO MORE MASKING IN RESTAURANTS,
MADE NO SENSE.
DR. CAMPBELL’S POINT,
TEMPERATURES IS NOT GOING TO
BRING A REPRIEVE.
I’M ABOUT TO GO TO A SHIFT IN
THE ICU, ARIZONA ICU’S ARE
COMPLETELY PACKED.
THAT TO US IS VERY WORRISOME
HERE.
YOU ADD PROTEST, PEOPLE’S LACK
OF APPETITE TO COMPLY WITH
MASKING ANYMORE, PEOPLE ARE
GETTING TIRED.
THIS IS ALARMING, WE’RE NOT
FLATTENING THE CURVE, THE CURVE
IS REEXPANDING AND WE NEED TO
TALK ABOUT ABOUT IT, AND THE
SURGEON GENERAL SHOULD BE AT THE
TIP OF THE SPEAR NOT TRYING TO
SAY IT’S BETTER.
>> IT’S BEEN FLATTENED IN SOME
OF THE HOT SPOTS LIKE NEW YORK
CITY WHICH GOT SO MUCH OF THE
ATTENTION IN THE EARLY DAYS AND
WEEKS OF THIS CRISIS.
SO WHAT DO WE DO NOW?
WE TALKED ABOUT TESTING FOR
THREE MONTHS.
THAT TALK HAS SORT OF SUBSIDED
AS IF TESTING IS READILY
AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE WHO WANTS
IT.
IS TESTING STILL THE MOST
IMPORTANT PART OF THE STORY,
DR. GUPTA, AND WHERE ARE WE ON
TESTING?
>> IT’S ALWAYS GOING TO BE
IMPORTANT AND THAT’S A FACT OF
LIFE IN A PANDEMIC.
I THINK THERE’S TWO THINGS WE
CAN DO UPFRONT, THREE THINGS
RATHER.
I DON’T THINK THIS IS EVER GOING
TO HAPPEN AT THIS POINT.
WE NEED THE PRESIDENT AND THE
VICE PRESIDENT TO NOT UNDERMINE
THE ADVERSARIES OF THE PUBLIC
HEALTH WORLD.
WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT ABOUT TO
HAVE A SUPER SPREADER EVENT IN
TULSA.
THE FACT HE’S ASKING FOR
INFORMED CONSENT OF HIS
SUPPORTERS IN A RALLY WHERE
THERE’S NO SOCIAL DISTANCING OR
MASKING IS EGREGIOUS.
THAT’S WHAT I DO BEFORE A
PROCEDURE IN THE ICU BECAUSE
THERE MIGHT BE HARM BUT THERE’S
BENEFIT.
WHAT’S THE POTENTIAL BENEFIT TO
THE SUPPORTERS.
WE NEED TO STOP THAT, BAN
POLITICAL RALLIES, ENCOURAGE
MASKING, MAKE IT MANDATORY, AND
CONTACT TRACING.
I’M WORRIED ABOUT THE ABILITY TO
SCALE CONTACT TRACING.
THAT REQUIRES PUBLIC TRUST.
I BELIEVE IN OUR INSTITUTIONS
AND LEADERSHIP, IF YOU DON’T
HAVE IT, IT DOESN’T MATTER IF
IT’S A
IT’S AN APP OR A HUMAN BEING.
THAT’S WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON,
THAT NEEDS HIGH LEVEL
LEADERSHIP.
>> I WANT TO EXTEND THE QUESTION
TO DR. DAVE, I KNOW HE HAS THE
SAME CONCERNS THAT DR. GUPTA
HAS.
BUT THERE ARE ALSO POLITICAL
PROTESTS TAKING PLACE AROUND THE
COUNTRY AND A LOT OF HEALTH
OFFICIALS HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN
THAT THE CORONAVIRUS CAN BE
SPREAD AMONG THOSE PROTESTS.
SO DR. DAVE, WHAT SHOULD PEOPLE
DO IF THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE
IN THESE PROTESTS OR GO TO A
RALLY TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.
IS IT POSSIBLE?
>> IT IS SOMEWHAT POSSIBLE.
I THINK THE FIRST THING THAT
THEY SHOULD DO IS, THINK
SERIOUSLY AND HARD ABOUT WHETHER
THEY SHOULD GO OR NOT.
THINK ABOUT WHETHER THEY HAVE
SOMEONE AT HOME THAT’S OLDER
THAT HAS AN UNDERLYING HEALTH
CONDITION.
THINK ABOUT WHETHER THEY’RE A
HEALTH CARE WORKER THAT HAS TO
GO BACK TO A CLINICAL AREA AND
MAY HAVE BEEN EXPOSED DURING A
PROTEST OR A RALLY OR AT A THEME
PARK -- THEME PARKS ARE OPENING
UP IN FLORIDA.
SO THE FIRST THING TO DO, IN MY
OPINION, IS THINK REALLY HARD
ABOUT WHAT YOU’RE ABOUT TO DO,
AND WEIGH, AS DR. GUPTA SAID,
THE RISK VERSUS THE BENEFIT.
AND THEN IF YOU GO, WEAR A MASK,
DON’T SHARE YOUR WATER, YOUR
FOOD, TRY TO SOCIALLY DISTANCE.
DR. WYNN TOLD US HOW YOU CAN
MAKE THESE BUDDY GROUPS WHERE
YOU HAVE SEVERAL PROTESTERS OR
FRIENDS OR FAMILY THAT YOU’RE
HANGING OUT WITH ANYHOW AND
STICK TOGETHER AND TRY TO
ISOLATE FROM OTHERS AROUND YOU
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, 6 FEET DOES
NOT SEEM TO BE EXISTING IN A
PROTEST.
AND WHEN YOU’RE ALL DONE WITH
YOUR PROTESTS OR YOUR THEME PARK
OR THE RALLY FOR PRESIDENT
TRUMP, GO GET TESTED.
GET TESTED SO YOU CAN KNOW
WHETHER YOU HAVE CONVERTED TO
BEING POSITIVE FOR THE
CORONAVIRUS SO YOU DON’T THEN
SPREAD IT TO OTHERS AT HOME OR
AT WORK OR AROUND YOU, MIKA.