SIMONA. IF YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF
IT'S AN EMERGING DISCIPLINE AT THE
HARDWARE, ELECTRIC MARKETS, AND
SOFTWARE ENGINEERING IS AN EMERGING
LOOK. HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT IS MY
>> NICE TO BE HERE. THANK YOU. >>
WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR ABOUT
WOKE UP TO THE CLIMATE CRISIS WE'RE
THAT WAS SENT TO ME WAS TO GO JOIN
TECH. WHY DON'T YOU TELL PEOPLE
COMMUNITY FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK IN
OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS GROUP WHO ARE
WE HAVE A CLEAR MISSION, MAKE CLIMATE
MORE EFFECTIVE. GENERALLY SPEAKING,
WHERE IF YOU WORK IN THIS INDUSTRY
YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO FIND OTHER
CAN WORK ON HOW TO APPLY THESE PRINCIPLES
ARGUMENTS TO BASICALLY BRING MORE
OF IT ABOUT WHERE THE LEVERS MAY
OF A RESPONSE THAT'S IN PROPORTION
FACING US WHEN WE THINK ABOUT CLIMATE.
I WASN'T THE FOUNDER. I FOUND OUT
WHO WERE RUNNING THIS IN AMERICA.
SOUND REALLY, REALLY COOL. I DON'T
COULD JUST GET IN TOUCH WITH THESE
JOINING CAUSE, ORGANIZING THINGS
WORKING IN THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE
AND EVENTS. THAT'S WHERE I MET ASIM
BOTH CO-ORGANIZERS OF CLIMATE ACTION
IN LIFE? >> CLIMATE ACTION TECH
AS A DIRECTOR OF THE GREEN WEB FOUNDATION.
GREEN WEB FOUNDATION MAY BE. WE
WE CAN TO MAKE THE WEB GREEN. I
DIGITAL TEAMS ASSESS AND IMPROVE
THEIR OWN SERVICES BECAUSE WE'RE
THE KIND OF VERY IMPORTANT THING
THOSE ARE THE THREE THINGS THAT
I DO A BIT OF ADVISORY WORK WITH
OTHER COMPANIES, BUT THOSE THINGS
CLIMATE ACTION TECH IS A LOT TO
OF WORK BEING THE ORGANIZER OF THAT
WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS
LOT ABOUT OVER THE LAST YEAR, AND
TIME WE HAVE A CONVERSATION, THIS
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS IN WHICH
IMPACT -- ENGINEERS, I SHOULD SAY,
THEIR WORK, IN THEIR INDUSTRY, AND
IN A MORE SUSTAINABLE WAY. ONE OF
TOGETHER IS THIS THING CALLED THE
ENGINEERING. WHAT I WANTED TO DO
AND A QUIZ WITH YOU WHERE WE TALK
IN FACT, IF YOU GO TO PRINCIPLES.
WE'VE DONE. WE'VE LISTED OUT THE
YOU HAVE TIME FOR THE FULL EIGHT
MAKE A GOOD STAB AT IT. [LAUGHTER].
OF SUSTAINABLE SOFTWARE ENGINEERING.
IT IT'S EMERGING AT SOFTWARE, HARDWARE,
IT'S A UNION OF A WHOLE BUNCH OF
IS THAT IF YOU CAN JUST GET LIKE
KNOWLEDGE, DOORS START OPENING UP
CAN BE A LOT MORE SUSTAINABLE IN
PRINCIPLES COME FROM. THE FIRST
IS CARBON, CHRIS? WHY DO WE EVEN
CARBON AS A PRINCIPLE? WELL, WE'RE
TOO MUCH CARBON IN THE ATMOSPHERE.
WE NEED TO -- I'M GOING TO GIVE
SIZING. WE BASICALLY OVER THE LAST
OF PROGRESS BY TAKING A LOT OF CARBON
IT AND PUTTING IT IN THE ATMOSPHERE
WE'RE NOW SEEING IT IN THE FORM
RELATED EFFECTS. NOW, EVERYTHING
ENERGY. HISTORICALLY, THAT COMES
AND BURNING IT. THAT'S FOR A LOT
A SITUATION WHERE IF WE WANT TO
WAYS OF DOING THE THINGS WE DO ENJOY,
AND THINGS LIKE THAT. DOING AWAY
SCIENTISTS HAVE SAID WE NEED TO
WE HAVE TO FIND OUT HOW TO KEEP
BUT IN WAYS THAT ARE MUCH MORE CARBON
SIDE EFFECT OF BASICALLY WORKING
DO. >> THAT'S EXACTLY IT. I THINK
I ALWAYS SAY THERE'S VERY, VERY
WITHOUT EMITTING CARBON IN SOME
OUR CHALLENGE, IS TO MAKE SURE EVERY
WE'VE GOT THE MAXIMUM VALUE OF THAT.
SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, IS WHEN YOU'RE
YOUR CHOICE SHOULD BE WHATEVER IS
IT LEADS, I THINK, TO THE SECOND
AN ENGINEER. I KNOW YOU'RE AN ENGINEER.
ARE ENERGY EFFICIENT. WHY IS ELECTRIC
THE REASON WE TALK ABOUT ELECTRICITY,
IT'S BASICALLY THE MAIN SOURCE OF
THERE ARE TWO LEVERS WE MAY HAVE.
IS GREENER. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF
LIKE MICROSOFT WHO NOW DO RUN A
POWER FROM GREEN SOURCES OR TAKE
OPTION IS TO BASICALLY USE LESS
YOU SOME IDEA, IN MANY CASES, THIS
THE POWER JUST LIKE ASIM JUST SAID.
MOST OF OUR SERVICES ARE IDLING.
IS QUITE COMMON FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE
SEVEN SERVERS AND ONLY USING ONE
THE OTHER SIX DOING NOTHING. NOW,
CLOUD IS THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A
A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT USERS, YOU
PEAKS OF INDIVIDUAL USE, SO IT ENDS
OF THIS SAME ENERGY. SO YOU GET
BECAUSE OF THIS, WE'VE SEEN A MASSIVE
THAT MUCH OF AN INCREASE IN TOTAL
THING. WE JUST NEED MORE OF THAT
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ELECTRICITY,
DON'T THINK OF IT AS DIRTY. THAT'S
WE PLUG INTO AN OIL SOCKET. THERE'S
HANDS DON'T GET DIRTY. WHEN I FIRST
ME IN THE FACE A LITTLE BIT. BUT
KNOW, YOU THINK, WELL, HANG ON.
I CAN DO WITH ELECTRICITY. I CAN
I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS
BUILDING APPLICATIONS, IF YOU'RE
TO DO, THEN ALWAYS CHOOSE THE OPTION
CHOOSE THE OPTION THAT'S THE MOST
MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT WITH ELECTRICITY,
TO CREATE THAT ELECTRICITY. BRINGING
TOPIC. I THINK YOU AND ME CAN PROBABLY
WHOLE DAY JUST ON CARBON INTENSITY.
AS THE THIRD PRINCIPLE, CONSUME
INTENSITY. >> I WILL TALK ABOUT
YOU CAN GET ENERGY FROM A NUMBER
ARE GOING TO BE MUCH DIRTIER THAN
MORE CARBON EMITTED FOR THE SAME
A LOT OF COAL, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE
OR WIND TURBINES OR SOMETHING LIKE
THERE. BUT IT'S ALSO WORTH WEARING
HAVE A MIX. THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVERS
MANY WAYS, IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ACCESS
THE AMOUNT OF CARBON INTENSITY WILL
IN THE WORLD AND WHAT TIME YOU ARE
A GOOD EXAMPLE WILL BE AT NIGHT.
CARBON INTENSITY BECAUSE YOU'RE
OF SODA. YOU WILL HAVE SOME PEOPLE
TO BASICALLY MAKE SURE THAT ALL
GO INTO IT THAT WE CAN USE IS IN
DEMAND WE HAVE. IN MANY CASES, YOU
OF DEMAND ON THE GRID, YOU WILL
WILL SEE CARBON ELECTRICITY BEING
WAYS OF NEEDING POWER AT THE PEAK,
GREENER POWER. THERE ARE TIMES YOU
PRICES LARGELY BECAUSE THE GRID
GENERATED, AND THE PEOPLE RUNNING
WAYS TO GET PEOPLE TO HELP BALANCE
BALANCING -- TO CREATE THIS BALANCE.
ADVANTAGE OF AS DEVELOPERS. IF WE
PLACES AND DIFFERENT TIMES, THEN
RUN IN THE LONG RUN. THERE'S A LOAD
HAND IT BACK TO ASIM BECAUSE I NARROW
AND THERE ARE A LOAD OF DIFFERENT
WILL HAND IT BACK TO YOU BEFORE
ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT FASCINATES
DIFFERENTLY. THERE'S A NUMBER CALLED
PER KILOWATT HOW ARE, WHICH IT IS
ELECTRICITY IS. IN DIFFERENT REGIONS,
OF DIFFERENT COAL OR GAS OR SOMETHING
HIGHER. IN OTHER REGIONS, IT MAY
FLOWS AND THE WIND INCREASES AND
-- THAT'S THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT
OF CODE, NOTHING, JUST BY MAKING
YOU RUN YOUR WORKLOAD, YOU CAN BUILD
THAT'S WHY I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT
WHAT GIVES ME GOOSEBUMPS AS WELL.
A PAPER RELEASED LAST YEAR. WHAT
BUILT AN EXTENSION TO KUBERNETES
AND CHEAP. THEY ENDED UP USING --
CLOUDS. I THINK THIS PARTICULAR
THEY BLASICALLY USED THIS INFORMATION
ON WHERE ENERGY WAS CHEAP AND WAS
INTO KUBERNETES THE WAY KUBERNETES
THAT ARE ACTING ON THIS. THERE'S
THEY ALLOW YOU THE TAKE PART IN
LIKE A KUBERNETES OR DIFFERENT KINDS
TO ALLOW YOU INTO THE GRID IN THE
GENERATING POWER AND SELLING IT
THING FOR EXE COMPUTING. YOU WILL
NOW THAT ARE STARTING TO DO THIS.
YOU THINK ABOUT HOW SPOT MARKETS
SEE SO MANY PARALLELS WITH POW WE
WAYS, THERE ARE SO MANY PARALLELS
ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE A RELATIVELY
A SURPLUS OF ENERGY IN ONE PLACE,
GRID IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE MIGHT,
OF A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT NETWORKS.
THERE'S A WAY TO DO THIS IN AMERICA,
ANY KIND OF UNDERSTANDING OF INTERNET,
THERE'S SO MUCH INTERESTING STUFF
THIS IS THE THING THAT ME AND ASIM,
ABOUT NOW. >> IT'S FASCINATING.
WORLD BEHIND THE REAL WORLD OF THIS
GOT SOME REALLY INTERESTING QUESTIONS
I THOUGHT I COULD ASK YOU SOME OF
IS HOW CAN WEB DEVELOPERS HELP AND
ENGINEERING? >> I CAN GIVE YOU A
KIND OF A SMALL-BUT-GROWING COMMUNITY
A W3C SUSTAINABLE WEB INTEREST DESIGN
WEB MANIFESTO, THERE'S A MANIFESTO
NUMBER OF BOOKS WHERE YOU CAN LEARN
A BOOK BY TIM FRICK CALLED DESIGN
YEARS AGO. I KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER
THIS IS WHY WE KIND OF SPEND THE
FIELD. PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP TO THE
PRETTY MUCH MOST OF THE TOOLS YOU
MORE ACCESSIBLE, ALSO HAVE THE EFFECT
WEBSITE IS A WEBSITE THAT COULD
DON'T NEED TO UPGRADE SO MUCH. ALSO,
FACT THAT SENDING DATA USES ENERGY,
FUELS. IN MANY CASES, IF YOU'RE
SENDING OVER THE WIRE, NOT ONLY
IT'S GREENER. WE'VE TAKEN SOME WEB
MADE IT POSSIBLE TO WORK OUT THE
YOU CAN OPTIMIZE THAT. YOU CAN TOTALLY
AS WELL. YOU CAN LOOK AND SEE THE
ON A WEB DEVELOPER LEVEL AND YOU
APPLIES ON THE SERVICE SIDE AS WELL.
TO THE WEBSITE AND SEE THE WORK
THE TOPIC, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO
SUSTAINABLE SOFTWARE ENGINEERING.
JUST BEFORE WE HEAD OFF, WE'RE STARTING
AS WE GROW THE FIELD OF SUSTAINABLE
SO MUCH, CHRIS, FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
THE BREAK, WE'LL BE BUILDING A WEB
DECIDED THAT WE NEEDED TO MOVE INTO
OF ALL THE CAPABILITIES THAT OUR
MICROSOFT. WE'VE HAD A PHENOMENAL
BUILT OUR PRODUCT ON . NET AND WORKED
THE AZURE COMPONENTS ITSELF LOOK
GOOGLE CLOUD. WHAT WE'VE REALIZED
TO DEPLOY OUR SOLUTION WITHIN MINUTES.
CONTRACT CLOSURE. THE LEAPS AND
REGIONS AND DOING THE PRIMARY AND
FOR US. WITHOUT AZURE, WITHOUT THE
ABILITY TO DEPLOY INTO THESE NEW
ABLE TO DO IT. >> WELCOME BACK.
WHO IS HERE TO DISCUSS BUILDING
YOU DOING TODAY? >> I'M DOING GREAT.
HELLO, EVERYONE. WELCOME TO A SESSION
IS FOR EVERYONE. I'M SUPER EXCITED
WE'RE INTERVIEWING FOLKS FROM THE
KNOW, TODAY IS NOT ABOUT ME. TODAY
CODER. DO YOU WANT TO TELL US ABOUT
>> YES. I'M IN COSTA RICA, CURRENTLY.
FOR FOUR YEARS, SELF-TAUGHT. GOT
WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TODAY.
YOURSELF AND WHERE YOU'RE BASED?
IS SEGUN. I'M BASED IN DUBAI. I'M
I WORK CURRENTLY AT TRILLIAN. COM.
DENY THIS. THIS HAS BEEN AN AMAZING
WITH EVERYONE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY
CREATOR, GIFT EGWUENU. DO YOU WANT
YOU'RE BASED? >> YEAH, SURE. THANKS,
GIFT EGWUENU. I'M AN ENGINEER AND
BE HERE. >> NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE,
OF EVERYONE'S FAVORITE -- I MEAN
DO YOU WANT TO TELL US MORE. I CAN
DOCS PAGE. DO YOU WANT TO TELL US
YOU'RE COMING FROM TODAY? >> THANK
SELF-TAUGHT DEVELOPER FOR 14 YEARS
10 YEARS. LIKE CHRIS SAID, I'M THE
MAKING THE WEB DEVELOPMENT AS INTUITIVE
APPLICATION WITH REND RING AS WELL
SEBASTIAN. IT'S SUPER EXCITING.
HERE. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT
TO MAKE MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS. WE'VE
TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE EXCITED
ONE OF THE BIGGEST FEATURES IS MOSTLY
IS BECAUSE BASED ON THE FACT THAT
PEOPLE WHOA WANT -- PEOPLE WHO WANT
I HAVE TO LITERALLY GUIDE THEM ON
THAT. KNOWING THAT I CAN LITERALLY
BROWSER AND LITERALLY CONTRIBUTE
AMAZING FOR ME. >> IT'S SUPER EXCITING.
WELL, BUT THERE'S ALSO A VOICE FEATURE.
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WALK PEOPLE THROUGH
CODE ENVIRONMENT AND ALSO TALK ABOUT
CHRISTINA? >> I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE.
SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN TRYING -- YOU
TO CONTRIBUTE TO OPEN SOURCE, I
IN AND SOMEONE WHO HAS THESE OPEN-SOURCE
A CODE SPACE TO WORK WITH. >> AMAZING.
I'M LOADING THE AZURE APPS. I'VE
PLAY AROUND, BEING A HUGE FAN OF
KNOW THIS IS OUT THERE. >> AMAZING.
DO YOU HAVE A FAVORITE ANNOUNCEMENT
IS QUITE HEAVY. IT'S REALLY, REALLY
CODE USED TO WORK WITH THE LIVE
>> AMAZING. I'M HAPPY ALL THE WORK
TO HELP THEM GET THEIR DAY-TO-DAY
TALK ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY TODAY.
-- I MEAN, LITERALLY EVERYONE SHOULD
WEBSITES. DO YOU BELIEVE WE SHOULD
OR SHOULD IT JUST BE FOR SENIOR
YOU. I PERSONALLY HAD A GOOD TIME
REGARDLESS OF YOUR LEVEL OF SENIORITY,
OF YOUR CAREER AND THERE'S A LOVE
WERE DIFFERENT PLATFORMS, BUT IT
ACTUALLY HAVE ACCESSIBILITY AS THE
COLUMN BECAUSE IT WILL HELP GET
STAGE SO YOU CAN VIEW MORE ACCESSIBLE
TO BREACH ACCESSIBILITY IS SO WE
WE'RE BUILDING APPLICATIONS FOR
BE ABLE TO USE IT. REGARDLESS IF
DEVELOPER, SENIOR DEVELOPER, YOU
>> THANK YOU, GIFT. I REALLY LOVE
" IT'S NOT AS EASY FOR PEOPLE TO
MAKE SENSE OF IMAGES. ARE THERE
PRODUCT TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPERS
I KNOW SEGUN, YOU DO A LOT OF ACCESSIBILITY
INTO THE SYSTEM TO HELP WITH SITUATIONS
THINGS WE TRY TO DO IS TO HELP BUILD
WE CREATE. TO BE HONEST, THE SUBJECT
THERE'S THE SIMPLE SCENARIO, JUST
OR MAKING SURE YOU DON'T USE SPECIFIC
AT KEYBOARD FOCUS MANAGEMENT OR
CAN BE ACCESSED VIA KEYBOARD, NOT
MORE COMPLICATED AREAS. WHAT WE
CONSIDERATIONS INTO ALMOST ALL COMPONENTS.
THAT EXISTS IS FULLY ACCESSIBLE.
SO THEY TRY THE USE COMPONENTS IN
AMAZING. THAT'S FANTASTIC. CHRISTIAN,
A DEVELOPER TO DO TO MAKE IT MORE
DEVELOPERS MAKE THEIR IMAGES MORE
I CAN SAY ONE THING, IT'S SIMILAR
YOU CAN GIVE IT A TITLE AND A ROLE.
>> AMAZING. SPEAKING OF SVGS AND
I NEED? MATHEMATICS? THIS QUESTION
YOU COULD USE MATH AND BE ARTISTIC
TO. I'M NOT AN ARTIST. I LIKE TO
NOT AN ARTIST. UNDER THE HOOD, IT'S
HUMAN RED -- READABLE. YOU CAN READ
JAVASCRIPT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE
YOU CAN BE CREATIVE ON THE WEB.
PROFESSIONALS TO BRING THEIR CREATIVITY
DO AMAZING THINGS WITH THEIR SKILLS.