WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM. IM MEGYN KELLY.
HERES WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW
TODAY.
IN THE NEWS THIS MORNING, FASHION DESIGNER DONNA KARAN.
HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THIS STORY?
JUST A FEW PEOPLE.
PAY ATTENTION.
OKAY?
DONNA KARAN, IN THE WAKE OF
DISTURBING ALLEGATIONS BY HARVEY WEINSTEIN HARASSING SEVERALARVEY
WEINSTEIN HARASSING SEVERAL WOMEN, USED THE POWER OF HER
VOICE TO ATTACK WOMEN.
IN AN INTERVIEW WITH THE
THEDAILYMAIL.COM, SHE WAS ASKED ABOUT HARVEY WEINSTEIN, WHO SHE
DESCRIBED AS A WONDERFUL PERSON.
AND SHE RAISED THE BURNING
QUESTION HERE.
ARE WOMEN WHO ARE GETTING HARASSED, QUOTE, ASKING FOR IT.
WATCH THIS.
WATCH THIS. WATCH.
WATCH.
>> HOW DO WE DISPLAY OURSELVES?
HOW DO WE PRESENT OURSELVES AS WOMEN? WE PRESENT OURSELVES AS
WOMEN?
WHAT ARE WE ASKING?
ARE WE ASKING FOR IT? YOU KNOW, BY PRESENTING ALL THE
SENSUALITY AND SEXUALITY.
ITS NOT HARVEY WEINSTEIN.
YOU LOOK AT EVERYTHING ALL OVER THE WORLD TODAY AND HOW WOMENER
THE WORLD TODAY AND HOW WOMEN ARE DRESSING AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT
THEYRE ASKING.
THEYRE ASKING. BY JUST PRESENTING THEMSELVES
THE WAY THEY DO.
WHAT ARE THEY ASKING FOR?
TROUBLE.
TROUBLE. >> TROUBLE?
>> TROUBLE? JUST YESTERDAY ON THE PROGRAM,
WE HAD REPORTER LAUREN SIVAN.
A BROADCAST JOURNALIST WHO SAID
SHE MET MR. WEINSTEIN AT A
RESTAURANT TEN YEARS AGO.
AND SHE ALLEGES THAT HE CORNERED
HER IN A VESTIBULE THERE.
TRIED TO KISS HER.
WAS REJECTED.
WAS REJECTED. AND THEN --
>> I HAD NO IDEA IT WAS GOING TO
HAPPEN.
HAPPEN.
AND IT HAPPENED VERY QUICKLY. HE IMMEDIATELY EXPOSED HIMSELF
AND -- YOU KNOW, BEGAN
PLEASURING HIMSELF.
PLEASURING HIMSELF. AND I JUST STOOD THERE
DUMBFOUNDED.
DUMBFOUNDED.
AND ALSO, THERES THAT FEELING
THAT IM SURE SO MANY WOMEN FEEL OF SHAME.URE SO MANY WOMEN FEEL
OF SHAME. OF, PERHAPS, I DID SOMETHING TO
GIVE HIM THE WRONG IMPRESSION.
MAYBE I WAS FLIRTY OR MAYBE I
GAVE HIM THE WRONG IMPRESSION.
AND THATS WHY THIS HAPPENED.
>> WEIRDLY, I NEVER THOUGHT TO
ASK LAUREN IF HER SKIRT BROUGHT
ON THAT VESTIBULE INCIDENT
BECAUSE HER OUTFIT IS TOTALLY
IRRELEVANT AND MOST RATIONAL
PEOPLE KNOW THAT.
MISS KARAN IS TRYING TO WALK
BACK HER STATEMENT.
MY STATEMENTS WERE TAKEN OUT OF
CONTEXT AND I DO NOT REPRESENT
HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE CURRENT
SITUATION CONCERNING HARVEY
WEINSTEIN.
WEINSTEIN.
I BELIEVE THAT SEXUAL HARASSMENT
IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND SHOULD BE ADDRESSED ONCE AND FOR ALLLD BE
ADDRESSED ONCE AND FOR ALL
REGARDLESS OF THE INDIVIDUAL. THEY DONT REPRESENT WHAT SHE.
THEY DONT REPRESENT WHAT SHE FEELS OR WHAT SHE BELIEVES.
AND IT WAS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.
REALLY?
REALLY?
>> YOU LOOK AT EVERYTHING ALL OVER THE WORLD TODAY.HING ALL
OVER THE WORLD TODAY. HOW WOMEN ARE DRESSING.
YOU KNOW, WHAT THEYRE ASKING.
BY JUST PRESENTING THEMSELVES
THE WAY THEY DO.
WHAT ARE THEY ASKING FOR?
TROUBLE.
TROUBLE. >> UNFORTUNATELY, SHE IS NOT THE
ONLY ONE WHO APPARENTLY THINKS
THIS WAY.
THIS WAY.
AND IT IS WRONG. ITS SERIOUSLY WRONG.
LETS BE PERFECTLY CLEAR RIGHT
NOW.
NOW.
WOMEN SOMETIMES MAKE BAD FASHION
CHOICES, INCLUDING AT THE
OFFICE.
THIS DOES NOT INVITE THEIR OWN HARASSMENT.OT INVITE THEIR OWN
HARASSMENT.
PERIOD.
END OF REPORT.
[ APPLAUSE ]
THERE ARE LAWS IN THIS COUNTRY.
LAWS.
I DONT GIVE A DAMN IF A WOMAN
SHOWS UP IN A BIKINI TO THE
OFFICE.
IT MAKES IT OKAY FOR HER BOSS TO SAY, GO HOME AND CHANGE. BOSS TO
SAY, GO HOME AND CHANGE. THATS IT.
THATS IT. THE TRUTH IS, SEXUAL HARASSMENT
HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WARDROBE.
IT HAS TO DO WITH POWER AND
CONTROL AND SEXUAL PROCLIVITIES
THAT A SUPERIOR CHOOSES NOT TO
REIN IN.
REIN IN.
HOW INSULTING, BY THE WAY, TO
MEN, AS WELL.
LIKE THEY ARE A BUNCH OF ANIMALS WHO CANNOT BEHAVE IF A WOMANMALS
WHO CANNOT BEHAVE IF A WOMAN SHOWS PART OF A THIGH.
RIGHT?
RIGHT?
THIS ATTITUDE OF BLAMING WOMEN
FOR THEIR OWN HARASSMENT IS ONE
OF THE REASONS WHY WOMEN CHOOSE
NOT TO COME FORWARD AFTER THEY
GET HARASSED BECAUSE THEY FEAR
VICTIM SHAMING.
THEY FEAR IT.
THEY KNOW ITS GOING TO HAPPEN.
HOW ABOUT WE NOT PILE ON, DONNA.
HOW ABOUT WE USE THIS MOMENT TO
ENCOURAGE WOMEN TO FIND THEIR OWN VOICES, DESPITE THE RISKS
AND TO STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES,
WHICH THE HARD ENOUGH, WITHOUT
RICH, POWERFUL, WELL-CONNECTED
FASHION MOGULS LECTURING THEM ON
THEIR FASHION CHOICES.
AND SPEAK OF FASHION CHOICES,
HERES ONE FOR YOU.
IM DONE WITH DANA KARAN.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
HEARING ME OUT.
HAD TO GET THAT OFF MY CHEST.
[ APPLAUSE ]
I FEEL BETTER.
I WANT HER TO COME ON. I WANT HER TO COME ON.
I WANT HER TO COME ON RIGHT
HERE, ESPECIALLY AFTER WHAT I
SAID.
SAID.
AND WE CAN HAVE AN HONEST DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW SHE REALLY
FEELS.
FEELS.
IF SHE WAS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT, IF SHE DOESNT BELIEVE THAT WAY,,
IF SHE DOESNT BELIEVE THAT WAY, EXPLAIN THOSE COMMENTS.
LETS TALK ABOUT IT.
THE MESSAGING TO WOMEN IS ALL
WRONG.
>>> MOVING ON TO OTHER STORIES
IN THE NEWS TODAY.
HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THE DUST-UP BETWEEN OUR ACTUAL FIRST LADY-UP
BETWEEN OUR ACTUAL FIRST LADY AND THE FIRST MRS. TRUMP?
HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THIS?
IT STARTED AS IVANA TRUMP, NOT
IVANKA.
IVANKA. IVANKA IS THE DAUGHTER.
IVANA IS THE FIRST WIFE.
SHE WAS PROMOTING HER FIRST
BOOK.
BOOK. AND IN PARTICULAR SOMETHING SHE
SAID GOT UNDER THE SKIN OF
SOMEONE AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
>> HOW OFTEN DO YOU TWO TALK?
>> ABOUT ONCE EVERY 14 DAYS.
I HAVE THE DIRECT NUMBER OF THE
WHITE HOUSE.
WHITE HOUSE.
I DONT WANT TO CALL HIM THERE BECAUSE MELANIA IS THERE.HERE
BECAUSE MELANIA IS THERE. I DONT WANT TO CAUSE JEALOUSY
THERE.
THERE.
IM FIRST TRUMP WIFE.
IM FIRST LADY. >> IM FIRST LADY, SHE SAID.
SO, FOR MORE ON THIS, WERE
JOINED BY MY NBC NEWS COLLEAGUE
KATIE TUR WHO GOT TO KNOW THE
TRUMP CAMP.
TRUMP CAMP.
AND SHE GOT TO PUT IT IN HER UNBELIEVABLE BEST SELLER.HER
UNBELIEVABLE BEST SELLER. COME ON OUT, KATY.
[ APPLAUSE ] THAT DID NOT GO OVER WELL AT THE
WHITE HOUSE.
WHITE HOUSE.
>> NO.
>> THE FIRST LADYS
COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR ISSUED A STATEMENT.ION DIRECTOR ISSUED A
STATEMENT. IT GOES ON.
BUT THERES NO SUBSTANCE TO THE
STATEMENT FROM AN EX.
THIS IS ATTENTION-SEEKING AND
SELF-SERVING NOISE.
SELF-SERVING NOISE.
>> IT SEEMS ODD. THATS A VERY SERIOUS STATEMENT,
FOR WHAT FELT LIKE A PRETTY
LIGHTHEARTED QUIP.
LIGHTHEARTED QUIP.
YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, MELANIA IS IN A UNIQUE SITUATION.MELANIA IS
IN A UNIQUE SITUATION. NO OTHER FIRST LADY HAS HAD AN
EX-WIFE FOR THE PRESIDENT TO
DEAL WITH.
DEAL WITH.
>> THATS TRUE. THIS IS THE FIRST DIVORCED
PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT.
I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT. >> THE FIRST DIVORCED PRESIDENT.
SHES THE FIRST LADY.
BUT ALSO THE THIRD WIFE.
AND SHES THE SECOND STEPMOM TO
DONALD TRUMPS VERY HIGH-PROFILE
CHILDREN, ONE OF WHOM IS IN THE
WHITE HOUSE.
WHITE HOUSE.
I CALLED A FEW OF MY SOURCES TO
FIND OUT WHAT PRECIPITATED THIS AND WHY SUCH A STRONG RESPONSE.
>> MELANIA NEVER SPEAKS.
SHE DOESNT COME OUT WITH
STATEMENTS EVER.
STATEMENTS EVER. >> SHE DOESNT COME OUT.
SHE DOESNT MAKE WAVES.
SHES BEEN BEHIND THE SCENES.
SHE HASNT LIKED THE ATTENTION
THATS COME ALONG WITH HER
HUSBANDS CAMPAIGN AND NOW HIS
PRESIDENCY.
PRESIDENCY.
SHE NEVER PLANNED FOR IT.
BUT THEY SAID THIS IS -- THESE
ARE LONG, SIMMERING TENSIONS THAT GO WELL BEYOND WHAT IVANA
MAY HAVE SAID IN THE INTERVIEW.
THERE MAY BE SOME DISCOMFORT
THERE, WITH HAVING HER BE IN A
MORE HIGH-PROFILE MOMENT WITH
THESE INTERVIEWS THAT SHES
DOING, IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE
BOOK.
BOOK.
BUT THIS IS TENSION THATS BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE LONGER. BEEN
THERE FOR A WHILE LONGER. >> THE THING I FOUND IRRITATING
WAS IN IVANAS STATEMENT, WAS I
AM REALLY FIRST LADY.
BUT I DONT INVOLVE MELANIA.
I DONT CALL TOO OFTEN BECAUSE I
DONT WANT TO MAKE HER JEALOUS.
RIGHT?
RIGHT?
HOW ANNOYING WOULD THAT BE AS THE -- TO SUGGEST THAT THATSS
THE -- TO SUGGEST THAT THATS POSSIBLE.
POSSIBLE.
SUGGEST THERES A FRACTURE IN
YOUR RELATIONSHIP.
>> WELL, I MEAN, IVANA HAD A HIGH-PROFILE HUMILIATION WHEN HE
LEFT HER FOR MARLA MAPLES.
AND IT WAS SPLASHED ALL OVER THE
TABLOIDS.
TABLOIDS.
AND SHE HAS HAD TO COMBAT THAT FOR QUITE A WHILE. COMBAT THAT
FOR QUITE A WHILE. AND HOLDS HER OWN IN THIS WORLD
THAT PEOPLE WANT TO SAY WAS
ENTIRELY CREATED BY DONALD
TRUMP.
TRUMP.
WHEN SHE SAYS, LOOK, I RAN A BUSINESS.SAYS, LOOK, I RAN A
BUSINESS.
I RAISED THESE KIDS.
>> SHES LIKE, I RAISED THEM. DONALD DOESNT DESERVE THAT..
DONALD DOESNT DESERVE THAT. >> SHE DID SAY THAT.
HE BASICALLY DIDNT TALK TO THEM
UNTIL THEY WERE 18.
>> MY PRODUCERS ARE REMINDING ME
THAT RONALD REAGAN, THE GIPPER,