>> Bill: HOUSE DEMOCRATS
DEMANDING THE RELEASE OF
MATERIAL BEHIND A WHISTLEBLOWER
COMPLAINT INVOLVING PRESIDENT
TRUMP AND HIS COMMUNICATION
WITH A FOREIGN LEADER.
THE PRESIDENT FIRING BACK
CALLING THE STORY FAKE NEWS.
WANT TO BRING IN TREY GOWDY.
WELCOME TO OUR PROGRAM.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE
PRESIDENT IS HOLDING WHAT THEY
CALL A SPRAY INSIDE THE OVAL
OFFICE.
WE'LL GET A PLAY-OUT IN THE
MOMENT.
WE MIGHT GET INTERRUPTED.
HE HAS BEEN ASKED ABOUT THE
WHISTLEBLOWER STORY AND CALLS
IT FAKE NEWS AND SUGGESTS IT
WAS A PARTISAN WHISTLEBLOWER.
WE'LL WAIT FOR THAT IN A MOMENT.
ANDREW MCCABE SAYS THIS
WHISTLEBLOWER SHOWS IN HIS
WORDS GREAT COURAGE.
HE SAID THIS ON CNN.
>> THIS IS SOMEONE WHO
ESSENTIALLY DID WHAT WE HOPE
ALL PEOPLE SERVING IN THE
GOVERNMENT WILL DO.
STEPPED FORWARD, USED THE
APPROPRIATE PROCESS, IN A
CLASSIFIED AND CONFIDENTIAL
MANNER TO BRING THEIR CONCERNS
TO THE APPROPRIATE OFFICIALS.
THAT TAKES INCREDIBLE COURAGE.
IT IS HARD TO STAND UP TO AN
ADMINISTRATION, STAND UP
PARTICULARLY TO THIS
ADMINISTRATION AND THIS
PRESIDENT.
>> Bill: WE JUST WANTED TO ROLL
THAT OUT AND GET YOU TO RESPOND.
TREY, GO AHEAD.
>> I DOUBT ANY ANDY MCCABE HAS
ANY IDEA WHAT THE CONTENT OF
THE PHONE CALL WAS OR HOW
COURAGEOUS THE WHISTLEBLOWER.
I WARNED PEOPLE WEEKS AGO IF
ADAM SCHIFF CONTINUED TO BE THE
CHAIRPERSON OF THE HOUSE
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE WHO IS
ONE OF THE MOST DEEPLY PARTISAN
MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE,
EVENTUALLY PEOPLE WOULD STOP
SHARING INFORMATION WITH THE
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE AND
APPARENTLY THAT'S WHAT'S
HAPPENED.
SO IF NANCY PELOSI WANTS THIS
INFORMATION GIVEN TO CONGRESS
SHE SHOULD PICK A LESS PARTISAN
PERSON TO BE THE CHAIRPERSON OF
THAT COMMITTEE.
>> Bill: WHAT DO YOU THINK IS
GOING ON WITH THIS STORY?
>> A COUPLE OF THINGS.
I THINK CONGRESS HAS LOTS OF
TOOLS TO GET INFORMATION FROM
THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.
DIDN'T THEY JUST PASS A BUDGET
RESOLUTION THIS WEEK?
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
THEY COULD HAVE SAID YOU WON'T
GET THE MONEY UNTIL WE GET THE
WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT.
CONGRESS HAS PLENTY OF TOOLS
BUT WHEN YOU PUT SOMEONE WHO IS
WRONG AS OFTEN AS ADAM SCHIFF
IS WRONG AND DEEPLY PARTISAN AS
HE IS IN CHARGE OF THE
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE, NO, YOU
AREN'T GOING TO SHARE
CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION
BECAUSE ADAM LEAKS LIKE A SIEVE.
THAT'S THE CONSEQUENCE OF
PUTTING SOMEONE THAT PARTISAN
AS THE HEAD OF THAT COMMITTEE.
>> Julie: BILL JUST MENTIONED
THE POOL SPRAY WE'RE ABOUT TO
RECEIVE.
WE HAVE SOME ROUGH NOTES OF
WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID WHEN HE
WAS ASKED ABOUT THE
WHISTLEBLOWER AND I'LL QUOTE.
HE SAYS IT'S A RIDICULOUS
STORY, PARTISAN WHISTLEBLOWER,
CONVERSATIONS WITH LEADERS
ALWAYS APPROPRIATE.
HIGHEST LEVEL.
I FIGHT SO STRONGLY FOR THE
COUNTRY.
ANOTHER POLITICAL HACK JOB
TALKING ABOUT HOW THERE IS
NOTHING WRONG WITH THE LEADER
OF THE FREE WORLD TALKING TO
OTHER LEADERS OF OTHER
COUNTRIES.
THE QUESTION IS WAS THERE A
PROMISE MADE?
WE DON'T KNOW.
EVERYBODY IS SPECULATING A
PROMISE WAS MADE.
THERE WAS A WHISTLEBLOWER.
WE DON'T KNOW THE FACTS YET.
WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE THE FACTS
TO BE HERE?
>> NO IDEA, JULIE.
I WOULD BE DOING YOU A
DISSERVICE IF I GUESSED.
I THINK WE HAVE TO GET TO THE
POINT IN OUR POLITICAL CULTURE
WHERE WE DON'T SPECULATE.
THERE IS A TRANSCRIPT SO WE
DON'T HAVE TO WONDER WHAT WAS
SAID.
I THINK WHAT DOES FRUSTRATE
PEOPLE IS I SEEM TO RECALL A
PRESIDENT WHO SAID I'LL HAVE
MORE FLEXIBILITY IN A SECOND
TERM.
WE DON'T HAVE TO WONDER ABOUT
THAT.
THAT'S ON TAPE.
I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A
SIMILAR LEVEL OF OUTRAGE WHEN
PRESIDENT OBAMA PROMISED THAT
TO THE RUSSIAN PRESIDENT AS
THERE IS NOW.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID.
>> Bill: LET'S TALK ABOUT JAMES
COMEY NOW.
THE QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR
NOT HE WILL FACE THE
POSSIBILITY OF PROSECUTION.
MARK MEADOWS FROM OUR SHOW JUST
YESTERDAY ON COMEY.
>> THE ONLY THING THAT HAS BEEN
CONSISTENT ABOUT DIRECTOR JAMES
COMEY IS HIS WILLINGNESS TO GO
AFTER THIS PRESIDENT.
ONE OF THE IRREGULARITIES IS
THAT JAMES COMEY ACTUALLY SAID
THAT NOTHING THAT HAPPENED
ACTUALLY AFFECTED THE
INVESTIGATION AND WE SEE IN THE
REPORT WE SAW THAT
CONVERSATIONS HE HAD CHANGED
THE ACTION HE TOOK TRYING TO
LEAK THINGS TO GET THE SPECIAL
PROSECUTOR INSTALLED AND CALLED
INTO ACTION.
>> Bill: THAT LEADS TO THE
OBVIOUS QUESTION HERE ONCE WE
GET THE I.G.'S REPORT, WHICH IS
STILL WE BELIEVE A FEW WEEKS
AWAY.
DO YOU BELIEVE JAMES COMEY WILL
FACE PROSECUTION, YES OR NO?
>> NO, I DON'T.
AND I THINK AGAIN WE ARE
SETTING THE WRONG STANDARD IN
OUR CULTURE WHEN WE SAY
EVERYTHING IS FINE UNLESS YOU
ARE INDICTED.
COMEY HAS BEEN DINGED IN TWO
I.G. REPORTS AND FOUND TO
VIOLATE HIS EMPLOYMENT
AGREEMENT, HE LEAKED CLASSIFIED
INFORMATION TO HIS ATTORNEY.
WHY IS ALL OF THAT NOT ENOUGH
FOR HIM TO BE JUDGED POORLY BY
HISTORY?
WHY DOES IT TAKE AN INDICTMENT?
HE WON'T BE INDICTED.
IF THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE EXPECT
THEY'LL BE DISAPPOINTED.
I WOULD RATHER SET REASONABLE
EXPECTATIONS.
HE WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY THE
METE OUT WHATEVER PUNISHMENT
THEY WANT.
>> Bill: A STAIN ON SOME
LEADING MEMBERS OF THE
ADMINISTRATION.
IS THAT WHERE WE ARE IN THE END?
>> I THINK IT IS AND AT SOME
LEVEL THAT WILL HAVE TO BE
ENOUGH.
AGAIN, WE CANNOT LIVE IN A
CULTURE WHERE EVERYTHING IS
FINE IF YOU NARROWLY AVOID
INDICTMENT.
I THINK PEOPLE HAVE HIGHER
EXPECTATIONS FOR THEIR PUBLIC
SERVANTS AND THEIR ELECTED
OFFICIALS THAN FOR THEM TO GO
AROUND TWEETING I WASN'T
INDICTED.
I JUST THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE
HIGHER EXPECTATIONS.
I DON'T THINK HE WILL BE
INDICTED.
WHAT DID WE FIND OUT FROM THE
GREG CRAIG CASE?
IT'S HARD TO GET A CONVICTION
EVEN IF YOU ARE INDICTED.
SO THERE HAS TO BE A DIFFERENT
STANDARD OTHER THAN PRISON OR
NOTHING.
>> Julie: THE INSPECTOR GENERAL
SAYS HE WILL ASSESS
REPUBLICAN'S ALLEGATIONS.
YOU SAY YOU DON'T THINK HE WILL
BE INDICTED.
ANYTHING NOT BEING DONE THAT
SHOULD BE DONE?
WHAT MORE NEEDS TO BE DONE HERE?
>> MY FELLOW CITIZENS NEED TO
HAVE OTHER WAYS OF ASSIGNING A
CONSEQUENCE OTHER THAN
INDICTMENT.
MICHAEL HOROWITZ CAN'T INDICT
ANYONE.
LET'S BE CLEAR.
HE CAN'T INDICT ANYONE.
ALL HE CAN DO IS REFER THE CASE
TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
THE SAME DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
THAT SAID PRESIDENT TRUMP DID
NOT COMMIT A CRIME, REFUSED TO
PROSECUTE JIM COMEY.
AT A MINIMUM WE HAVE TO BE
CONSISTENT.
IF BILL BARR WAS RIGHT IN HIS
ANALYSIS OF THE OBSTRUCTION OF
JUSTICE, HE IS NOT ALSO RIGHT
WHEN HE FAILED TO PROSECUTE OR
DECLINED THE PROSECUTE JIM
COMEY?
WE CAN'T LIKE THEM IF THEY GO
AFTER OUR ENEMIES BUT NOT LIKE
THEM IF THEY GO AFTER OUR
FRIENDS.
THAT'S RELATIVISM AND IT'S NOT
A GOOD THING.
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